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#484365 - 02/02/09 11:04 AM Re: Obama's new stimulus package [Re: ParaLeaks]
kevin lund Offline
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We've already lost 2 million jobs in the USA. It is expected that we are going to lose 3 Million more. How in Gods name are the government paid employees going to get enough money in taxes to pay their salaries? It's a double edged deal with very little hope.

The money needs to stay where it can do some good, in the hands of the tax payers. they are the ones who are going to stimulate this economy. When was the last time any government agency created a profit without taxing you to death. At some point the Government needs to be overthrown. With all the working people of america taking it in the shorts, so must the Government.
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#484399 - 02/02/09 01:56 PM Re: new stimulus package [Re: kevin lund]
Illahee Offline
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Originally Posted By: kevin lund
We've already lost 2 million jobs in the USA. It is expected that we are going to lose 3 Million more. How in Gods name are the government paid employees going to get enough money in taxes to pay their salaries? It's a double edged deal with very little hope.

The money needs to stay where it can do some good, in the hands of the tax payers. they are the ones who are going to stimulate this economy. When was the last time any government agency created a profit without taxing you to death. At some point the Government needs to be overthrown. With all the working people of america taking it in the shorts, so must the Government.



Have you ever heard of the Internal Revenue Service, or the Bonneville Power Authority?
Why is it that the people who were perfectly fine with our country invading Iraq and running up our countries defect to over a trillion dollars, now piss and moan about rebuilding our countries infrastructure?

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#484405 - 02/02/09 02:12 PM Re: new stimulus package [Re: Illahee]
Dan S. Offline
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Bush-loving ballwashers.

Simple as that.
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#484462 - 02/02/09 05:45 PM Re: new stimulus package [Re: ]
kevin lund Offline
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Europe just went through this bailout with their economic system and it failed badly. Now the US is gonna repeat history. What a genius idea!
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#484466 - 02/02/09 05:56 PM Re: new stimulus package [Re: Illahee]
kevin lund Offline
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Have you ever heard of the Internal Revenue Service, or the Bonneville Power Authority?
Why is it that the people who were perfectly fine with our country invading Iraq and running up our countries defect to over a trillion dollars, now piss and moan about rebuilding our countries infrastructure?


With the workforce diminishing daily, who is gonna pay the taxes to the IRS so they can build the infastructure? The Dems just think they will print more money and you can work it off someday. It doesn't work that way. That's why the dollar isn't worth the cloth it is printed on today. Unemploymet is at it's highest level since the 1920's Everything is falling in value and some of you honestly believe that throwing money at is is going to help it recover. It's not a cold that you can treat with a pill. That only makes the dollar worth less. Get a clue, it has nothig to do with Bush. It has to do with greedy americans and wreckless spending.
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#484468 - 02/02/09 06:14 PM Re: new stimulus package [Re: kevin lund]
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Originally Posted By: Lund
it has nothig to do with Bush. It has to do with greedy americans and wreckless spending.


Really? Is that what happened?

Did greedy Americans spend 4+ trillion on a war in Iraq?
Did greedy Americans deregulate the banking industry so the CDS market could turn into a 60 trillion dollar monster?
Did greedy Americans and their VISA cards take the whole world's economies down as well?

If by "greedy Americans" you mean the tools from the GOP that you've been voting for, and the DNC that the "other guy" voted for, then you're right. If you're blaming this catastrophe on the average American citizen, then you're the one who needs to grab a clue.

Who's going to pay for it? You are. And your kids. And probably your grandkids. But that's what happens when people rely on talk radio as their source of information, and vote accordingly.
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#484470 - 02/02/09 06:19 PM Re: new stimulus package [Re: Dan S.]
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Dan S-

What is it with these people, ignorance or apathy? I don't know, and I don't care rofl wink

I've gone off politics now - I'm pro-accordion, and I vote.


Edited by Mikespike (02/02/09 06:19 PM)
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#484472 - 02/02/09 06:25 PM Re: new stimulus package [Re: ]
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Unemployment numbers, current and historical highs.

http://www.bls.gov/web/lauhsthl.htm

Like I was saying, Lund needs to find some new sources of info.
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#484477 - 02/02/09 06:32 PM Re: new stimulus package [Re: ]
Dan S. Offline
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It took all of 30 seconds to find that info.

Must have been too much trouble.
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#484478 - 02/02/09 06:33 PM Re: new stimulus package [Re: Dan S.]
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Since when is the US Dept. of Labor a credible source Dan? wink
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#484480 - 02/02/09 06:36 PM Re: new stimulus package [Re: ]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
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Sorry Mike........I'm having trouble reading your post with my tinfoil helmet on. smile
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#484485 - 02/02/09 06:40 PM Re: new stimulus package [Re: ]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
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Loc: SE Olympia, WA
I'm still waiting for the "whitey tape" to surface.
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#484488 - 02/02/09 06:46 PM Re: new stimulus package [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Why do all you guys hate America so much?

Fish on...

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#484492 - 02/02/09 06:58 PM Re: new stimulus package [Re: ]
kevin lund Offline
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Care to explain to the wingnuts of the world how this stimulus package is going to kick our economy in gear? Building the infastructure is putting money from your pockets into government and state work contract. The private sector benefits from this how? How does the guy who works at intel, microsoft,lumbermans, Valley plumbing, and so on. We have roads to drive on, they may be rough or out of style, but they work. Who needs million dollar lawn to get by in life?
How has your job been effected by the slow economy Dan, Todd and KK?
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#484493 - 02/02/09 07:05 PM Re: new stimulus package [Re: kevin lund]
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If it was not for physics and the law... I would be un-stoppable
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#484494 - 02/02/09 07:06 PM Re: new stimulus package [Re: kevin lund]
Todd Offline
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It's taken a big chunk out of one business, but hasn't really hurt the other...in fact, it may have actually improved the fishing tackle business, at least for now.

All those infrastructure jobs perform a lot of functions...besides fixing or building things we need, they employ a lot of people to do it. All the supplies that they use to build something don't come from some Government warehouse somewhere, they come from local suppliers where they are going to be doing the work.

That money will get spread out quite a bit.

I don't know to what it extent it will help, but it's not like the money just goes back into Government coffers for building road signs...

Fish on...

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#484495 - 02/02/09 07:06 PM Re: new stimulus package [Re: B-RUN STEELY]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Originally Posted By: B-RUN STEELY
If it was not for physics and the law... I would be un-stoppable


Excellent point!

Get yer ass out here in April, Brent!

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#484500 - 02/02/09 07:15 PM Re: new stimulus package [Re: Todd]
Dan S. Offline
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Quantum physics says you ARE unstoppable, BRUN..........we just need to establish the probability.

The law thing could still be a problem, though.

So tell me, Kevin.........would the economy be better off spending 4 trillion on our infrastructure, putting peole back to work and putting money into the pockets of those who design, build, and supply those projects OR by spending multiple billions on the infrastructure and security of Iraq? Because I don't remember you ever saying a peep about those expenditures.

Is there some reason that you were silent about Bush's drunken spending spree, but you're very vocal about Obama's spending plans?

Party first, country second kind of guy?
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#484504 - 02/02/09 07:19 PM Re: new stimulus package [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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You mean the Gubmint doesn't build the planes and missiles itself?
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#484508 - 02/02/09 07:26 PM Re: new stimulus package [Re: ]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
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Ask Boehner about how Bush and 6 of 8 years of a GOP congress added 5 trillion dollars to our national debt, and what the interest on that will cost the taxpayers.

5 trillion > 1 trillion

Boehner should STFU.
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