Shoot, Im out of popcorn.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334

Grape Kool aid.

Mf

wrong network. I guess if none of your relatives died at the hands of Jim Jones, its easy to crack jokes about the drink. Maybe you could tell me whats so funny about 900 people being poisioned to death.

The article does not prove that the yellow cake intelligence was right or wrong. It also does not state WHERE the yellow cake removed from IRAQ
was purchased. It doesn't eliminate Niger as the source.

I think 913 people dying from drinking Kool-Aid with cyanide in it is just as funny as the 28%'er's who have clearly drunk something like it, and suffer from a blinding support of whatever BushCorp tells them...

...which is "not funny at all"...and, in fact, is kinda sad, and as Stam pointed out, has resulted in the death of tens of thousands more than the original 913 Kool-Aid drinkers, the biggest difference being that the current crop of Kool-Aid drinkers drinks it up, but others are the ones who die for it.

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Todd

This is the same type of "story" as finding the "WMD's" a few years ago that actually turned out to be leftovers of the gas we gave Saddam, the stuff he used on the Kurds.

With ten seconds worth of retrospection, stories like this make it even more clear that the run up to the war was cooked in a bucket somewhere in the bowels of the White House.

No popcorn necessary, but the Kool-Aid stand at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is still doing a brisk business.

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Todd

The thing about Congress' DIS-approval rating is that even with a democratic majority, the republicans are holding everything up so that nothing can get done...such is the price of requiring bi-partisanship in Congress when you have a decidely partisan environment thatnks to BushCorp.

BushCorp's DIS-approval ratings, however, are entirely his own.

You can lay them both at the feet of the Republicans...but that will cease to be a problem after November when there will be enough Democrats to steamroll the obstructionists.

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Todd

KK, I probably should not have left out that quote. Its a valid point of reference regarding the Joe Wilson report. I thought the article was interesting only, in regards to all the shouting about no WMD being found in in Iraq. Furthermore, the media was reporting that Sadam had destroyed his supplies after the first gulf war. Obviously a discovery date of the YC would also be important to the WMD arguement. I dont like being fooled anymore than anyone else. But, I wouldnt oppose evidence that would vindicate a president, any president. I have plenty of other reasons to dislike Bush.

My main point about the source of the yellow cake sent to Canada, was that the article itself, did not report where the YC was purchased. Although they estimate the yellow cake had been in the drums since 91, the article doesnt prove the YC was purchased in Fresh containers. IE I have a gallon of oil in my garage, that I bought a year ago. It looks brand new.

If the YC had been purchased from Niger, it would allow for the possibility of more YC being sought.

This not about defending Bush. Nor am I one of the 28%.

I'm in agreement with KK on this one..."let's drill in ANWR" is not a valid 'energy policy', and think the electorate is fully aware of Cheney's secret energy task force meetings that immediately preceded the current energy crisis, as they are aware of "Kenny Boy" Lay's energy scandal, and his friendship with BushCorp...the dems have nothing to worry about so far as energy policy goes, as the Repubs have failed on it so miserably the past seven years that anything will be better.

There's also no reason to all of a sudden foster a bipartisan environment when those who made it so partisan (thanks to the "uniter not a divider", aka "the decider") will be out on their asses in a few months and won't be able to continuing screwing the public for the benefit of their corporate masters and rapidly deteriorating political party.

It's a rough time to be a Republican...actually, it's been rough for a while, since the only thing "republican" about the current crop of Republicans is their name, and the "R" after their titles...none of their policies, except the pandering to the religious radical right, have anything "conservative" or "republican" about 'em.

Until the republicans in the electorate make them change back into actual republicans, they will be in serious trouble.

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Todd

KK, I will take your word for it. I lack the historical knowledge of the IAEA and what they did with the yellow cake or when it was discovered. It appears I drew conclusions of a wmd find, without historical knowledge.
I shouldnt do that.

thanks.

