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#480595 - 01/19/09 08:38 PM Obama love fest
Tatonka Offline
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170 mil for his coronation..er I mean inauguration???? in these times?
170 mil could save a lot of peoples homes, health and provide a lot of food for the needy.

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#480599 - 01/19/09 08:52 PM Re: Obama love fest [Re: Tatonka]
fish4brains Offline
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Originally Posted By: Tatonka
170 mil for his coronation..er I mean inauguration???? in these times?
170 mil could save a lot of peoples homes, health and provide a lot of food for the needy.


If that's how you really feel, I'd be more worried about the Yankees payroll.
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#480607 - 01/19/09 08:59 PM Re: Obama love fest [Re: fish4brains]
Tatonka Offline
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Yankees payroll is not taxpayer funded, whereas the bulk of that 170 mil IS taxpayer funded. Don't give a rat's azz about the Yankees..Just saying those dollars could be put to better use rather than inflating Obama's aready close to exploding ego.

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#480615 - 01/19/09 09:20 PM Re: Obama love fest [Re: ]
Tatonka Offline
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49 mil from federal coffers plus an additional 75 mil in federal funds requested for security and medical services from DC, Virginia and Maryland. 124 mil total TAXPAYER dollars.

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#480618 - 01/19/09 09:25 PM Re: Obama love fest [Re: Tatonka]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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The Yanks can spend 180 mil on their payroll because taxpayers fund thier stadium.

But you already knew that.

If they found that "missing" 40 billion in Iraq, they could pay for the inauguration, and have a bunch left over for the homes and food for the poor that you're worried about.
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#480623 - 01/19/09 09:31 PM Re: Obama love fest [Re: Dan S.]
Vic Offline
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Hell he is already as great a president at Abe Lincoln, and FDR. So I guess it is worth it. Maximum sarcasm implied

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#480626 - 01/19/09 09:34 PM Re: Obama love fest [Re: Dan S.]
Tatonka Offline
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Yea well nobody is annointing the Yankees the Leader Of The Free World either. Im not talking about just the poor, Im talking about average joes who lose their jobs to outsourcing,downsizing etc. therefore losing thier homes as well. But again many of the poor are waiting for the Messiah to pay their mortgages for them.

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#480629 - 01/19/09 09:40 PM Re: Obama love fest [Re: Tatonka]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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You sound a little bitter.

Look at it this way........if Obama succeeds, we all benefit. If he fails, we all lose.

So, would you rather he succed and we reap the benefits.......or fail so you can point and laugh while the nation wallows in deeper misery?
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#480631 - 01/19/09 09:43 PM Re: Obama love fest [Re: Dan S.]
Tatonka Offline
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Hey if he pulls it off...kudos will rain down upon His countenance.. I will be pleasantly surprised if he does. and who but an absolute jackass will laugh at more misery heaped upon us all?

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#480634 - 01/19/09 09:48 PM Re: Obama love fest [Re: Tatonka]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
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Exactly.

And good for you. I mean, he's already been elected, so now it's a wait & see thing.

I didn't vote for him, but I hope he's successful.
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#480637 - 01/19/09 09:53 PM Re: Obama love fest [Re: Dan S.]
Tatonka Offline
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I didn't vote for him either, but I hope he can right the ship. Just not sure he has "the right stuff".

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#480638 - 01/19/09 10:00 PM Re: Obama love fest [Re: Vic]
fish4brains Offline
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Originally Posted By: Vic
Hell he is already as great a president at Abe Lincoln, and FDR. So I guess it is worth it. Maximum sarcasm implied


News Flash! he's not the president yet.
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#480643 - 01/19/09 10:08 PM Re: Obama love fest [Re: fish4brains]
Vic Offline
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No kidding... You obviously haven't been listening to the Obamanites who are already saying these things about him.

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#480644 - 01/19/09 10:09 PM Re: Obama love fest [Re: Vic]
Vic Offline
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and you missed the "maximum sarcasm implied" part.

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#480652 - 01/19/09 10:32 PM Re: Obama love fest [Re: Vic]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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You sound similar to liberals that listen to Rush. Are you trying to get worked up? You are the one "listening to the Obamanite". Change your source.

