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#464548 - 11/02/08 01:45 AM Re: So about Obama's infomercial.... [Re: Tackle Shack]
Oregonian Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
Originally Posted By: TheBaker
Originally Posted By: Oregonian


Are you implying that "Muslim" is a race ?


Are you implying that you want Kevin's racist balls on your chin?



I didn't imply anything, I simply asked a question. The part Kevin wrote about a "black man in office" was clearly a race based comment, I didn't know by the reply if the poster was refering to "Muslim" as a race or a religion. Thanks all for the homosexual inuendos, but I am a practicing heteralsexual and don't have immediate plans to change that status.

Is it true that liberals are open minded and peacefull ?

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#464557 - 11/02/08 02:26 AM Re: So about Obama's infomercial.... [Re: Oregonian]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Originally Posted By: Oregonian


Is it true that liberals are open minded and peacefull ?


Mostly...except for dealing with hatemongering dipshits like Lund...and, unfortunately, you sometimes.

Jackasses sometimes forget that "tolerance" doesn't mean tolerance of idiocy, racism, or hate.

Fish on...

Todd
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#464558 - 11/02/08 02:30 AM Re: So about Obama's infomercial.... [Re: Oregonian]
nookie dreamin' Offline
Spawner

Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 937
Loc: Everwet
I gotta say that it took great big brass cajones to post what kevin posted.. I admire his guts.. I also know that this board is predominantly liberal in its views, and anyone who would choose to defile "The Messiah" must be prepared to reap the whirlwind, yes the fire and brimstone which only comes from the pagan idolatry formed by the Obammy faithful. Kevin kudos to you for speaking you mind, never let them take that from you. It will be truly sad when the faithful realize they are worshiping the "Golden Calf".
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#464559 - 11/02/08 02:33 AM Re: So about Obama's infomercial.... [Re: nookie dreamin']
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
"Not liberal" and racist asshole are not the same thing.

Lund, apparently, happens to be both.

Fish on...

Todd
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#464561 - 11/02/08 02:35 AM Re: So about Obama's infomercial.... [Re: nookie dreamin']
mreyns_tgl Offline
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Registered: 11/06/03
Posts: 3323
Loc: Port Angeles
wow...supporting a guy who made a racist statement...keep those knuckles draggin!! t-o-o-l

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#464562 - 11/02/08 02:40 AM Re: So about Obama's infomercial.... [Re: mreyns_tgl]
nookie dreamin' Offline
Spawner

Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 937
Loc: Everwet
Hey I said I admired his guts, I didn't say I supported his view on race. Race is not the issue here, it's about who is truly qualified to lead our country... and Obammy isn't.... So, mreyns stfu! F-o-o-l
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#464564 - 11/02/08 05:41 AM Re: So about Obama's infomercial.... [Re: nookie dreamin']
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WINNER

Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 10363
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Hasn't this thread taken an ugly twist. And not just on one side. I have posted this definition before, but here it is again for your amusement...............

Quote:
American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This big·ot (b&#301;g'&#601;t) Pronunciation Key
n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

[French, from Old French.]

Word History: Bigots may have more in common with God than one might think. Legend has it that Rollo, the first duke of Normandy, refused to kiss the foot of the French king Charles III, uttering the phrase bi got, his borrowing of the assumed Old English equivalent of our expression by God. Although this story is almost surely apocryphal, it is true that bigot was used by the French as a term of abuse for the Normans, but not in a religious sense. Later, however, the word, or very possibly a homonym, was used abusively in French for the Beguines, members of a Roman Catholic lay sisterhood. From the 15th century on Old French bigot meant "an excessively devoted or hypocritical person." Bigot is first recorded in English in 1598 with the sense "a superstitious hypocrite."


Always makes for an interesting dilemma when verbiage gets in the way. smile I found Kevin's original comment racist, for sure......I likewise found the "pack attack" less than effective....a point that I think Oregonian was trying to make.

Consider if the group response had simply been something along the line of "Racist comments are not acceptable here." Is there anyone who thinks that wouldn't have been just as effective? By definition (see above) racism and group intolerance is both bigotry.

For the record, I don't like Obama...not one little bit. I don't think he has earned any sort of trust, which many seem to just blow off. But....My gut feelings may be wrong...I certainly hope so. My distrust, however, has nothing whatsoever to do with his race (which one?...he's as much white as black smile ). On the reality check side of the coin lies this question....Do you think that this election will be influenced by racism? I think definitely it will.

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#464565 - 11/02/08 05:46 AM Re: So about Obama's infomercial.... [Re: kevin lund]
cupo Offline
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Registered: 06/18/03
Posts: 1041
Loc: north sound
Originally Posted By: kevin lund
Obama wants to spread the wealth......... He's gonna be in office for about 6 months, then he's gonna get shot, you watch. LMFAO! when it happens!


Congratulations on making the watchlist.

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#464570 - 11/02/08 08:08 AM Re: So about Obama's infomercial.... [Re: ParaLeaks]
Oregonian Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
Originally Posted By: Slab Happy
Hasn't this thread taken an ugly twist. And not just on one side.



Always makes for an interesting dilemma when verbiage gets in the way. smile I found Kevin's original comment racist, for sure......I likewise found the "pack attack" less than effective....a point that I think Oregonian was trying to make.



