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#458543 - 10/08/08 01:27 PM Need advice
willametteriveroutlaw Offline
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Not political, I know there will be no fun there. My GF is joining the navy, she can still get out. The only way I can get her to stay though is to give her a Ring Im pretty sure.. She's a great girl and has that potential, but we have only been dating for a few months and I'm not sure i am ready for that.. Any advice, tried the whole telling her F-off thing and moving on thing, but I can't seem to do it. Any advice?
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#458550 - 10/08/08 01:43 PM Re: Need advice [Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
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Could it be she is threatening to join the navy just to pressure you into giving her a ring? Sounds like you are being manipulated and controlled. If you have to ask for advice on this, you are clearly not ready. Especially after only a "few months" of dating. 2cents
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#458555 - 10/08/08 01:54 PM Re: Need advice [Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
stever in everett Offline
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Originally Posted By: willametteriveroutlaw
The only way I can get her to stay though is to give her a Ring Im pretty sure.. She's a great girl and has that potential, but ......


Sounds like BLACKMAIL to me. Not a way to start out. Is this your last chance at love? Are you ugly and no other woman would have you? Life is too short, Live as much as you can in the time you have and as Stam said you will have a lot more time to do the things you want to do.
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#458558 - 10/08/08 02:00 PM Re: Need advice [Re: stever in everett]
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Give her the ring (assuming you can afford to)...

Get engaged...



When she bails from the Navy, tell her about the pre-nup that your lawyers drew up...



She'll either marry you under the conditions you (both) put forth, or she'll prove she wasn't worth it by bailing on you...

Then get the ring back...
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#458561 - 10/08/08 02:07 PM Re: Need advice [Re: hohbomb73]
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May you are ready to go to the race track and wager a little bet on a horse. grin

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#458563 - 10/08/08 02:18 PM Re: Need advice [Re: John Lee Hookum]
Krijack Offline
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My advice is to let her join. Cool it off a little, but no need to break up right away. If the roles were reversed, no one would think the girl had to dump her boyfreind or marry him just because he joined the military. If you try the long distance romance and find out it can't work at all, you probably wouldn't make the marriage work either. If it works, you can marry her after she gets her permanent location and move down to where she is. Four years is a really short period. Having a wife who actually is willing to work and do new things could be a great advantage.

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#458564 - 10/08/08 02:23 PM Re: Need advice [Re: John Lee Hookum]
willametteriveroutlaw Offline
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Registered: 10/26/02
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Loc: Idaho
JLH,
Thats some funny [censored]..

She never put me up to the ring thing at all in fact, I don't think she was really that excited about it, went for a physical at meps and I believe she got caught up in the moment.

Stam,

I know, I have lived a kick ass bachleor lifestyle the last 10 years, fishing and hunting whenever the F**K I want and doing whatever the hell else I please. Not sure I need someone around to be honest, but its really nice the last few months to say the least.

The navy sounds about as much fun as a daily colonoscopy. I can barely stand having one boss, much less being stuck on a ship with a bunch of other dickwads trying to tell me what to do.

Stever,

Not sure, this is the first girl I've really enjoyed being with when her heads not burried in a pillow in quite some time. Strange has never been a problem to get, nice truck, good job, no kids, and make them laugh once or twice and their panties just drop.
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#458571 - 10/08/08 02:48 PM Re: Need advice [Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
Irie Offline
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Loc: South Sound
Usually when someone joins the Navy it's because they want to break off with whatever life they currently have and not see the people involved in it for a long, long, period of time if ever again..like a buddy of mine who's girlfriend crapped out his kid a week after high school ended and wanted to marry him and have him support her with his job pulling green chain.

With her, It maybe the navy today, and then the Hare Krishnas 10 years from now.

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#458575 - 10/08/08 02:59 PM Re: Need advice [Re: Irie]
cupo Offline
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If she wanted to be with you that much she wouldn't be joining the Navy. Move on.