And half of Tatonka's post are on this thread... and this is a fishing board. rofl

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#480655 - 01/19/09 10:35 PM Re: Obama love fest [Re: Tatonka]
goharley Offline
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Originally Posted By: Tatonka
170 mil could save a lot of peoples homes, health and provide a lot of food for the needy.
I trust you sent these same sentiments to bush while he was wasting billions in Iraq?


I didn't think so.
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#480666 - 01/19/09 10:51 PM Re: Obama love fest [Re: goharley]
Irie Offline
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Originally Posted By: goharley
Originally Posted By: Tatonka
170 mil could save a lot of peoples homes, health and provide a lot of food for the needy.
I trust you sent these same sentiments to bush while he was wasting billions in Iraq?


I didn't think so.


'Zactly!

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#480678 - 01/19/09 11:00 PM Re: Obama love fest [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
Vic Offline
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Actually I don't listen to Rush. But there has been a number of news outlets making these insane comparisons, when as someone mentioned above, he hasn't even been inaugurated yet. Do a google search "Barack Obama FDR Comparisons" and see how much crap comes up.

Here I will save you some time


http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,20081124,00.html

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20081211/EDIT02/812110318/-1/today

Here is an Abe Lincoln for ya

http://www.usnews.com/articles/opinion/2...am-lincoln.html


It cracks me up to see all these people make comparisons, and hear how he is going to bring "Change". Well get ready tomorrow we will get to see how another member of the same 2 political parties we have always voted for really changes things.


Edited by Vic (01/19/09 11:03 PM)

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#480684 - 01/19/09 11:05 PM Re: Obama love fest [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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Originally Posted By: Kaiser D.


And half of Tatonka's post are on this thread... and this is a fishing board. rofl





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#480708 - 01/19/09 11:50 PM Re: Obama love fest [Re: hohbomb73]
Dogfish Offline
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Well, I wish him he best. I hope he doesn't dissapoint us. Unfortunately people are setting the bar VERY high for him.

Make it through these 4 years alive, with the economy somewhat intact, and get us out of Iraq. I'd call that a draw.

While he's at it, I'd love to see him carpet bomb Wiziristan until nothing lived there, just to make sure they found Osama bin Laden dead. Do that and I'll call it a win.
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#480717 - 01/20/09 12:08 AM Re: Obama love fest [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
Tatonka Offline
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Registered: 01/17/09
Posts: 57
Originally Posted By: Kaiser D.
You sound similar to liberals that listen to Rush. Are you trying to get worked up? You are the one "listening to the Obamanite". Change your source.

And half of Tatonka's post are on this thread... and this is a fishing board. rofl


Maybe it is a fishing board, but this IS the dark side...life BEYOND fishing.

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#480724 - 01/20/09 12:41 AM Re: Obama love fest [Re: Tatonka]
Magicfly Offline
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Posts: 3359
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Election's are over.....

Time to put differences aside, and support Obama.

That's until 2012, Sarah Palin! smile

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#480736 - 01/20/09 01:05 AM Re: Obama love fest [Re: Magicfly]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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Registered: 01/31/02
Posts: 4450
Loc: B'ham
Do a google search "Barack Obama Devil Comparisons" and see how much crap comes up.


Use the google.

Do searches.

See how much crap comes up.

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#480741 - 01/20/09 01:16 AM Re: Obama love fest [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
Vic Offline
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Dude.... Time magazine!!! Come on!!!

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#480803 - 01/20/09 10:15 AM Re: Obama love fest [Re: ]
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I suppose ya'll have good reason to fear "change" after the last 8 years of "change".
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#480817 - 01/20/09 11:25 AM Re: Obama love fest [Re: stlhead]
Dogfish Offline
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The only constant thing in this country is change.
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#480829 - 01/20/09 11:40 AM Re: Obama love fest [Re: Tatonka]
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Originally Posted By: Tatonka
Yankees payroll is not taxpayer funded, whereas the bulk of that 170 mil IS taxpayer funded. Don't give a rat's azz about the Yankees..Just saying those dollars could be put to better use rather than inflating Obama's aready close to exploding ego.


