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#479410 - 01/13/09 01:30 AM Obama Ammunition Registration?
D-Squared Offline
Smolt

Registered: 07/17/05
Posts: 82
Loc: Everett, WA
No wonder I can not find reloading components for my up coming PD hunt to Wyoming. And the f'ing dem's had the balls to call Bush Hitler. Stock-up while you can boys.
D-squared

Ammunition Accountability Act
Remember how Obama said that he wasn't going to take your guns?
Well, it seems that his minions and allies in the anti-gun world have no problem with taking your ammo!
The bill that is being pushed in 18 states (including TN, Illinois and Indiana ) requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacture, a data base of all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and what calibers. Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the ammunition is coded.
Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011. (Including handloaded ammo.) They will also charge a .05 cent tax on every round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or more! If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your gun!
Please give this the widest distribution possible and contact your Reps!
It's the ammo, not the guns....
I've said for a long time that they wouldn't go for your guns, they'd go for your ammo... guns have a Constitutional protection. Ammo does not. A list of states where this legislation is pending is in the final paragraph. Not in CO yet, they'll go where the pansies are first.
Heads up to all of you who swore to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign AND domestic. Let your state Legislatures know that we do not want this bill passed, and petition them to vote no on this bill. We should keep after them until the bill is closed by bombarding them with e-mails, phone calls, and letters.
Get to all your politicians to get to work and NOT LET THIS HAPPEN!!! The 2008 Legislative session has begun, and the Ammunition Accountability Act is being introduced across the country. Below is a list of states where legislation has already been introduced:
Alabama, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington.

More information can be found at:

http://www.ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm

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#479414 - 01/13/09 02:04 AM Re: Obama Ammunition Registration? [Re: D-Squared]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Obama is in charge of state legislatures now?
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#479421 - 01/13/09 04:51 AM Re: Obama Ammunition Registration? [Re: Dan S.]
Dogfish Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10878
Loc: McCleary, WA
Ammunition coding legislation is being pushed by a Washington company who makes the coding machinery. Asshattery at it's finest, and also old news. Maybe they think they can get is passed.

Can't blame this one on Obama, unless he embraces it.

Saw a recent ad for FN (Fabrique Nationale) that assailed against Mayor 5 pennies in Seattle and his need for a gun ban. Nickels is a fawkin' joke, along with anyone who would support this type of feel good legislation. Punish the god damned criminals and stop letting them back out. Put a few more people to death, actually a lot more, and enforce the laws we already have. I always wonder about these dipshit laws. Did somebody get high one night and think this stuff up?

Not too worried about his ammo coding deal. Been stocking up on reloading components, except for .45 and .40 projectiles. Might have to switch Pretty much have enought for a lifetime or three (Me and the boys).


Edited by Dogfish (01/13/09 06:27 PM)
Edit Reason: Can't instead of can
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#479437 - 01/13/09 11:38 AM Re: Obama Ammunition Registration? [Re: Dogfish]
stlhead Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
About encoding ammo....not that it will ever happen....I'm curious why "responsible gun owners" would be against that? I mean in an ideal world sense meaning no additonal cost. Are you planning to get away with murder? Seems to me it would be a good compromise. Help law enforcement enforce the laws and law abiding citizens would have nothing to worry about. If you are worried about being in a database where have you been and why didn't you raise hell against the Bush admin?
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#479439 - 01/13/09 11:44 AM Re: Obama Ammunition Registration? [Re: stlhead]
John Lee Hookum Offline
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Registered: 10/12/01
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Loc: Area 51
Originally Posted By: stlhead
About encoding ammo....not that it will ever happen....I'm curious why "responsible gun owners" would be against that? I mean in an ideal world sense meaning no additonal cost. Are you planning to get away with murder? Seems to me it would be a good compromise. Help law enforcement enforce the laws and law abiding citizens would have nothing to worry about. If you are worried about being in a database where have you been and why didn't you raise hell against the Bush admin?


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#479441 - 01/13/09 11:50 AM Re: Obama Ammunition Registration? [Re: D-Squared]
Illahee Offline
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Registered: 05/22/05
Posts: 3771
It's customary in this country to first wait until the new President actually takes office, before blaming him for everything you don't like.

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#479452 - 01/13/09 01:22 PM Re: Obama Ammunition Registration? [Re: Illahee]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
It's also customary to blame state legislators for state laws that are passed.

