Thats got to be one of the stupidest fuggin' posts ever.

You hope someone gets cancer over a god damn fish.

What's done is done. I don't agree with killing nate's, but I am not going to wish the guy bad luck or otherwise.

It's simple really.....Change the law so that it wont happen again.

We've come a long way on the native retention laws...just a few short years ago you could kill one per day on lots of streams...now it's down to one per year, and only on a handful of streams.

Until that loophole is closed, our best bet is to educate our fellow anglers to not do it, even if the law allows it...and wishing ass cancer on them probably isn't the best way to go about it.

There is virtually no chance that the fish has spawned, ever. Statistically speaking, zero bucks repeat spawn. That's not to say that they don't, but statistically all repeat spawners are hens...they drop their eggs and head out, while the bucks literally stay in the river all spring spawning until they die...it's what they do.

Fish on...

Todd

A great person and angler passes away and ten people post there regrets.A wild fish is killed and we are on page 4.

I saw it, A monster for sure, the guy was holding it up for us to see. He caught it swinging his spey rod from the bank, unguided. I am sure he will regret killing this fish, but it is legal. I think this 1 wild fish per year has created a trophy bonking mentality. It is common in these waters to hear people talking about saving their punch card for a trophy. I saw a 19 and a 22 lb wild fish bonked the day before the 30 was harvested, and have heard of several in the 20-25 lb range bonked in the past month.

The fish stomping was out of control yesterday down at the mouth of the Hoh. A fish checker told me they had about 15-20 fish trying to come up the riffle below Barlows, and about 10 guys were chasing the fish back down into the hole so they could "catch" them.

Matt

Careful what you all wish for..........

Most of our rivers are closed due to the lack of retention laws from March 15th through April 15th.

Do I condone killing a native steelhead, heck no. It's a shame to see.

Keith

again just to be clear i dont and have not bonked natives although i have had many chances.i am all for c&r them. and i agree running baite hooked deep cut line rather that try and pull the hooks out. i wasn't saying it was a bleeder more that someone fishing for there first time seeing one bleeding bad would presume it to be a goner. not saying its right just at the time of the post, giving the guy bennifit of the dought as to why he bonkd it. rather than what it turned out to be a lip caught fish that was in the wrong place at the wrong time. its a bummber

Gilly's post puts this event into unfortunate perspective.

I'm not sure if I even WANNA see the pic LD.

I'd give the guy a pass card on this one, since it was his first steelhead. I was there once.

In fact, I feel like I'm there NOW. A little sore in the meat from a 4 trip skunk streak. The next tug is gonna feel like my first steelhead all over again again,

fb

I doubt if the guy was spey fishing on the HOH it was his 1st Nate I call BS !!!PEACE

Rookie.

I earned the coveted Skunk Ace award with #5 yesterday....

Stam's a Tripple Skunk Ace!!!!

Why would you doubt he was Spey fishing? I saw him the day before swingin his spey rod. And the day he had the fish, it was the only rod he had with him.

Matt

ya but steve's fishing beaver crik this weekend...
I wont let him fail!
assuming he fails the first leg of the trip....... and if thats the case then man we'll have our work cut out!

Because no one, especially spey rookies, catch fish that large the first time they pick up and use a spey rod........

i have no problem with someone keeping thier ONE nate a year. the runs on the coast can support it no dout. and its not like every single one of us are over there keeping out ONE nate a year.

a few people wont make a huge difference. AND its not like every single nate being kept by people is coming out of one river.

now a fish that size was more then likely kept to be mounted sure. but 5-10lb natives being kept are more then likely for food. and people gotta eat.

A few people wont make a huge difference, but its not just a "few" people fishing anymore.... Don't doubt the ability of our fellow anglers to catch every damn fish in the river, both guided and unguided.... If all of the guides on the OP kept every fish caught over the course of a season, it would be a slaughter... It already is a slaughter.
Parker... I still think it was you breaking your skunk under cover....

If the fish had been released, it would so have been me! I can totally see The Chosen One picking up the spey rod for the first time in over a year, make a cast or two, and have another 30 pounder pick up a skated spey dry fly this time.

I'll let the "dout" slide, but it does seem ironic that you can't spell because the above is one of the LEAST educated things said on this thread so far...

The Hoh does not meet escapement (when is the last time it DID?); its "runs" cannot support over harvest.


...Just because you think it does not make it SO. Just because the law says it's OK, doesn't mean it IS.

Originally Posted By: dbl spey
I'll pray that bad karma crap like whacking a 30lb native is the fast path to get a$$ cancer...


Thats got to be one of the stupidest fuggin' posts ever.

You hope someone gets cancer over a god damn fish.

Did not mean to hit a nerve...killing nates seems like crap to me. People who do shitty things have shitting things happen to them. Only he knows what/why he killed the fish, life will sort out the consequences (if any) I'm not the judge, I dont have the cancer wand.

well then i was mistaken. i thought they did meet escapement...i thought that was the reasoning for them having a 1 native limit a year on those certain rivers.

and not every person over there is gonna keep a native fish. i know i sure wont and BUT i dont have a problem with people doing so if they choose. it is legal to do so, be it right or not. that is for each person to decided.

as far as me being stupid abu-loomis. personal comments like that are not needed.

I for one am sad to read such reports. The depletion of a precious resource is no excuse for one's ego. Legal or not, what's done is done, but that fish should have been released to give it a chance to pass on it's genes to the next generation. Wishing ill will upon the ignorant will not help them.