This talk won't matter much...for several reasons...

1. Outside of the PNW, people don't give a rat's ass about environmental issues in the PNW. They don't care about the Pebble Mine, they don't care about fishing, and the only salmon they care about are the ones that end up on their plate when out to eat at restaurants...and they're happy with farmed Atlantic Salmon from Argentina.

2. Within the PNW, right wingers, even so-called "outdoorsmen", don't seem to mind voting over and over again for the very politicos that are owned, part and parcel, by the industries that seek to destroy their outdoorsy way of life.

It baffles me why they continue to do this...I mean, they know damn well they're doing it, and they do it anyway. They even go with the "Sportsmen for Bush!" bumper stickers and the like...and frankly, you can't get much more retarded than that.

Yeah, they're pro gun rights...but no one, and I mean NO ONE is looking to take away anyone's hunting rifles or shotguns...NO ONE...no matter what those lying sacks in the NRA tell you. There are no politicians running for any office of any consequence who have any interest whatsoever in doing that.

None.

What good is the right to carry an assault rifle into the taco shop on the corner going to do a "sportsman" when there's no wild areas, or game left to shoot?

None at all...that's what...but they still do it, and they know exactly what they're doing, and they do it anyway.

Now, if you want to impose your fundamentalist beliefs on the other 75% of the population who wants you to STFU, then by all means vote for them. If you support what BushCorp has been doing to our country and the world for the past seven years, then by all means, vote for McCain.

There are a host of reasons to support McCain, even if they are mainly a little whacked, IMHO.

That being said...anyone who claims they are voting Republican in order to improve their access to and enjoyment of hunting and fishing is either really, really stupid, or just has their head stuck so far in the sand all you can see is their ballet slippers.

Fish on...

Todd

Yeah I didn't understand that one either Parker.

Pat Robertson's been doing the happy dance all morning.

Slade Gorton came from a Commercial Fishing background, too.

...and if those two endorsements don't make every sane person, or outdoorsman, want to run like hell from Palin, then nothing ever will.

Between Robertson the nutcase and Slade, the anti- everything outdoors except his commercial fishing family and the Mariners, this ought to wrap up all the dingbats and Washington to get on board.

Fish on...

Todd

Todd,

I'm still voting for Ron Paul, just in case you thought I'd jumped ship.

I'd have to agree with you on the fundementalist BS that the right wing spews, the homophobes (hypocritical homophobes at that) that want to limit people's rights to love who they want to, and the whole abortion issue in trying to tell a woman what she can do with her body, etc. That really turns me off of the ultra right wingers. The one thing you usually can depend upon a GOP'er to do is to unleash the full might and fury of our armed forces if we perceive a threat, sometimes correct (Grenada, Panama, Iraq #1) and other times not (Iraq #2).

On the flip side the turn that the democratic party has taken over the years really worries me as well. While I do like the general commitment to the environment, I think that there are many who have taken it a bit too far. 20 months to get a building permit is ridiculous, but getting set up for public is a breeze? Why on earth is is so hard to build something and contribute to society, yet so easy top suck off of the public teet? (My personal experience with this state.) They also pick and choose which rights they like to defend, kind of like the cafeteria right wing christians who don't buy into the whole "sodomy is sin" deal. Dems also have a general consensus towards big government, just look at our state.

Mr. Manbearpig himself is an absolute joke, super cereal, and those who follow with him are the same. The whole political correctness movement, in my opinion, comes from the left, and it is so bad that if you disagree with Obama you run the risk of being called a racist. There are examples of that here.

I am also concerned on their weak stance on using the military might of the US, like when Wild Bill sent some cruise missiles to some godforsaken territory instead of getting some troops on the grounds to kill Osama Bin Laden. He really could have saved us a lot of trouble, and headed off Iraq #2 had he done that.

For me no single party is 100% correct on all of the issues, so I guess it comes down to a choice between which rights are most important to me, as both sides are likely to trample on something near and dear to me.

We also do agree on the fact that GW is the true life version of Howdy Doody, and the puppet masters are his buddies in big industry.

Have a great weekend!

Good post, Andy...not much to argue with there.

Fish on...

Todd

Who else wants a hug, besides Todd?


Mf

Think he'll dump his wife* for her?

Fish on...

Todd

*like he already did before

There....fixed that typo for you.....

Mf

Well John?





Mf

I dobut it. Plain isn't worth $500,000,000.00 like Cindy McCain is plus she has a down syndrom baby. McCain left his first wife because she had been disfigured in an auto accident, I dobut he would like to have a down syndrom child.

Oh "HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOHN MCCAIN"


He is 72, yes seventy-two years old today. Do they still let him drive?

He has had 4 boughts with cancer.
He would be the oldest first-time elected president.
He's damn near dead.

Yet....

He's often complained that Obama is too young, and has NO experience.

Yet....

His VP is YOUNGER than Obama, and has only been a Governator for 1.5 years. Yeah, she'd be GREAT for this country when the old man dies off during his term. Just great.

How fitting he shares a birthday with Michael Jackson - two weird white dudes with housing issues!!!

So because she is young and reasonably attractive, she isn't suited for the job? Just good for pumping?

Interesting ... I hate politics and usually stay out of these ... I deal with enough on the fishing end to last about 20 normal lifetimes

A client early this summer predicted this would happen. Made sense for a bit ... but oh just wait until the scandal stuff that is brewing here hits the mass media market ... I was surprised with the choice ... figured the "fire-my-ex-brother-in-law or I'll-fire-you" drama would bury her as a choice.

Guess I know nothing about politics, I'll keep it that way!

I hear you Bob. I was the same way until the Liberals took over congress, and fuel prices more than doubled...

And the rest is history.

Mf

If you don't like MCCAIN fine...but to say something so un true about this mans character makes you look like one of those "angry" liberals!! The MCCAINS adopted this deformed child and gave her a happy home.

Bridget McCain, who the couple adopted from Bangladesh in 1993. Cindy McCain met Bridget, who was born with a cleft palate, on a trip to Mother Theresa's orphanage. Though reticent to discuss his family life, Senator McCain has said about Bridget, "She has enriched our lives. She's a wonderful child, a complete part of our family, and we love her."

I agree...there's plenty of confirmed stories showing McSame's "character"...or more to the point, lack thereof.

Most notably, cheating on his wife with a much younger, and much richer woman...whom he eventually left his wife for and married.

That's some good ol' fashioned right wing "family values" for ya, right there.

Perhaps in a bid to let his ex-wife know that he's not just a total dick to her, he has a habit of calling his current wife a kunt, especially in front of people.

Now that's what I call a gentleman.

Sol Duc's right...let's stick to the truth about McSame's character...no need to make up things to show what an asshole he is.

Fish on...

Todd

I'll take making a move with 3 out of 4 being acceptable even in hindsight over sitting on our hands and being wrong any day. H3ll, I'd even consider bragging about it.

If a wife acts like a kunt, then what is the harm in "calling them as you see them" ? If/when I act like a "dick", I'll admit it... call it honesty.