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#438847 - 06/11/08 04:21 PM Re: Biggest P.O.S EVER !! ?? [Re: laterun]
stlhead Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Congress's defense is they were not provided the truth. The Bush admins attempt at a defense is it was the CIA's fault.
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#438849 - 06/11/08 04:28 PM Re: Biggest P.O.S EVER !! ?? [Re: stlhead]
Sol Duc Offline
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The same info that The Clinton admin had and every other intelligence agency in the world. Hell Sadamm himself was a weapon of mass destruction..good enough for me.
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#438853 - 06/11/08 05:01 PM Re: Biggest P.O.S EVER !! ?? [Re: Sol Duc]
docspud Offline
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Registered: 11/01/06
Posts: 1557
Loc: Silverdale Wa
Last time I checked the whole intel com had access to all teh info. Dont hold those Dem's responsible though because that would not fit the bash bush agenda. Just for the record....everyone saw it and come to the same conclusion and teh defense of I didnt read the report because I was lazy doesnt hold up. He is an idiot but to say it was all him and not teh rest of them is calling the kettle black.
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#438858 - 06/11/08 05:40 PM Re: Biggest P.O.S EVER !! ?? [Re: Sol Duc]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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Registered: 01/31/02
Posts: 4450
Loc: B'ham
Originally Posted By: Sol Duc
The same info that The Clinton admin had and every other intelligence agency in the world.


And they STILL chose not to do what Bush did. For the reasons you see now.

Clearly the intelligence was WRONG... and not just a little. But, then again, it WAS used selectively and dissent was ignored or punished. It didn't get much coverage but Phase II of the bi-partisan Senate report on Iraq intelligence just came out a few days ago and it makes the Bush administration decisions look even worse. http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1812507,00.html This is the report that was delayed for years because of what it would say.

Bush himself is only a small portion of the problem. It is his administration as a whole that is the machine and has worked on many fronts to steer America far from its ideals. Lack of accountability, lies, cronyism, politicization of the justice department, outing spies, using nationalism to scare people, and illegally spying on Americans are just some of the issues that make him a standout POS politician. The fact that he (and most of the Republicans) don't see this and/or have enabled it is my big problem. Are the dems much better? No, but if both parties are going to be giving away money, I'd rather have them giving out handouts to the poor rather than the rich. The days of saying Dems are "tax and spend" while Repubs are "fiscally conservative" has been proven patently false and people should be reminded of it.

And, yes, anyone that approved the war should be looking for a new job regardless of their political party. I, like nearly every other American, didn't have access to the "intelligence" but I could still smell that bullshiat 3000 miles away. One of the saddest parts of 9/11 for me was seeing how quickly some in power sought to use America's mourning and rage to make money and further pre-conceived agendas.

-Kaiser D.

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#438870 - 06/11/08 06:24 PM Re: Biggest P.O.S EVER !! ?? [Re: ]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Everyone's heard how immorality and debauchery led to the fall of the Roman Empire.

Bullsh!t.

Poltical corruption and greed led to the fall of Rome, and if we as citizens continue to allow political corruption and greed to dictate how we vote, it will also lead to the fall of the US Republic.

The biggest threat to our nation is us, and the government we elect.
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I said "baby, what's the goin' price?" She told me to go to hell.

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#438872 - 06/11/08 06:31 PM Re: Biggest P.O.S EVER !! ?? [Re: Dan S.]
Mikespike Offline
MPD

Registered: 01/02/08
Posts: 2544
Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
Originally Posted By: Dan S.

The biggest threat to our nation is us, and the government we elect.


Unfortunately, it looks like we don't actually elect our president any more mad

And because the econony has me so beaten down thanks to the regime, it's time for a segue into lyrics land-

I got patches, on the patches, of my old blue jeans
well they used to be blue, and the used to be new
and they used to be clean

Been lovin' the dirty deeds lately DanS! Nice fish on the other thread too!
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#438884 - 06/11/08 08:28 PM Re: Biggest P.O.S EVER !! ?? [Re: Mikespike]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Thanks, Mike.

Here's another line from that same song that seems to apply these days.

"Feeling like a paper cup, floating down a storm drain.
I got myself a sailing boat, but I can't afford the gasoline."

How f'n broke is a guy who can't afford gasoline for his sailing boat? rofl

Dirty Deeds is a great album/disc. I like to play 'Squealer'..........real loud......when the house is empty.

Keeps the neighbors and Jehova's Witnesses away. grin
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I said "baby, what's the goin' price?" She told me to go to hell.

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#438892 - 06/11/08 09:27 PM Re: Biggest P.O.S EVER !! ?? [Re: Dan S.]
B-RUN STEELY Offline
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Registered: 02/08/00
Posts: 3233
Loc: IDAHO
Funny.. just cranked up " Touch too much "

.. A body like Venus with arms...
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#438938 - 06/12/08 10:32 AM Re: Biggest P.O.S EVER !! ?? [Re: Dan S.]
Mikespike Offline
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Registered: 01/02/08
Posts: 2544
Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
Originally Posted By: Dan S.