Both parties do it, but you have to admit that "the smoking gun might be in the form of a mushroom cloud" is pretty tough to beat...

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Todd

He might have won, if he hadnt written a couple checks at the house bank and then turned around and run for president in 96. He did poorly.

Im probably going to get flamed, but more is expected of R. Although it was a contributing factor in the Tidal wave of 94. Dems seem to forgive that stuff. There is no better example than Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd. Barney Frank and Steni Hoyer.

Really? I don't recall much furor from the RWWJ's over this loooonnnggg list of Republican criminals...

http://washparkprophet.blogspot.com/2005/11/republican-criminals.html

That list, except for Scooter, doesn't include the list of criminals that either are or have been on the current President's payroll, like Cheney, Rumsfeld, and others...

I don't see the Republican voters holding the criminals amongst them to any standard whatsoever, much less a higher one than anyone else...

Besides touting themselves as the party of "Law and Order", not to mention feeling like they have a stranglehold on "God", the Republicans...by a very long length...have had more divorces, been convicted of more sex crimes, have committed adultery almost out of hand, and continue to get a free pass from their "base"...why?

Because the "means justify the ends"...even when there is no "ends" that ever comes up...Republican voters will vote for a two-timing adulterer who divorced his wife after she was in a disfiguring car wreck, and then married the younger "lady" he was cheating on his wife with, before they'd ever say "boo" about it.

If Republican voters held their candidates to any standards at all, they'd hardly ever vote for any of 'em...and we all know that most of them just check to see if the "R" is next to their name on the ballot before voting, and that's about all they care about.

And that's just keeping it to personal and ethical problems, which both parties have issues with, being human beings and all...if you were to limit the malfeasance just to abuses of power, then the Republicans would run away with it...and it wouldn't even be close.

Again, though, so long as it's an abuse of power in furtherance of conservative "ideals", i.e., "fukk 'em all and show me the money", then they just get a free pass.

Both parties, and all the independents, have their problems with ethical and legal concerns...but to even for one minute try to favorably compare the numbers of criminal repubs with the criminal dems is an exercise that differs by orders of magnitude.

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Todd

Ya Todd, democrats alway study the issue and the people. Especially union members. I use to get letters from the teamster about boycotting Wells Fargo and my union insurance wouldnt pay for my glasses if I went to walmart. No pressure at all.

I seem to remember a lot of R being voted out and unfortunately taking some innocent people with them. We arent likely to hold impromptu elections to suit the few.

You bitch about people who havent been convicted of anything in court. People that are appointed, not elected.
As far as Im concerned, if your party doesnt impeach and convict, then they dont have the stomach or the evidence. More politicians going to jail would be a good thing. BTW when was the last time you took on a crooked democrat? Weve got one in seattle that doesnt think much of the right to privacy. Why not run against Jimmy?

Only one party runs on morality, family values, and political crutches like prayer in school, though.

So one is a group of dirtbags, and the other is a group of hypocrite dirtbags. Is one worse than the other? Not really, but it is a little funnier......if you can call it that.

+1 Dan

Canada produces a lot of oil. Canada now has all that yellow cake. How long until we invade Canada?

We should invade ourselves and see if we can "fix" things here...

Canada also has lots of back bacon!

We've got oil, nuclear bombs, biological weapons, chemical weapons, ongoing programs to continue to develop more and more deadly ways to kill people, and an armed forces that can carry those WMD's all over the world and drop into the chimmneys of those who we hate, which is most everybody who's not in a country full of other white people.

Not only do we have all those WMD's and their delivery systems, not to mention valuable natural resources, we've shown an alarming tendency to ignore intelligence gathering, or at least using intelligence gathered, diplomacy, or even a lot of common sense.

Under the new doctrine of "Pre-emption", that would make us a number one target...for us.

Probably even a better target than Iraq...we actually do want to be liberated.

Let's run that one up the flagpole in D.C..

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Todd