#443739 - 07/14/08 11:09 PM
Re: This isnt good, Fannie/Freddie are imploding..
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Thats right !!! Don't you owe us a picture of you in a Tux Stam ?? I for one would be proud to see it.
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#443763 - 07/15/08 12:31 AM
Re: This isnt good, Fannie/Freddie are imploding..
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A lovely bride and a bridsmaid with an attitude. I wish i had made it there - looks like fun.
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#443784 - 07/15/08 09:47 AM
Re: This isnt good, Fannie/Freddie are imploding..
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You gotta love someone that dumb....thanks for being a good sport b_j  yeah, jim I felt pretty damn bad yesterday, even today I was a little ragged, then I read just a couple of b_j's posts and realized that I just had a hangover, terminal stupidity is well.....terminal, a hangover will go away.  Thanks b_j again for reminding me how good I have it, America is a wonderful place..you should learn to appreciate it.  stam I had alway's taken you for a "non dancer" but you cranked it out for hours on end. Good job DAD, we had a blast!
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#443796 - 07/15/08 11:53 AM
Re: This isnt good, Fannie/Freddie are imploding..
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Thsi tread took a while to read through but it is pretty impressive how this became McCains problem thruogh Gramm. Have any of you ever heard of Jim Johnson? Former CEO of Fannie Mae who single handed managed to get these "exemptions" past that you all credit Gramm for. He was head of the team looking for Obama's VP until last week. Found out about his "friendly" rates to others and resiegned. He was slated to become a top Obama cabinate member until last week. Amazing how that dirty SOB McCain, how dare he, has Gramm in his advisors but Obama gets a pass for Johnson.
Take the liberal blinders off because this problem is much deeper than Gramm or Johnson and runs deep in both compaigns. Equal op blame to go around wether you like it or not.
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#443802 - 07/15/08 12:49 PM
Re: This isnt good, Fannie/Freddie are imploding..
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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 See? A vote for Ron Paul ISN'T a wasted vote........it's the ONLY responsible vote. But you "party first, country second" types can spend the next 4 months trying to justify your votes for the other two goats. Have fun, and sleep well.
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#443810 - 07/15/08 01:48 PM
Re: This isnt good, Fannie/Freddie are imploding..
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As my one and only designated driver, the Rev. had to cut out of there by 9:00. I heard it only picked up from there! At least I brought enough beer to share with others.   Good party, Stam! Can't wait until the next one is married!
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#443830 - 07/15/08 03:22 PM
Re: This isnt good, Fannie/Freddie are imploding...
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Before you get too caught up in the Gramm thing, balance your information with these links too and tell me if there aren't more people to share the blame.
Oh no, I've never blamed it solely on Gramm, I've said he spearheaded legislation. No one person is smart enough to pull it all off by themself. To put a nice bow on it, and not a bow-tie for Stam's tux, we are talking about unethical, silver spoon people, gutting regulations that protect John Q. Taxpayer. It does not know party lines either, so all the "poor" republicans and democrats of this country will have to foot the bill via government bail-outs. PS I hope your friends did okay up in Paradise/Magalia - it will be hold your breath time all summer up this way.
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#443835 - 07/15/08 03:48 PM
Re: This isnt good, Fannie/Freddie are imploding..
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As my one and only designated driver, the Rev. had to cut out of there by 9:00. I heard it only picked up from there! At least I brought enough beer to share with others. Good party, Stam! Can't wait until the next one is married! Sorry you had ta cut out early--but then it allowed the rest of us to cut loose without the Rev. watching over us. Ya and that beer, was DAMN GOOD---all of it!
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#443853 - 07/15/08 06:01 PM
Re: This isnt good, Fannie/Freddie are imploding..
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Back on topic.
Kinda makes me understand how the average consumer got so caught up in this mess.
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#443966 - 07/16/08 01:47 PM
Re: This isnt good, Fannie/Freddie are imploding..
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MPD
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Back on topic.
Kinda makes me understand how the average consumer got so caught up in this mess.
I was wondering if Stam's daughter's wedding made it into this thread because it was either deregulated or a financial catastrophe!
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#443970 - 07/16/08 01:59 PM
Re: This isnt good, Fannie/Freddie are imploding..
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Deregulated------fo sure!
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#444014 - 07/16/08 06:25 PM
Re: This isnt good, Fannie/Freddie are imploding..
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I wish someone would "deregulate" development engineering. already been done - down here we call it "San Jose" or "Los Angeles" 
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#444076 - 07/17/08 10:12 AM
Re: This isnt good, Fannie/Freddie are imploding...
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[quote=Hankster]
PS I hope your friends did okay up in Paradise/Magalia - it will be hold your breath time all summer up this way. All friends and their homes are fine. An interesting sidenote is one of them told me the helicopters that were dropping the buckets of water were also scooping up trout and dropping them as well. She told me they ate a couple. Way to turn this into a thread about fish Hankster! I think the helicopters were pulling water from Lake Oroville - that would mean they scooped up the coho's that they've been planting for the last few years. I'd love to catch an ocean going coho for the size as the lake ones fight like a steelhead but rarely get over 4-5lbs. Of course, the water is so low in the lake now that it's almost impossible to launch a boat anymore.
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#445378 - 07/24/08 11:46 PM
Re: This isnt good, Fannie/Freddie are imploding...
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River Nutrients
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Back on topic.
Kinda makes me understand how the average consumer got so caught up in this mess.
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#448889 - 08/20/08 10:26 AM
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MPD
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Because Phil is a jaca##, that's why.......................... I see goot_gay is back after his stint as a male prostitute...................at least he had a job. The US economy is in for some very serious problems. I figured about 8 months ago the Dow would see 11 k before 14, and today I saw I was correct. I now figure it will see 9 k before 12 k, and can't see any reason to think otherwise. De regulation is a wingnut mantra, and so I wouldn't expect anything else from boot_gay, even though anyone with half a brain would know what happens with unregulated markets, especially those having anything to do with banks, or insurance companies. Prepare to bail these guys out, and just like the other bailouts , it'll be done on borrowed money. Save America, hang a Republican from your nearest lampost, and beat them with your shoe. I'm resurrecting this thread today because I found out that not only did Phil Gramm's handywork screw the home mortgage business, it also created a loophole for the commodities trading market. The stock market was regulated after the 1929 crash to prevent speculative trading and commodities were to be outside the influence of speculation. Thanks to Phil and his cronies, commodities futures can now be bought and sold by traditionally "non-commercial" entities such as hedge funds and banks. These groups (and others, presumably) are the driving force behind the surge in oil prices. The American people have been totally fukked by Gramm and his corporate overseers. Get a rope!  
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Stam looked suprisingly comfortable in the tux!
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