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#441998 - 07/03/08 03:24 AM Re: Is Obama a crook? [Re: Todd]
topwater Offline
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Registered: 06/28/00
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Originally Posted By: Todd

..and that's no deception. FoxNews actually established in federal court that they are under no obligation to tell the truth in their broadcasts, and that lying on purpose is still protected under their right to free speech and the freedom of the press.

Fish on...

Todd


you liar, Fox news is the bestest news source. they tell the truth and make show liberals as they really are, with their dark evil souls...

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#442012 - 07/03/08 11:00 AM Re: Is Obama a crook? [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: blue water pro


(NOTE TO MIKESPIKE: Newly elected senators do not run for pres so that they have a chance to remove the crap from their shoes, establish decent connections & realize how rubbing elbows with the wrong people even if they are the major employer of their state can be bad.)



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McCain's actions are inexcusable. Re-read what the article says. McCain participated in the solicitation of money and favors for political gain, then he and the others attempted to scuttle the investigation into his buddy Keating's illegal activities. AGAIN, McCAIN ATTEMPTED TO SUBVERT THE LEGAL PROCESS OF THIS COUNTRY FOR HIS FRIEND, CHARLES KEATING, WHO IS A CONVICTED FELON DUE TO THIS MATTER!!!

McCain and the others were censured for their actions - now he's cheating on his taxes. It's pretty clear that he is not an ethical person and does not have the best interest of the "common person" in mind.

xoxo, Mike

PS Isn't Ron Paul the African-American transvestite celebrity?
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#442015 - 07/03/08 11:10 AM Re: Is Obama a crook? [Re: topwater]
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Registered: 03/17/99
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Back on the S and L bail out. Two of the persons involved were the Bush brothers, the former governor of Florida and Neil.
He later made a killing buying back the foreclosed properties at pennies on the dollar from the U.S. goverment and resold them.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE0D81E3BF937A25753C1A966958260


Jeb Bush's dealings in Miami are not related to those of his brother Neil, who was a director of the Silverado Banking, Savings and Loan Association in Denver. Neil Bush, who is 35, defended himself last month in Denver on civil charges by the Government that he acted improperly in his role as a director of Silverado, which failed in 1988 after making questionable loans, including some to Neil Bush's business associates.


Edited by stever in everett (07/03/08 11:15 AM)
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#442019 - 07/03/08 11:34 AM Re: Is Obama a crook? [Re: stever in everett]
Todd Offline
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Don't forget that McCain cheated on his first wife, and left her for his 20 years younger staffer, after his wife was in a disfiguring car accident...and then called his new wife a kunt in front of a bunch of people.

Cheats on taxes, cheats on wife, subverts the law for his own financial gain...seems like a perfect example of the type of folks that the "law and order" party, the "Christian Party", the "family values party" likes to put up...who the hell ran the propoganda campaign that got all of those tags put on the GOP?

It's too bad all the rest of the Republicans didn't join Andy in voting for Ron Paul...he'd have won by a landslide.

Fish on...

Todd
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#442028 - 07/03/08 12:07 PM Re: Is Obama a crook? [Re: Todd]
Todd Offline
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Oh...and don't forget McLame's staunch support of veterans.

Not.

Every single year over the past five years he has voted against VA benefits, and programs for taking care of veterans once they get home.

Apparently "supporting our troops" is just as hollow a callout with McLame as it is with the current Administration...what they really mean is "support our contractors" with money, but screw the troops.

Fish on...

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#442048 - 07/03/08 01:47 PM Re: Is Obama a crook? [Re: Todd]
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Registered: 09/07/05
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Wow - what a non-story. Most real estate investors do not pay their real estate taxes on time so this is as 'hot' a news story as Obama and his wife bumping fists or Rachel Ray's scarf in the Dunkin donuts ad. What a load of non-issue crap. As my Dad put it many years ago: "It's a loan I don't have to fill out out a loan app for and it doesn't show up on my credit report."
The name of the game in investing is 'capital retention'. Obviously, anyone who thinks somebody not paying their real estate taxes on time is worth mentioning either doesn't know anything about the subject or is stirring the pot for dregs on the bottom.
This got my morning off to a good laugh.
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#442098 - 07/03/08 03:43 PM Re: Is Obama a crook? [Re: Chuck E]
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My point was that McCain engaged in illegal activity and got caught. Not paying your income tax is also "capital retention", but it's still illegal. Laugh all you want, McCain is demonstrating a clear behavioral pattern of disregarding the law. beathead
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#442100 - 07/03/08 03:47 PM Re: Is Obama a crook? [Re: ]
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Stam, keep your eyes closed and head buried in the dirt, maybe Islam will just go away..by the way I believe an atheist WOULD make a good leader.
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#442108 - 07/03/08 04:03 PM Re: Is Obama a crook? [Re: Todd]
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Told you before, I dont watch Fux News nor do i listen to talk radio...so I guess that makes anyone who arrives at their own conclusions through independent thought
stupid and should be punished with pain? Who made you the everlasting and final authority over everything political? Guess the very same one who made you the foremost authority on salmon habitat, life cycle, harvest methods, recovery efforts,
fishing techniques...YOURSELF! Well , I must be stupid then cause I think you are
nothing more than a self serving egotistcal blowhard, who says what he wants as if it were the divine truth, then expecting everyone to bow down to the man who knows everything. moonEver thought of running for office yourself? If the mods think this is a personal attack, then so be it, not any more personal than you telling me I'm stupid for my beliefs, I just used more words to describe you than you used to describe me. moon
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#442114 - 07/03/08 04:37 PM Re: Is Obama a crook? [Re: nookie dreamin']
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If you didn't hear it from Hannity or Rush, then where did you hear the utterly made up story about Obama being a Muslim? The 700 Club? A mass e-mail? A friend at work? Did you make it up yourself?