Keeps the neighbors and Jehova's Witnesses away. grin


There's nothing like the site of your neighbors running from their house and their ears are bleeding! Hmm, maybe a new form of "questioning" for POS Bushco and friends. wink I'm gonna get Guantanamo on your ass!!!
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#438946 - 06/12/08 10:55 AM Re: Biggest P.O.S EVER !! ?? [Re: Dan S.]
stlhead Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
Originally Posted By: Dan S.
Everyone's heard how immorality and debauchery led to the fall of the Roman Empire.

Bullsh!t.

Poltical corruption and greed led to the fall of Rome, and if we as citizens continue to allow political corruption and greed to dictate how we vote, it will also lead to the fall of the US Republic.

The biggest threat to our nation is us, and the government we elect.


It'd help if some didn't vote because "He's the kind of guy you'd like to have a beer with". I've met a lot of these guy's but I'm not giving them the keys to my truck.
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#438956 - 06/12/08 11:34 AM Re: Biggest P.O.S EVER !! ?? [Re: stlhead]
Mikespike Offline
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Registered: 01/02/08
Posts: 2544
Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
Unfortunately, the guy that is trying to get Bush impeached probbly should have asked someone else to do it for him...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/11/kucinich.impeach.vote/index.html
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#438991 - 06/12/08 01:04 PM Re: Biggest P.O.S EVER !! ?? [Re: Mikespike]
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Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 9013
Loc: everett
Most every polititian has a pandora's box of past life issues.
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#439045 - 06/12/08 06:11 PM Re: Biggest P.O.S EVER !! ?? [Re: Jerry Garcia]
Ikissmykiss Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 03/01/03
Posts: 1244
Loc: Snohomish County
Q: Biggest P.O.S EVER !! ??
A: Yes, without a doubt.

His dismal approval rating (29 percent the last time I saw) is the lowest in American history I believe. Pretty sad when your approval rating dips below that of Nixons.

Even more sad is the fact that since I have been 12 years old all I've had for Presidents is Reagan, two Bush Leaguers, and Clinton. I didn't particularly love Reagan or Bush Sr., but I didn't hate them the way I hate Bush Jr.

I think the major difference between the elder Bush and the one that will thankfully be leaving office here soon is who they surrounded themselves with. Sr. had some level headed dudes in his cabinet helping him run our country.....Jr. had War Hawks like Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz helping him make decisions. Hence our atrocious foreign policy.....

Ike

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#439058 - 06/12/08 09:30 PM Re: Biggest P.O.S EVER !! ?? [Re: ]
eddie Offline
Carcass

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 2380
Loc: Valencia, Negros Oriental, Phi...
Hankster - Members of the House of Representatives are voted on every 2 years. Senators every 6. We (voters) have the power, what do we do with it?
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#439079 - 06/13/08 01:53 AM Re: Biggest P.O.S EVER !! ?? [Re: ]
Roguefshr Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 07/25/05
Posts: 94
Loc: WA
the only thing a politicain ever has to accomplish is getting re-elected, maybe its the system...

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#439128 - 06/13/08 01:29 PM Re: Biggest P.O.S EVER !! ?? [Re: Roguefshr]
stever in everett Offline
Spawner

Registered: 03/17/99
Posts: 774
Loc: Everett, WA USA
Where are all the Bushies now making all sorts of excuses for him? ATTENTION ALL RATS ABANDON SHIP NOW.


Edited by stever in everett (06/13/08 01:32 PM)
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#439140 - 06/13/08 02:52 PM Re: Biggest P.O.S EVER !! ?? [Re: ]
stever in everett Offline
Spawner

Registered: 03/17/99
Posts: 774
Loc: Everett, WA USA
And if McSame gets elected we'll have four more years of Bushco lite.
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#439141 - 06/13/08 02:55 PM Re: Biggest P.O.S EVER !! ?? [Re: ]
Salmo g. Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13458
Obama will have to try harder than is likely humanly possible to achieve Bush's POS status Aunty. I can understand not being too excited about Obama or even opposing him as a candidate. I can't see any objective (such a thing?) analysis concluding him being worse than Bush. Sort of why I'd vote for a monkey before I'd vote for Bush.

Sg

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#439146 - 06/13/08 03:26 PM Re: Biggest P.O.S EVER !! ?? [Re: Salmo g.]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
Hippie

Registered: 01/31/02
Posts: 4450
Loc: B'ham
Yeah, I have to agree with Salmo, Aunty. Your opposition to Obama is approaching a strange level. I can see him not being your guy but I can't see why the high level of animosity? It is practically dripping off of your posts. And it has been from the get-go.

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#439150 - 06/13/08 03:53 PM Re: Biggest P.O.S EVER !! ?? [Re: ]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
You're quoting Hildabeast? rofl

Stop it, Hank. wink
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I said "baby, what's the goin' price?" She told me to go to hell.

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