Actually, all four major sports leagues are subsidized due to corporate welfare tax breaks. They are allowed to claim approximately $1 billion in tax breaks against $600 million in expenses. I don't have the article in front of me, but you get the idea - you can verify the level of rape at your liesure mad My favorite muckraking magazine Mother Jones has an entire issue devoted to the world ahead and corporate welfare is one of many topics.
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#480831 - 01/20/09 11:43 AM Re: Obama love fest [Re: Mikespike]
Irie Offline
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Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 4317
Loc: South Sound
Originally Posted By: Mikespike
Originally Posted By: Tatonka
Yankees payroll is not taxpayer funded, whereas the bulk of that 170 mil IS taxpayer funded. Don't give a rat's azz about the Yankees..Just saying those dollars could be put to better use rather than inflating Obama's aready close to exploding ego.


Actually, all four major sports leagues are subsidized due to corporate welfare tax breaks. They are allowed to claim approximately $1 billion in tax breaks against $600 million in expenses. I don't have the article in front of me, but you get the idea - you can verify the level of rape at your liesure mad My favorite muckraking magazine Mother Jones has an entire issue devoted to the world ahead and corporate welfare is one of many topics.



Have Washington taxpayers paid off "Corporate Logo/$15 beer Field" yet?

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#480837 - 01/20/09 11:55 AM Re: Obama love fest [Re: Irie]
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Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 1016
Loc: Napavine,Washington
Can anyone tell me how much it cost for the last 2 inaugurations? Now we really got our moneys worth there. How much of an increase for this one compared to the others? Maybe now the GOP and Rush will quit blaming everything on the Clintons, but I doubt it.

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#480842 - 01/20/09 12:01 PM Re: Obama love fest [Re: Irie]
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Quote:
The only constant thing in this country is change.


That goes for us as individuals, as well as the entire world and Universe. Nothing stays the same. We are born, get married, have children, lose a spouse or love one's then we get sick and eventually die. Same for the entire world and Universe. Change is a certainty. The change that we influence is the change that I'm concerned with the rest i am powerless over. Can I make a difference and try to direct change in a more life affirming and positive direction that reduces suffering in this world. That is my concern regarding change and I hope that it remains a theme for President Obama's as well. agree
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#480844 - 01/20/09 12:05 PM Re: Obama love fest [Re: Irie]
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Originally Posted By: Irie
Originally Posted By: Mikespike
Originally Posted By: Tatonka
Yankees payroll is not taxpayer funded, whereas the bulk of that 170 mil IS taxpayer funded. Don't give a rat's azz about the Yankees..Just saying those dollars could be put to better use rather than inflating Obama's aready close to exploding ego.


Actually, all four major sports leagues are subsidized due to corporate welfare tax breaks. They are allowed to claim approximately $1 billion in tax breaks against $600 million in expenses. I don't have the article in front of me, but you get the idea - you can verify the level of rape at your liesure mad My favorite muckraking magazine Mother Jones has an entire issue devoted to the world ahead and corporate welfare is one of many topics.



Have Washington taxpayers paid off "Corporate Logo/$15 beer Field" yet?


Yeah, team owners build stadiums because they lose so much money building them! I think the presidency is sponsored by Audi by the way, at least that's all I could see when trying to get the inaugeral online!!!
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#480848 - 01/20/09 12:11 PM Re: Obama love fest [Re: Mikespike]
Irie Offline
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Originally Posted By: Mikespike
Originally Posted By: Irie
Originally Posted By: Mikespike
[quote=Tatonka]Yankees payroll is not taxpayer funded, whereas the bulk of that 170 mil IS taxpayer funded. Don't give a rat's azz about the Yankees..Just saying those dollars could be put to better use rather than inflating Obama's aready close to exploding ego.


Actually, all four major sports leagues are subsidized due to corporate welfare tax breaks. They are allowed to claim approximately $1 billion in tax breaks against $600 million in expenses. I don't have the article in front of me, but you get the idea - you can verify the level of rape at your liesure mad My favorite muckraking magazine Mother Jones has an entire issue devoted to the world ahead and corporate welfare is one of many topics.