D Squared was his grade in US Government class I guess.

I'm not sure I'd have a problem with this legislation if I trusted the government. But I don't, so I do.
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#479458 - 01/13/09 02:55 PM Re: Obama Ammunition Registration? [Re: Dan S.]
4Salt Offline
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Registered: 03/07/00
Posts: 2955
Loc: Lynnwood, WA
It's also customary for right-wing extremists to believe ANYTHING and EVERYTHING FOX News, the NRA and Rush Limbaugh tells 'em. doh
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#479472 - 01/13/09 04:13 PM Re: Obama Ammunition Registration? [Re: 4Salt]
Mikespike Offline
MPD

Registered: 01/02/08
Posts: 2544
Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
That homo-commie-jew FDR did it!

Not only did I just trump "the Clinton's did it", I think I just raised/lowered the bar for excellence in kool-aid consumption.

And if you are so slow that you don't realize that the government already tracks where ammo is sold and to whom, well, you probably started this post. doh
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#479474 - 01/13/09 04:22 PM Re: Obama Ammunition Registration? [Re: stlhead]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
Hippie

Registered: 01/31/02
Posts: 4450
Loc: B'ham
Originally Posted By: stlhead
If you are worried about being in a database where have you been and why didn't you raise hell against the Bush admin?


Exactly. You all deserve what you get now. Shiat, D-Squared, I hope they are checking you because you sound a little terroristish.

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#479489 - 01/13/09 06:00 PM Re: Obama Ammunition Registration? [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
Irie Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 4317
Loc: South Sound
It's all George Washington's fault!!

He started this whole mess in the first place!

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#479517 - 01/13/09 09:27 PM Re: Obama Ammunition Registration? [Re: Irie]
Oregonian Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
So...when I go buy a box of shells and pay with cash, some how Uncle Sugar knows ?

LOL ! Right.

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#479543 - 01/13/09 11:50 PM Re: Obama Ammunition Registration? [Re: Oregonian]
Chuck E Offline
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Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 1832
Loc: Kitsap Peninsula
"when I go buy a box of shells and pay with cash, some how Uncle Sugar knows ?"

Of course. The rules set up by Homeland Security requires your dentist to take swab from each patient and it's analyzed, digitized and categorized and kept on file. The bills you paid with have traces of your DNA.
They know.
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#479585 - 01/14/09 11:41 AM Re: Obama Ammunition Registration? [Re: Chuck E]
stlhead Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
Thus the term "money laundering' and why it's illegal. Washing your DNA off the money keeps the spooks off your trail and they don't take kindly to that.
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#479598 - 01/14/09 01:15 PM Re: Obama Ammunition Registration? [Re: Oregonian]
Mikespike Offline
MPD

Registered: 01/02/08
Posts: 2544
Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
Originally Posted By: Oregonian
So...when I go buy a box of shells and pay with cash, some how Uncle Sugar knows ?

LOL ! Right.


All stores have video surveillance now. Your cash receipt has a time/date stamp. Unless you're purchasing from "midnight ammo sales" rofl
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#479600 - 01/14/09 02:35 PM Re: Obama Ammunition Registration? [Re: Mikespike]
Oregonian Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
Black helicopters too ?

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#479601 - 01/14/09 02:36 PM Re: Obama Ammunition Registration? [Re: Mikespike]
litlcleo Offline
shiny thingy

Registered: 12/22/08
Posts: 134
Loc: hood canal
Actually I think I read that the seller is required to take your name date of sale etc.I believe the vendor is required to keep these records for 7 years.So I am guessing the serial number is traced to the vendor and from the vendor to the criminal? That will curb crime.
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#479602 - 01/14/09 03:01 PM Re: Obama Ammunition Registration? [Re: Oregonian]
Mikespike Offline
MPD

Registered: 01/02/08
Posts: 2544
Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
Originally Posted By: Oregonian
Black helicopters too ?


No, that was only in the movie Goodfellas wink

I did dust off my tin/aluminum foil hat when I saw this thread though....
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#479655 - 01/14/09 09:23 PM Re: Obama Ammunition Registration? [Re: Mikespike]
Irie Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 4317
Loc: South Sound
I'm waiting for some kook to post something about "Chemtrails."

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#479706 - 01/15/09 09:22 AM Re: Obama Ammunition Registration? [Re: Irie]
stlhead Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
"Chemtrails."

Wherever Dan S. has been.
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