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#468787 - 11/19/08 07:58 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: Bob]
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I may be wrong and by no means want to correct Bob, But that looks like a toyota to me.

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#468788 - 11/19/08 08:02 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: Bob]
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I just replaced my Toyo's with the BFG's. I wasn't happy with the Toyo's in the snow after getting stuck in my driveway last winter.
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#468798 - 11/19/08 08:57 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: CHUBS]
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Originally Posted By: CHUBS
I may be wrong and by no means want to correct Bob, But that looks like a toyota to me.



Why not? Corey does it non-stop! I guess it is ... I just glanced at the "sloped" front end look and figured it was a Ford. Not a real truck w/o a Cummins smile
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#468810 - 11/19/08 09:45 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: Bob]
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Originally Posted By: Bob
If you didn't have that wimpy Ford, I would have passed along more info smile


Nope, its a Toyota. I wont buy a ford until they put a decent motor in the F150. The 5.4 Triton is gutless. Im happy with the 5.7 in the Tundra, 0-60 in 6.3 seconds and ability to tow over 10k lbs in a double cab 4wheel drive works for me. Not to mention the 6spd tranny is super smooth. Im sure Ill get plenty of flaq from the Ford, GM and dodge lovers, but I did drive them all and bought what I thought was the best available truck at the time.


Edited by MrOutdoors1 (11/19/08 09:48 PM)
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#468812 - 11/19/08 09:46 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: MrOutdoors1]
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Registered: 08/07/06
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Originally Posted By: Bob
Not a real truck w/o a Cummins smile


+1.

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#468824 - 11/19/08 10:47 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: ColeyG]
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Registered: 01/26/00
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Loc: Vancouver, WA
Originally Posted By: ColeyG
Cooper makes a pretty sweet mud terrain tire. It is the Discoverer STT. I was looking at Toyo and the BFG's and wound up going for the Cooper based on the recommendation of a friend. So far so good. They are quiet on the road and roll really well for an aggressive tread pattern. The price was in the same neighborhood as the others, perhaps a bit cheaper. No issues with water or mud yet and they have handled all I have thrown at them so far.


I ran 3 sets of the Toyo's then a buddy of mine suggested the Coopers as well. Great tire and great price compared to the Toyo's.. Toyo is the Nordstrom of tires, over-priced really!

I'll run the Coopers from here out, the set I have now has close to 30K on them and about 40% tread left on my 1/2 ton dodge and I never rotate my tires..... They wear perfect.....

Keith thumbs
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#468917 - 11/20/08 11:41 AM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: stlhdr1]
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"The 5.4 Triton is gutless"

First person I've heard that from. It's a truck not a sports car. But I bought mine because it was too good to pass up even though I was debating on the Tundra. And, it's my third Ford truck. $27k for a fully loaded Lariat with 54 miles. Don't know about the Perelli tires but there are really good deals right now if you have the dough.

Ford F-150 vs. Toyota Tundra Review
Handling
The Ford F-150 and the Toyota Tundra have approximately similar tires. With their comparable turning circles, the Toyota Tundra and the Ford F-150 most definitely handle about the same into and out of tight spots.

Drivetrain
The Ford F-150's engine is substantially more massive than the Tundra's. Note that more sizeable engines may use more gasoline than smaller ones. Torque is the force that lets you accelerate quickly, and in this respect, the Ford F-150 is markedly more powerful than the Toyota Tundra. The Toyota Tundra could learn a lesson or two from the Ford in terms of torque.

Utility
The Ford and the Toyota Tundra can accommodate the same number of passengers. The Ford F-150 is likely a better choice than the Toyota Tundra when it comes to transporting cargo, especially if you often need to carry a lot of cargo or sizeable pets. Towing is significantly more the Ford F-150's forte than it is the Tundra's.

Convenience
You'll most definitely take the Toyota Tundra for a fill-up approximately as often as the F-150.

Comfort
While the front cabin in the F-150 offers a bit more head room than the Toyota Tundra, there really isn't much of a difference. The F-150 provides more head- and leg-room to your passengers than the Toyota Tundra does.

Dimensions
The Ford F-150 is somewhat heavier than the Toyota Tundra. The Toyota Tundra's tank is approximately the same size as the Ford's, though the F-150's is somewhat bigger. The Toyota Tundra rides lower than the Ford, which is a good thing for its center of gravity and ease of access. The Toyota Tundra and the F-150 compete for the same parking spaces. The Toyota's shorter wheelbase will give a more agile feel in daily traffic. On the flip side, the Ford is likely to have a smoother, more stable ride.

Cost
The destination charge is a standard charge for transporting the vehicle from its point of origin to the dealer. The Toyota Tundra is markedly cheaper to get to the dealership than the Ford F-150. The Ford F-150 doesn't pale in comparison to the Toyota Tundra with respect to fuel economy. The Ford F-150 won't save you much money at the pump compared to the Toyota Tundra. The Ford F-150 isn't much more expensive than the Toyota Tundra as far as MSRP. The F-150 is an affordable speedster.