Have Washington taxpayers paid off "Corporate Logo/$15 beer Field" yet?


Yeah, team owners build stadiums because they lose so much money building them! I think the presidency is sponsored by Audi by the way, at least that's all I could see when trying to get the inaugeral online!!! [/quote]

Check your spelling and Google it again. wink

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#480863 - 01/20/09 12:48 PM Re: Obama love fest [Re: Irie]
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I spelled "Audi" correctly grin
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#481035 - 01/20/09 08:48 PM Re: Obama love fest [Re: Mikespike]
wntrrn Offline
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$750 millionj raised to win the election. And the job pays what.... ?500k/year. Makes you wonder.

I think he'll do a good job but it's pretty ridiculous the amount of money spent to win any office these days.
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#481180 - 01/21/09 11:04 AM Re: Obama love fest [Re: wntrrn]
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In a few short days, an African American man will move from his private residence into a much larger and infinitely more expensive one owned not by him but by the taxpayers. A vast lawn, a perimeter fence and many well trained security specialists will insulate him from the rest of us but the mere fact that this man will be residing in this house should make us all stop and count or blessings - because it proves that we live in a nation where anything is possible.
Many believed this day would never come. Most of us hoped and prayed that it would, but few of us actually believed we would live to see it. Racism is an ugly thing in all of it's forms and there is little doubt that if this man had moved into this house fifteen years ago, there would have been a great outcry - possibly even rioting in the streets.
Today, we can all be both grateful and proud that no such mayhem will take place when this man takes up residency in this house.
This man, moving into this house at this time in our nation's history is much more than a simple change of addresses for him - it is proof of a change in our attitude as a nation. It is an amends of sorts - the righting of a great wrong. It is a symbol of our growth, and of our willingness to "judge a man, not by the color of his skin but by the content of his character".
There can be little doubt now that the vast majority of us truly believe that this man has earned both his place in history and his new address. His time in this house will not be easy - it will be fraught with danger and he will face many challenges. I am sure there will be many times when he asks himself how in the world he ended up here and like all who have gone before him, the experience will age him greatly.
But I for one will not waste an ounce of worry for his sake - because in every way a man can, he asked for this. His whole life for the past fifteen years appears to have been inexorably leading this man toward this house. It is highly probable that in the past, despite all of his actions, racism would have kept this man out of this house. Today, I thank the lord above that I am an American and that I live in a nation where wrongs are righted, where justice matters and where truly anything is possible.

Who is this man? you ask. You think you know, don't you?


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#481182 - 01/21/09 11:12 AM Re: Obama love fest [Re: Irie]
Mikespike Offline
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Registered: 01/02/08
Posts: 2544
Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
Originally Posted By: Irie
Originally Posted By: Mikespike
Originally Posted By: Tatonka
Yankees payroll is not taxpayer funded, whereas the bulk of that 170 mil IS taxpayer funded. Don't give a rat's azz about the Yankees..Just saying those dollars could be put to better use rather than inflating Obama's aready close to exploding ego.


Actually, all four major sports leagues are subsidized due to corporate welfare tax breaks. They are allowed to claim approximately $1 billion in tax breaks against $600 million in expenses. I don't have the article in front of me, but you get the idea - you can verify the level of rape at your liesure mad My favorite muckraking magazine Mother Jones has an entire issue devoted to the world ahead and corporate welfare is one of many topics.



Have Washington taxpayers paid off "Corporate Logo/$15 beer Field" yet?


Okay, looked up the article this morning and here are the correct stats:

MLB, NHL, NBA, NFL have combined profits of $1.6 billion (according to Forbes) and receive $2 billion in subsidies! This was before the mayor and Uncle Sam gave the Yankees $865 million!!!

In 2006, the guy that bought the Washington Nationals for approx. $485 million will get $1 billion in subsidies over the next two decades. I guess the $15 beer is intended to get fans to "drink responsibly"...

This doesn't even touch the tip of the iceberg with corporate welfare. Is anyone else out there feeling raped yet? We Americans deserve relief from unequal taxation, it is truly criminal what has happened to our economy, and consequently, our standard of living. Unfortunately, this is still the best place in the world to live.
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