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#458579 - 10/08/08 03:16 PM Re: Need advice [Re: cupo]
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#458581 - 10/08/08 03:19 PM Re: Need advice [Re: cupo]
docspud Offline
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JLH, that clip is some funny shiat.
Will, dont do it. This sounds like a really bad reason. Chances are you will say "what the hell did I do" in a few month like most guys even if you did it for the correct reason. At least then you only have yourself to blame and there is no feeling like you were trapped. Run for the hills young man........besides, it is just about time for the steelies to come back anyway.
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#458605 - 10/08/08 04:27 PM Re: Need advice [Re: docspud]
JTD Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 3007
Loc: Browns Point,Wa. USA
What Parker said. I wasn't sure twenty years ago either and took the plunge. The only good that came from it is three excellent kids of which I am very proud. They are the best gift I have ever been given without question. But would I marry again? Or would I have said yes twenty years ago if I had the benefit of hindsight? Absolutely not. If you aren't sure don't do it. If you are going to do it get a prenupt like said before. You may not have much now and it may not seem important but you have to imagine where you may end up down the road. I was certain divorce would never happen to me, she was, and in some respects still is, a great gal ... all I can say now is never is a long time.

Good luck.
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#458685 - 10/09/08 12:10 AM Re: Need advice [Re: ]
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What could marriage bring you that you can't get without it?

Parker - Amen brother! Never again.
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#458707 - 10/09/08 01:15 AM Re: Need advice [Re: stonefish]
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Registered: 12/23/01
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Ryan,

if you love something, set it free. if it doesn't come back, hunt it down and kill it.

maybe that was for dogs or something, not sure. Give it a try.

There are a few ladies out there, and if yours wants to run off, by all means, let her go...... fish on
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#458724 - 10/09/08 07:50 AM Re: Need advice [Re: kevin lund]
fish4brains Offline
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Originally Posted By: kevin lund
Ryan,

if you love something, set it free....... fish on


I have to agree with Kevin here.
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#458800 - 10/09/08 01:18 PM Re: Need advice [Re: fish4brains]
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Thanks for the advice guys.. Opened the door this morning said see ya. Grabbed the shotgun, camo, decoys, and am heading off to get ready for the duck opener.

I just realized that if she asked me to skip my AK trips, my Bowhunting trips, or fishing trips I'd tell her to F-off.. That put things in perspective.
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#458801 - 10/09/08 01:18 PM Re: Need advice [Re: fish4brains]
Irie Offline
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Now we get to sit back and see if WRO takes the heap of sage advice we've set upon his lap and says "bon voyage" the manipulative snatch, or see if he pussies out, spends $3K on a rock, and makes another post 6 months from now about his fiancee running off with his own brother. wink

PS--According to Oxford American Dictionary:

Quote:
Ultimatum noun "A final demand or statement of terms, the rejection of which will result in retaliation or a breakdown of relations. : the UN Security Council ultimatum demanding Iraq's withdrawal from Kuwait | a "Marry me or else" ultimatum.

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#458808 - 10/09/08 01:28 PM Re: Need advice [Re: fish4brains]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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Posts: 4450
Loc: B'ham
If you have to ask...

And the fact that you are asking a bunch of fisherman just means that you are double-fooked.

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#458813 - 10/09/08 02:04 PM Re: Need advice [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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The question is....are you loving who she is.......or who you think she is? If she needs a lot...or you do...the road will be rocky and uphill. If neither of you need much, the road will just be uphill. Good Luck.
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#458817 - 10/09/08 02:16 PM Re: Need advice [Re: ParaLeaks]
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He knew what advice he wanted to get, so he asked fishermen and sure enough got it.

I'm very very happy in my marriage, but the idea of proposing under some veiled or not-so veiled threat is crazy nuts.
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#458821 - 10/09/08 02:24 PM Re: Need advice [Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
stever in everett Offline
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Originally Posted By: willametteriveroutlaw
Thanks for the advice guys.. Opened the door this morning said see ya. Grabbed the shotgun, camo, decoys, and am heading off to get ready for the duck opener.

