#447978 - 08/12/08 03:07 PM
Re: Hiker killed by hunter
[Re: jackiepoo]
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Poodle Smolt
Registered: 05/03/01
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Loc: McCleary, WA
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He has not been sentenced yet. He deserves the right to go before a judge. 9 months is his possible penalty.
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#447990 - 08/12/08 03:59 PM
Re: Hiker killed by hunter
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Returning Adult
Registered: 04/02/01
Posts: 474
Loc: University Place Washington
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I agree with sea strike and worded my entry poorly, he definitely deserves and is allotted a due process procedure.
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#448109 - 08/13/08 10:32 AM
Re: Hiker killed by hunter
[Re: jackiepoo]
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 11/01/06
Posts: 1557
Loc: Silverdale Wa
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They need to send the poor kid to councelling not juvi. I understand they have to do something but do you think putting the kid on trial is the right thing? He screwed up as bad as anyone can and will have to live with it for the rest of his life. Be scarred for life and dream about it every night. Now lets make him a felon and scar him some more. The media will be all over it. Shiat, lets put him on the front page as the poster child for anti-hunting groups. That will be justice. While we are at it, we could draw and quarter him too. This pros attorn needs more discreation. Now they are also trying to put through a law that states no one under age can hunt alone. Use a terrible situation for a knee jerk reaction to take one more right away from us. If our kids cant go out and hunt when they are young they never will. This happens with adults occationally as well......Lets just ban hunting all together. We can name it after the women and peta will put a statue of her and pray to it every season on the day it happened. This could only happen in Wa.......well maybe Ca too.
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#448131 - 08/13/08 02:13 PM
Re: Hiker killed by hunter
[Re: docspud]
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Poodle Smolt
Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10878
Loc: McCleary, WA
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I am concerned with any give aways in right, and they are attacking kid's rights to hunt (rep in Seattle wants stricter definition of hunting age that what Blake is proposing), who do not have a voice. Anyway, Brian Blake understands our concerns and is only proposing to change it back to what it had been in the past.
Brian attends our annual Ducks Unlimited event, and he attends regular meetings on behalf on hunters in the Grays Harbor area. I know this because I am at those meetings as well.
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#448190 - 08/13/08 11:09 PM
Re: Hiker killed by hunter
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Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah
Registered: 08/23/06
Posts: 6211
Loc: zipper
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As far as judging the kid give it a rest… accidental shootings happen even by people that live by and with the gun
I can rest tonight knowing that most of us are very careful. As far as giving it a rest, he shot her in the head while she was stopped on a trail. You would think that in July while walking on a trail that no one would be stupid enough to hunt that close, or let a kid have a gun with no supervision. I wonder where his parents were?
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#448194 - 08/13/08 11:49 PM
Re: Hiker killed by hunter
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 01/05/08
Posts: 124
Loc: Puyallup, WA
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First degree manslaughter. Estimated time in juvy jail is 9 months.
Not much for killing a person. IMO
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#448223 - 08/14/08 09:59 AM
Re: Hiker killed by hunter
[Re: TheHunt]
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Smolt
Registered: 06/20/08
Posts: 90
Loc: poulsbo, wa
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Did you see it made the MSN home page yesterday. Makes me think about my son getting his license for the first time this year. Perhaps he will learn from this tragedy, I know i will remind him everytime he thinks about going hunting.
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#448263 - 08/14/08 01:50 PM
Re: Hiker killed by hunter
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 06/18/03
Posts: 1041
Loc: north sound
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You would think that in July while walking on a trail that no one would be stupid enough to hunt that close, or let a kid have a gun with no supervision. I wonder where his parents were? Not just on a trail, but on one of the most popular hiking trails in the county, on a summer weekend.
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#448286 - 08/14/08 04:56 PM
Re: Hiker killed by hunter
[Re: cupo]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 08/12/05
Posts: 207
Loc: The Boardwalk, on the way to S...
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IMO, this proposal to restrict the age (again) is total over-reaction. Plenty of adults have made the same tragic mistake and are just as susceptible to "buck fever" as this kid.
