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#468372 - 11/18/08 06:55 AM BFG's or Toyo's?
MrOutdoors1 Offline
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Im in the market for some new tires for my truck. Its going to have a lift soon so I can get up to 35's on it. Im down to two choices, BFG All-Terrain KO's, in a 305/65/18 (33.7 x12.2)or the Toyo Open Country A/T's in a 285/75/18 (34.8 x 11.3). Any of you guys have experience with either brand? pros and cons?
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#468379 - 11/18/08 09:01 AM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: MrOutdoors1]
Chum Man Offline
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the BFG A/Ts are pretty susceptible to hydroplaning, and if you have to go through any slimy stuff(clay etc) they're about worthless. i'd go with the toyos.

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#468397 - 11/18/08 11:09 AM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: MrOutdoors1]
big moby Offline
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what type of truck?
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#468449 - 11/18/08 01:15 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: big moby]
Irie Offline
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I had Toyo A/T's (305x55 R20) on my '06 F-250. Just pulled them off last month. Damn things barley lasted 40,000 Miles. I'll do the BFG's next I think. I'm back to stock wheels and tires for now. Hey, the fuel economy is about half again better and there's much better freeway handling and less road noise.

Then again, They pulled a heavy load over The Cascades and The Rockies mulitple times and across +120*F Arizona highway.

It all depends on the rubber hardness and tread pattern/depth for what you'll be doing. My mistake was using meaty A/T tires on a cross-country freeway trip. Same as you shouldn't use highway tires to explore USFS fire trails.

Don't go jogging in leather boots or try to hike in running shoes.

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#468458 - 11/18/08 01:43 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: Irie]
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I have Pirelli Scorpions on my new F150. Haven't tried them in snow yet but they feel good and get rave reviews.
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#468476 - 11/18/08 03:15 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: stlhead]
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BFG's or Michelin AT2's.
Never understood the idea of the big treadblocks.
Worthless.
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#468478 - 11/18/08 03:20 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: MrOutdoors1]
SundayMoney Offline
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Registered: 07/06/04
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Flip a coin. I've ran a few sets of the BFGs,and a fews sets of the Toyos. I've never seen less than 50k out of either brand on a 1/2 ton. Both have comparable traction on/off road.

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#468479 - 11/18/08 03:23 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: goforchrome]
SundayMoney Offline
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Originally Posted By: goforchrome
BFG's or Michelin AT2's.
Never understood the idea of the big treadblocks.
Worthless.


I guess if you drive a pavement queen,you wouldn't understand the idea of big treadblocks.

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#468513 - 11/18/08 05:42 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: goforchrome]
Irie Offline
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Originally Posted By: goforchrome
BFG's or Michelin AT2's.
Never understood the idea of the big treadblocks.
Worthless.


Thick mud, heavy snow, or loose sand.

Like Sunday said, if you don't leave pavement there's no reason to waste thousands on Meaty tires.

Im seriously contemplating keeping around 2 sets; Highway tires for regular use, long drives & trips w/ the camper, and another for winter's mud and snow.
Of course, if you feel you need a Monster Truck for your daily commute to your 9 to 5 office job, so everyone will know what a manly man you are, there are fake monster truck tires made for hwy use only. You see em in California all the time.

The guys at Les Schwab will snicker at you, but from far away no one will be the wiser.

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#468527 - 11/18/08 06:53 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: Irie]
MrOutdoors1 Offline
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Thanks for the feedback so far guys. The truck is not a pavement queen, it will see offroad use, that is why Im putting a small lift and more aggressive tires on it. And why Im looking at 34-35" tires, for addtional ground clearance. The two tires in question are about equal in pricing so I guess I have to decide if I want a bit shorter, wider tire in the bfg or a taller, narrower one in the toyo. Keep the feedback coming, I appreciate it.


Edited by MrOutdoors1 (11/18/08 06:55 PM)
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#468531 - 11/18/08 07:16 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: SundayMoney]
goforchrome Offline
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Loc: sammamish WA
Originally Posted By: SundayMoney
Originally Posted By: goforchrome
BFG's or Michelin AT2's.
Never understood the idea of the big treadblocks.
Worthless.


I guess if you drive a pavement queen,you wouldn't understand the idea of big treadblocks.


You shouldn't guess.

I have lived in and driven extensively the mountains of Colorado and Washington, mud and clay of Ohio and Texas, and never once wished I had bigger, wider or blockier tires.
Usually, I was passing or pulling out the macho trucks (think red, liftkit, calvin/hobbs, NASCAR reference, scrotum from the hitch).
Look at the people that drive offroad for a living....Colorado highway patrol trucks...pizza cutter tires with small treadblocks/siped.
I will continue to cover the backcountry with my Michelin LTX AT's and have a jerkstrap for when I come up on you.
Wish I had a picture of the two Toyota Boytrucks that I passed in the mud with my little soccer mom GrandCherokee...it was like they saw a ghost.
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#468537 - 11/18/08 07:46 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: goforchrome]
LoweDown Offline
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Loc: Forks, WA
Toyo MT's.

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#468538 - 11/18/08 07:47 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: goforchrome]
Irie Offline
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Loc: South Sound
That's true. I once did see a '76 Datsun B210 beat 5 jacked-up 4x4 pickups in claypits with water-filled waist deep ruts.

Bald tires on front, studded snowtires on back. I thing technique had alot to do with it too.
smile

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#468539 - 11/18/08 07:57 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: Irie]
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Registered: 05/22/07
Posts: 1616
Loc: Echo Lake
BFG all terrains are the only way to go. I have set on my 3/4 ton dodge cummins, they just hit 85,000 miles and have several thousand miles left on them. As for hydroplaning these tires are the least prone to hydroplaning of any tire I have every owned. These tires saw lots of asphalt but lots of snow and gravel as well.
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#468554 - 11/18/08 09:05 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: huntncoug]
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On my second set of Toyo's on the big truck, and granted, I haul some heavy weight with them ... I'm not happy with tread life at all. I'm still waiting for an E rated KO to come out in the 285/70/17 so I can give 'em a whirl. I have the KO's on both my little rigs and absolutely love them on those rigs ... but I won't drop to a D rated tire on the big one just to try them. Come on BFG, lots of people asking for them!
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#468563 - 11/18/08 09:41 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: Bob]
MrOutdoors1 Offline
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Wow, Im honored you posted in one of my threads Bob smile
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#468582 - 11/18/08 11:10 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: MrOutdoors1]
Irie Offline
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Registered: 11/26/06
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Bob saw what shape my Toyo's were in when I tried a U-turn in the snow after floating the Hoh..'course I had the camper on...

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#468762 - 11/19/08 07:05 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: Irie]
ColeyG Offline
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Registered: 02/08/07
Posts: 3076
Loc: AK
Cooper makes a pretty sweet mud terrain tire. It is the Discoverer STT. I was looking at Toyo and the BFG's and wound up going for the Cooper based on the recommendation of a friend. So far so good. They are quiet on the road and roll really well for an aggressive tread pattern. The price was in the same neighborhood as the others, perhaps a bit cheaper. No issues with water or mud yet and they have handled all I have thrown at them so far.
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#468782 - 11/19/08 07:52 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: MrOutdoors1]
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If you didn't have that wimpy Ford, I would have passed along more info smile
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#468785 - 11/19/08 07:54 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: Irie]
Bob Offline

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Originally Posted By: Irie
Bob saw what shape my Toyo's were in when I tried a U-turn in the snow after floating the Hoh..'course I had the camper on...


And there I was gonna have to figure out how to pull ya out with the little Blazer!
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