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#464571 - 11/02/08 08:12 AM Re: So about Obama's infomercial.... [Re: Todd]
Oregonian Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
Originally Posted By: Todd
Originally Posted By: Oregonian


Is it true that liberals are open minded and peacefull ?


Mostly...except for dealing with hatemongering dipshits like Lund...and, unfortunately, you sometimes.

Jackasses sometimes forget that "tolerance" doesn't mean tolerance of idiocy, racism, or hate.

Fish on...

Todd


Do you have any examples of my thoughts or comments that earned me this designation ?

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#464578 - 11/02/08 10:00 AM Re: So about Obama's infomercial.... [Re: Oregonian]
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Registered: 08/23/06
Posts: 6207
Loc: zipper
Originally Posted By: Oregonian


Do you have any examples of my thoughts or comments that earned me this designation ?


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#464589 - 11/02/08 10:44 AM Re: So about Obama's infomercial.... [Re: ParaLeaks]
Dave Vedder Offline
Reverend Tarpones

Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
Originally Posted By: Slab Happy
Hasn't this thread taken an ugly twist. And not just on one side.
I found Kevin's original comment racist, for sure......I likewise found the "pack attack" less than effective....a point that I think Oregonian was trying to make.

Consider if the group response had simply been something along the line of "Racist comments are not acceptable here." Is there anyone who thinks that wouldn't have been just as effective? By definition (see above) racism and group intolerance is both bigotry.


On the reality check side of the coin lies this question....Do you think that this election will be influenced by racism? I think definitely it will.

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I see absolutely no reason he should not have been attacked for such blatantly racist remarks. Not a "pack attack" in my mind, simply a gut level response from those who were offended.

I have no issue with anyone not liking Barrack. I highly doubt he will be as great a president as many hope for. But to make pejorative racial remarks and then to openly hoping for his assassination says way more about the person who makes such stupid remarks than it does about those who are offended by them. A huge and openly hostile response was, IMHO the only proper response.

Will race play a part in this election? Certainly. Many blacks will vote for Obama simply based on race and many ignorant whites will do the opposite.
Both are wrong. But to openly hope for the assassination of a U.S. president is un-American and proof of a very small, very limited and fully closed mind.
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#464628 - 11/02/08 01:07 PM Re: So about Obama's infomercial.... [Re: Dave Vedder]
Neal M Offline
The Enemy

Registered: 12/13/99
Posts: 2742
Loc: Bainbridge Island and Sappho, ...
I don't think Kevin got enough.... These comments have nothing to do with "guts", just hate and ignorance.
Kevin, you won't see any business from me or my friends.

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#464631 - 11/02/08 01:43 PM Re: So about Obama's infomercial.... [Re: ]
Irie Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 4317
Loc: South Sound
Originally Posted By: stam
Originally Posted By: Neal M
I don't think Kevin got enough.... These comments have nothing to do with "guts", just hate and ignorance.
Kevin, you won't see any business from me or my friends.


I'm one of Neals friends, glad that what I suspected about kevin was confirmed before I allowed my daughter to apply to work up at his dads lodge again.

Never had a very high opinion of lund, glad to see I'm a good judge of character.....or lack of it. frown

stam



Same here.

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#464643 - 11/02/08 02:40 PM Re: So about Obama's infomercial.... [Re: Todd]
TBJ Offline
Carcass

Registered: 01/08/07
Posts: 2199
Loc: Bainbridge Island
Originally Posted By: Todd


Moronic and racist horseshit that you seem to think passes for "discourse" has no place in any civilized society.



I hope you and your hate can sleep well at night...I pity the folks that have to spend time around an asshole like you. You're an embarrassment not just to the sportfishing world, but an embarrassement to humankind.

Fish on...

Todd


Moronic horseshit is par for the course for the darkside and part of what makes it so fun. Racist horseshit should not be tolerated. I've been reading your posts since I got on here and always thought you were an elitist dipshit. Now I know I was right. Your post was not only an embarassment to humankind but it was an emarassment to the board. Not my call but I woukd be happy not to see you around here anymore. What an assclown.


Edited by TBJ (11/02/08 02:46 PM)
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#464645 - 11/02/08 03:07 PM Re: So about Obama's infomercial.... [Re: Neal M]
mreyns_tgl Offline
Random VaJJ Stalker

Registered: 11/06/03
Posts: 3323
Loc: Port Angeles
Originally Posted By: Neal M
I don't think Kevin got enough.... These comments have nothing to do with "guts", just hate and ignorance.
Kevin, you won't see any business from me or my friends.


that's sums it up the best neal thumbs

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#464649 - 11/02/08 03:25 PM Re: So about Obama's infomercial.... [Re: mreyns_tgl]
Bob Offline

Dazed and Confused

Registered: 03/05/99
Posts: 6367
Loc: Forks, WA & Soldotna, AK
Wow ... been pretty busy, so I missed the forecasting call on this storm ... sorry, even in here. And even in here, this is way over the top. As most around me know, I'm no Obama fan by any means, but this is flat out unappropraite, even in the light touch I usually keep. Good night to this one!
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