Fish on...

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#442121 - 07/03/08 04:49 PM Re: Is Obama a crook? [Re: Todd]
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He was born into a muslim family raised a muslim and only recenttly"converted" to christianity. Hmmm last high profile ex muslim, Salmon Rushdie, had to go into hiding, and has a price on his head. Why does'nt Obama for abandoning the "One True Faith"???? Is it really a made up story? I think not.. Hmmm there I go thinking again, without consulting with Hannity or that"right wing redneck lying oxycontin eater" Rush.
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#442142 - 07/03/08 06:01 PM Re: Is Obama a crook? [Re: nookie dreamin']
Dante Offline
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Loc: Redmond
Todd you caught a big one! Ease up on the line, he might just snap off wink

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#442170 - 07/03/08 09:33 PM Re: Is Obama a crook? [Re: Dante]
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Registered: 10/12/01
Posts: 2453
Loc: Area 51
Originally Posted By: Dante
Todd you caught a big one! Ease up on the line, he might just snap off wink


No worry....that fish is gut hooked. Todd's gonna need some pliers and crowbar to get that thing off. beathead

Picture.......line screaming....... upside down...then belly up.....cut line...he's a biter.....lives to get caught another day. thumbs
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#442173 - 07/03/08 10:00 PM Re: Is Obama a crook? [Re: John Lee Hookum]
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Registered: 03/07/00
Posts: 2955
Loc: Lynnwood, WA
Nookie my friend... you seem like an otherwise reasonable, intelligent guy. So tell me... WHAT exactly turns reasonable, intelligent people into hate-mongerin' right-wing robots? I can't for the life of me figure it out?

The reason we all accuse you of being a talk-radio parrot is because all of these political philosophies you 'supposedly' arrived at through independent thought... are SO similar to the drivel spewed forth by the right-wing puppet masters... that to think ANYTHING else would just be ridiculous!

Prove us wrong man. Show us that you ain't just another brain-dead ditto-head. You can do it! thumbs


Edited by 4Salt (07/03/08 10:01 PM)
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#442213 - 07/04/08 09:17 AM Re: Is Obama a crook? [Re: ]
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BWP-

Thanks for agreeing to disagree on McCain in a civil manner. I really don't like either of the candidates and am leaning towards Dogfish's suggestion of voting for Ron Paul. If only that would make a difference.

Happy trails, Mike
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#442282 - 07/04/08 09:51 PM Re: Is Obama a crook? [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
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I think McCan't has plenty of avenues of weakness...chief among them that he's just an old hasbeen version of G-Dubya, with actual combat experience. Problem is, he's mostly crazy from his combat experience, and just like our veterans now, he never gets any treatment for it.

The fact that there are actual real people who believe the full on lie campaign, that Obama is a Muslim, that he attended a madrassas, all that crap...it just goes to show how stupid some Americans are.

Yes, nookie, I'm talking to you.

There is no actual real evidence whatsoever, and if you managed to not only find a different lie machine to tell you that crap, other than FuxNoos or Rush, then it only goes to show how deep not only the Republican LIe Machine is, but how deeply the stupidity of its followers runs.

I'll make a nice black and white, bright line delineation...the kind of judgmental "with us or against us!" crap that Republicans really like...if you really believe that Obama is a Muslim and attended a madrassas, then you are dumber than $hit.

Period.

Fish on...

Todd
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#442311 - 07/05/08 02:25 PM Re: Is Obama a crook? [Re: Todd]
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Gee Todd, don't you have any strongly held opinions? Kinda' mellowing in your impending middle age, eh?

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#442312 - 07/05/08 02:35 PM Re: Is Obama a crook? [Re: Salmo g.]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
You know me, Sg...I'm less mellow in person smile

I just received a mass e-mail telling me that Obama eats white Christian children with his Indian fry bread. Seems like a pretty reliable source.

I'm not voting for anyone who would do that.

Fish on...

Todd
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#442314 - 07/05/08 02:37 PM Re: Is Obama a crook? [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
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Oh, Hank...I'm holding back some, believe me...the actual words I'd use talking to someone who actually believes that stuff would get modded away pretty fast...

Fish on...

Todd
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#442319 - 07/05/08 04:07 PM Re: Is Obama a crook? [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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It just goes to show what little respect some people have for America or the democratic political process...they know they can't win on the facts, so they make chit up...and then people who know damn well it's a bunch of crap go out and spread the lies anyway...they're the least American of the bunch.

Fish on...

Todd
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