I just realized that if she asked me to skip my AK trips, my Bowhunting trips, or fishing trips I'd tell her to F-off.. That put things in perspective.
Glad to see you made the right decision. Now stick to your guns. Pun intended.
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#459423 - 10/12/08 08:53 PM Re: Need advice [Re: stever in everett]
willametteriveroutlaw Offline
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Update, Killed 5 woodie drakes, and 2 teal + my dog got its first retrieve. And no one to worry about at my house.. Tip top I tell ya tip top.
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#459450 - 10/12/08 10:19 PM Re: Need advice [Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
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I've been lucky enough to garner myself...

1. A beautiful, smart, and talented lady,

2. The ability to fish about 100 days per year, including my yearly 30 day trip in the spring,

3. who's been with me for almost nine years...

...and...

4. no ring yet.

It doesn't have to be either/or...they're out there.

Hell, she sounds pretty good...mebbe I oughta marry her smile

Fish on...

Todd
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#459507 - 10/13/08 12:19 AM Re: Need advice [Re: ]
Idaho Mike Offline
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You said it already, "I am not sure if I am ready". Read, you are not ready. Don't get hitched on a threat. Nothing good will come of it.
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#459512 - 10/13/08 12:41 AM Re: Need advice [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
You'd better before I come up there and steal her from you..... wink Sounds like my kind of woman.

Of course if she puts up with you at all she must be a progressive. Wouldn't get along with me. We'd be the Bickersons


She is...but she likes the wine you've sent, so you have an automatic "in"...plus, she doesn't always "get along" with me, either smile...

...except for on all the important things, which is why we've managed nine years and are still going strong.

We'll come by and visit next time we're in your neck of the woods, unless we see you this spring up here first!

Fish on...

Todd
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#459525 - 10/13/08 03:20 AM Re: Need advice [Re: ]
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Unless provoked, I'm good at leaving religion and politics at home when I go fishing...or at least at camp smile
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#459669 - 10/13/08 07:48 PM Re: Need advice [Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
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No worries. If the boy gets elected we won't have a Navy very long. The Ruskie's are aggressively getting it going with Venezuela, Iran is tooling up. Meanwhile Barrack Hussien Obama is promising to neuter the military and take away all the nukes. I would say that we probably have bigger fish to fry. If not get hitched and raise a family. That's what life is all about.


Edited by KoneZone (10/13/08 07:50 PM)
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#459671 - 10/13/08 07:53 PM Re: Need advice [Re: KoneZone]
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Quote:
No worries. If your boy gets elected we won't have a Navy very long.


No kidding, huh?

I'd better really think about this vote.

Does Obama eat little babies for dinner, too?
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#459672 - 10/13/08 07:57 PM Re: Need advice [Re: Dan S.]
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Originally Posted By: Dan S.
Quote:
No worries. If your boy gets elected we won't have a Navy very long.


No kidding, huh?

I'd better really think about this vote.

Does Obama eat little babies for dinner, too?


No, that's Tyson.
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#459689 - 10/13/08 09:32 PM Re: Need advice [Re: KoneZone]
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Originally Posted By: KoneZone
No worries. If the boy gets elected we won't have a Navy very long. The Ruskie's are aggressively getting it going with Venezuela, Iran is tooling up. Meanwhile Barrack Hussien Obama is promising to neuter the military and take away all the nukes. I would say that we probably have bigger fish to fry. If not get hitched and raise a family. That's what life is all about.


You must not look here too often. He's not my boy first off, and for christ sake I was asking degenerate fishermen for there opinions on a life issue, not FUKING political input. I can't wait for this abortion of an election to end so I can read SOL's posts about his sexual exploits and enjoyment of all things green, see mergantrioder show us all how to be metrosexual, and get insights on other interesting information (bikini thursday). I frankly could care less at this point if we have a Crakcer/milf or African American/cracker in the executive office there both going to FUK sh!t up in the end. I know they are going to Fuk up my life, I was just checking on whether or not I should help them out.


Edited by willametteriveroutlaw (10/14/08 11:45 AM)
Edit Reason: God forbid someone gets offended
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#459690 - 10/13/08 09:40 PM Re: Need advice [Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
seastrike Offline
Hey Man....It's cool...

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Posts: 4242
Loc: seattle
I wish the filter would have picked up *coon*. I don't think that's very cool.