Overview
The Toyota Tundra and the Ford F-150 have the same basic warranty.


Edited by stlhead (11/20/08 11:41 AM)
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#469046 - 11/20/08 04:56 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: stlhead]
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Registered: 10/26/02
Posts: 908
Loc: Idaho
Originally Posted By: stlhead
"The 5.4 Triton is gutless"

First person I've heard that from. It's a truck not a sports car. But I bought mine because it was too good to pass up even though I was debating on the Tundra. And, it's my third Ford truck. $27k for a fully loaded Lariat with 54 miles. Don't know about the Perelli tires but there are really good deals right now if you have the dough.

Ford F-150 vs. Toyota Tundra Review
Handling
The Ford F-150 and the Toyota Tundra have approximately similar tires. With their comparable turning circles, the Toyota Tundra and the Ford F-150 most definitely handle about the same into and out of tight spots.

Drivetrain
The Ford F-150's engine is substantially more massive than the Tundra's. Note that more sizeable engines may use more gasoline than smaller ones. Torque is the force that lets you accelerate quickly, and in this respect, the Ford F-150 is markedly more powerful than the Toyota Tundra. The Toyota Tundra could learn a lesson or two from the Ford in terms of torque.

Utility
The Ford and the Toyota Tundra can accommodate the same number of passengers. The Ford F-150 is likely a better choice than the Toyota Tundra when it comes to transporting cargo, especially if you often need to carry a lot of cargo or sizeable pets. Towing is significantly more the Ford F-150's forte than it is the Tundra's.

Convenience
You'll most definitely take the Toyota Tundra for a fill-up approximately as often as the F-150.

Comfort
While the front cabin in the F-150 offers a bit more head room than the Toyota Tundra, there really isn't much of a difference. The F-150 provides more head- and leg-room to your passengers than the Toyota Tundra does.

Dimensions
The Ford F-150 is somewhat heavier than the Toyota Tundra. The Toyota Tundra's tank is approximately the same size as the Ford's, though the F-150's is somewhat bigger. The Toyota Tundra rides lower than the Ford, which is a good thing for its center of gravity and ease of access. The Toyota Tundra and the F-150 compete for the same parking spaces. The Toyota's shorter wheelbase will give a more agile feel in daily traffic. On the flip side, the Ford is likely to have a smoother, more stable ride.

Cost
The destination charge is a standard charge for transporting the vehicle from its point of origin to the dealer. The Toyota Tundra is markedly cheaper to get to the dealership than the Ford F-150. The Ford F-150 doesn't pale in comparison to the Toyota Tundra with respect to fuel economy. The Ford F-150 won't save you much money at the pump compared to the Toyota Tundra. The Ford F-150 isn't much more expensive than the Toyota Tundra as far as MSRP. The F-150 is an affordable speedster.

Overview
The Toyota Tundra and the Ford F-150 have the same basic warranty.


Where did that review come from, A nascar website? The tundra is heads and shoulders above the F 150 only has 300 hp, vs 385 for the tundra. Ahead in towing, mpg, reliability, and resale.
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#469052 - 11/20/08 05:03 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
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Registered: 01/26/00
Posts: 6312
Loc: Vancouver, WA
Originally Posted By: willametteriveroutlaw
Originally Posted By: stlhead
"The 5.4 Triton is gutless"

First person I've heard that from. It's a truck not a sports car. But I bought mine because it was too good to pass up even though I was debating on the Tundra. And, it's my third Ford truck. $27k for a fully loaded Lariat with 54 miles. Don't know about the Perelli tires but there are really good deals right now if you have the dough.

Ford F-150 vs. Toyota Tundra Review
Handling
The Ford F-150 and the Toyota Tundra have approximately similar tires. With their comparable turning circles, the Toyota Tundra and the Ford F-150 most definitely handle about the same into and out of tight spots.

Drivetrain
The Ford F-150's engine is substantially more massive than the Tundra's. Note that more sizeable engines may use more gasoline than smaller ones. Torque is the force that lets you accelerate quickly, and in this respect, the Ford F-150 is markedly more powerful than the Toyota Tundra. The Toyota Tundra could learn a lesson or two from the Ford in terms of torque.

Utility
The Ford and the Toyota Tundra can accommodate the same number of passengers. The Ford F-150 is likely a better choice than the Toyota Tundra when it comes to transporting cargo, especially if you often need to carry a lot of cargo or sizeable pets. Towing is significantly more the Ford F-150's forte than it is the Tundra's.

Convenience
You'll most definitely take the Toyota Tundra for a fill-up approximately as often as the F-150.

Comfort
While the front cabin in the F-150 offers a bit more head room than the Toyota Tundra, there really isn't much of a difference. The F-150 provides more head- and leg-room to your passengers than the Toyota Tundra does.