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#448324 - 08/14/08 10:48 PM
Re: Hiker killed by hunter
[Re: TheHunt]
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I'm not short, I'm 'fun size'
Registered: 12/25/07
Posts: 1492
Loc: Mulletville
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First degree manslaughter. Estimated time in juvy jail is 9 months.
Not much for killing a person. IMO Your opinion is fuked up! Here is a young man who made a tragic mistake. Does anyone really think putting this kid away is going to help him? That kid and the victims family will be impacted forever. Does the victims family feel that the kid should be locked up? If they do, they are more screwed up than The Hunt. That kid needs counseling, he needs guidence and love. He is not going to find the help he needs in a juvenile institution. If anyone should be punished, maybe it should be his mentors who taught the ethics of hunting to that kid. I have a 13 year old who is going in to his second season. He carried BB guns to show me that he could properly handle a firearm. I have taught him that you never point a firearm at something unless you plan to kill it. And you never point a firearm at something before you have made positive identification. There are proper ways to handle a firearm and be a ethical hunter. It is up to all of us who have been out there for years to teach! This was a tragic mistake, but condeming that young man will only create more problems for him.
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#448336 - 08/15/08 12:40 AM
Re: Hiker killed by hunter
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Poodle Smolt
Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10878
Loc: McCleary, WA
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It was drizzling at the time, so visibility was somewhat limited. It was not a sunny day. She was putting away her bright blue coat into her back pack. No mention was made to her other garments. Easy to armchair quarter back it. The media has not provided all of the facts, only portions of it. Were her garments under the blue jacket black or brown? Don't know, but the media doesn't provide that data.
Ever not hit exactly where you intended to shoot? I have, in the past, but now I usually hit within an inch of my intended impact zone. In my early years hunting, I have been as far as 12 inches off on a moving animal. 26 big game animals later I am usually spot on, moving or not. I don't think the teenager was trying for a head shot at 120 yards with limited visability. Reality check.
I made Hunter pass up a 32 yard shot on a 350+ bear this year because it wasn't right. Log was in the way for a clean shot at vitals. Hunter was sitting in a chair, rifle resting on a bipod. I wish I had been there coaching this boy. I wish someone else had been coaching this boy other than his 16 year old brother.
It still pisses me off that one accident in 25 years (non-hunting victim) causes a rewrite of any law. Consider how many hikers and mountain climbers have died in the past two years in Washington to the number of hunters. 10 to 1, or better. You don't see people clammoring for any laws regarding hikers and mountain climbers be changed. Ass hattery at its finest. How many teens die each year due to drunk driving in this state? I have contempt for most politicians, but there are a few good ones, like Brian. (Sh!t, come to think of it, I'm a politician)
If I had my way, people who lived in cities with more than 15,000 would need a permit to leave the city.
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#448466 - 08/16/08 12:35 AM
Re: Hiker killed by hunter
[Re: Dogfish]
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Spawner
Registered: 01/15/01
Posts: 759
Loc: Port Angeles, WA
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If I had my way, people who lived in cities with more than 15,000 would need a permit to leave the city.
Amen. As fast as that legislation hit the news with all those statistics, it seems like it was written a while ago and the politician has been waiting for the "right" time to ram it through... Unfortunate for all involved.
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#448604 - 08/18/08 02:01 AM
Re: Hiker killed by hunter
[Re: elkrun]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
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Population of Port Angeles, WA = 18,000+ Population of Aberdeen, WA = 16,000+ I think some people are going to think your idea is bullsh!t, Andy.
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#448614 - 08/18/08 10:18 AM
Re: Hiker killed by hunter
[Re: Dan S.]
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Poodle Smolt
Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10878
Loc: McCleary, WA
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More room for me in the woods!
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#448649 - 08/18/08 02:52 PM
Re: Hiker killed by hunter
[Re: elkrun]
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Poodle Smolt
Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10878
Loc: McCleary, WA
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Okay. McCleary has 1,555.
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