Edited by seastrike (10/13/08 09:41 PM)

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#459699 - 10/13/08 10:07 PM Re: Need advice [Re: seastrike]
Dave Vedder Offline
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Registered: 10/09/02
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Originally Posted By: seastrike
I wish the filter would have picked up *coon*. I don't think that's very cool.


It's well beneath pretty cool. It's a reflection on the person who uses the term, and not a favorable one. Whatever else he may have to say is diminished by his lack of class. The funny thing is he undoubtedly thinks he's superior to those he insults.


Edited by Dave Vedder (10/13/08 10:36 PM)
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#459710 - 10/13/08 10:41 PM Re: Need advice [Re: The Moderator]
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Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 2268
Loc: Poulsbo
Originally Posted By: parker
If I could do it over again, I'd just go fishing.......


your talkin peerty tough there Parker---I don't think another batch of flowers will get ya outa this one!
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#459711 - 10/13/08 10:42 PM Re: Need advice [Re: ]
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Registered: 11/24/03
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Loc: Poulsbo
Originally Posted By: stam
LOL, tough one.

Depends on you, some guys need someone....some don't. Those of us that don't sure get to get out and do a whole lot more than those that do.

...or, you could join the navy.

Good luck....you're gunna need it! thumbs

stam


What can we say---Stam plays alone well!!
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#459793 - 10/14/08 11:44 AM Re: Need advice [Re: Bucket/Good Sport]
willametteriveroutlaw Offline
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Cracker and milf have the exact same deroagatory connotations.

But I changed it anyways, as to not offend anyone..

Just so its known, I'm not a racist I hate everyone equally regardless of skin color.


Edited by willametteriveroutlaw (10/14/08 11:47 AM)
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#459814 - 10/14/08 01:41 PM Re: Need advice [Re: KoneZone]
Irie Offline
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Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 4317
Loc: South Sound
Originally Posted By: KoneZone
No worries. If the boy gets elected we won't have a Navy very long. The Ruskie's are aggressively getting it going with Venezuela, Iran is tooling up. Meanwhile Barrack Hussien Obama is promising to neuter the military and take away all the nukes. I would say that we probably have bigger fish to fry. If not get hitched and raise a family. That's what life is all about.


I love Cold Warriors!
Do you make you kids do duck and cover drills every month? Check under your bed for Ruskies before you turn in? Do you have Red Dawn on VHS, DVD, and Blu-Ray? (Its not sick jingoist propaganda, it's a documentary, dammit!)

rofl

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#459821 - 10/14/08 02:05 PM Re: Need advice [Re: Bucket/Good Sport]
The Moderator Offline
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Originally Posted By: Bucket


your talkin peerty tough there Parker---I don't think another batch of flowers will get ya outa this one!


Yeah, FishGal has been volunteering to help me with a current shoulder issue - and by "help", I mean anything that involves mass amounts of pain and agony on my part.

The best part is that my wife said, "Yeah, me too!"

Ah, women. You can't live with 'em, and you can't kill 'em.

laugh
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#459827 - 10/14/08 02:26 PM Re: Need advice [Re: The Moderator]
willametteriveroutlaw Offline
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Registered: 10/26/02
Posts: 908
Loc: Idaho
Originally Posted By: parker
Originally Posted By: Bucket


your talkin peerty tough there Parker---I don't think another batch of flowers will get ya outa this one!


Yeah, FishGal has been volunteering to help me with a current shoulder issue - and by "help", I mean anything that involves mass amounts of pain and agony on my part.

The best part is that my wife said, "Yeah, me too!"

Ah, women. You can't live with 'em, and you can't kill 'em.

laugh


The only thing we keep them around for is that sweet spot between there legs and the only thing they keep us around for is chores.
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#460334 - 10/16/08 11:28 AM Re: Need advice [Re: ]
willametteriveroutlaw Offline
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Posts: 908
Loc: Idaho
Originally Posted By: AuntyM
Quote:
The only thing we keep them around for is that sweet spot between there legs and the only thing they keep us around for is chores.


You've been meeting the WRONG women dude!


This girl is alot more special than that, but she has to do what she feels she needs to do and by that thought so do I.
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