Dimensions
The Ford F-150 is somewhat heavier than the Toyota Tundra. The Toyota Tundra's tank is approximately the same size as the Ford's, though the F-150's is somewhat bigger. The Toyota Tundra rides lower than the Ford, which is a good thing for its center of gravity and ease of access. The Toyota Tundra and the F-150 compete for the same parking spaces. The Toyota's shorter wheelbase will give a more agile feel in daily traffic. On the flip side, the Ford is likely to have a smoother, more stable ride.

Cost
The destination charge is a standard charge for transporting the vehicle from its point of origin to the dealer. The Toyota Tundra is markedly cheaper to get to the dealership than the Ford F-150. The Ford F-150 doesn't pale in comparison to the Toyota Tundra with respect to fuel economy. The Ford F-150 won't save you much money at the pump compared to the Toyota Tundra. The Ford F-150 isn't much more expensive than the Toyota Tundra as far as MSRP. The F-150 is an affordable speedster.

Overview
The Toyota Tundra and the Ford F-150 have the same basic warranty.


Where did that review come from, A nascar website? The tundra is heads and shoulders above the F 150 only has 300 hp, vs 385 for the tundra. Ahead in towing, mpg, reliability, and resale.


The new 2009 Dodge 1500 tops them all....... Beauty of a truck, rides better, tows better, has more horsepower, better warranty, more luxurious and looks better......

Keith
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#469099 - 11/20/08 07:22 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: stlhdr1]
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Registered: 07/08/05
Posts: 185
Loc: Redmond, WA
[/quote]

The new 2009 Dodge 1500 tops them all....... Beauty of a truck, rides better, tows better, has more horsepower, better warranty, more luxurious and looks better......

Keith [/quote]

Thats YOUR opinion. I think they are nice but, for example, 390hp vs 381 in the tundra is not a big deal. Same with 407tq to 401. And Im not sure what you mean by tows better, but the ford and the toyota's towing capacity both out gun the dodges. Also the dodge for some reason only has a 5spd tranny, where the toyota, ford and gms all have 6. Regardless I think all the new trucks have come along way from what they were and are all good choices. None are perfect. It just depends on what matters most to the individual buying them. I also didnt want to turn this into a debate of whos got a better truck. I know that alot of you own trucks, and last time I check ALL trucks have tires...so I thought I would ask for input on what you guys thought or what your experiences were with the two brands I mentioned. Ive narrowed it down to those to thru much research and whats available in sizes Im looking for. I do appreciate all the feedback.


Edited by MrOutdoors1 (11/20/08 07:28 PM)
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#469211 - 11/21/08 06:46 AM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: MrOutdoors1]
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Registered: 11/07/99
Posts: 2688
Loc: Yelmish
i cringe every time someone wants "luxury" in a truck...

give me something that's 4wd, manual transmission, manual hubs and t-case, cranks on the windows, hell, i don't even care if it's got power steering or a/c(ok, a/c is always nice).

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#469288 - 11/21/08 12:48 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: Chum Man]
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
yeah but your $500 junker, I mean truck, sit's in the driveway. I'll tow it around for you if you pay me though. You can crank down the windows and it'll be like having old time a/c.

All the trucks out these days are pretty damned nice. I wanted either a Tundra or another Ford. Money talks with me and the Ford deals right now are way more truck for the dollar than Toyota. It was about time the market adjusted. $40K+ for a truck was getting obscene.
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#469296 - 11/21/08 12:55 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: MrOutdoors1]
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Posts: 13942
Loc: Tuleville
Originally Posted By: MrOutdoors1
Thats YOUR opinion.


Fish on!

Uh, Keith works for a Dodge dealership....

Sales are at an all time low......

wink
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#469528 - 11/21/08 09:26 PM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: The Moderator]
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Registered: 07/08/05
Posts: 185
Loc: Redmond, WA
Originally Posted By: parker
Originally Posted By: MrOutdoors1
Thats YOUR opinion.


Fish on!

Uh, Keith works for a Dodge dealership....

Sales are at an all time low......

wink


Its a great time if youre in the market for a full size truck right now.
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#469604 - 11/22/08 12:56 AM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: MrOutdoors1]
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Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 4317
Loc: South Sound
55k on my '06 Powerstroke 250.

The ONLY thing that's shat out was the right taillight bulb, and that was made by Sylvania.

Have to give the lightbulb credit though, it took the fuse with it when it burnt out.

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#469617 - 11/22/08 02:14 AM Re: BFG's or Toyo's? [Re: MrOutdoors1]
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Registered: 03/19/01
Posts: 106
Loc: Rochester WA
Just put my second set of Toyos to my 04 dodge 2500 cummins. First set went 71000. Secret is in religous rotation. Every oil change was accomanied w/ a visit to uncle les for swap and balance.
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