#492520 - 03/03/09 03:38 PM
Re: It only took Obama 40 days to.
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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I'm not a 'party first, country second' kind of guy.
I didn't figure you'd understand.
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#492523 - 03/03/09 03:41 PM
Re: It only took Obama 40 days to.
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Spawner
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I'm not a 'party first, country second' kind of guy.
I didn't figure you'd understand. right.....
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#492532 - 03/03/09 03:54 PM
Re: It only took Obama 40 days to.
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River Nutrients
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You give me a headache Dewmie
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#492537 - 03/03/09 04:12 PM
Re: It only took Obama 40 days to.
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You give me a headache Dewmie right on
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#492543 - 03/03/09 04:26 PM
Re: It only took Obama 40 days to.
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MPD
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how exactly am i a party first country second dude? All I can tell you is I'm a work first, party after kinda guy. I even fish once in a while
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#492551 - 03/03/09 04:51 PM
Re: It only took Obama 40 days to.
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River Nutrients
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Can we democratically vote away Dewbie's right to a refresh button?
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#492556 - 03/03/09 05:01 PM
Re: It only took Obama 40 days to.
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River Nutrients
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You have an opinion? Where?
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#492575 - 03/03/09 05:35 PM
Re: It only took Obama 40 days to.
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Ron Paul favors abolishing the 17th ammendment.
What about direct election of Senators do you find disturbing ? i feel the 17th amendment gives more power to the government...obviously i dont like more government control....
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#492588 - 03/03/09 05:48 PM
Re: It only took Obama 40 days to.
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MPD
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Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
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It takes power away from state government, and transfers that power to the electorate.
Unfortunately, we are only offered turds or pigs with lipstick to vote for, or in our case, the terminator. PS the terminator is our gov. not a senator, but still a turd like our other choices
Edited by Mikespike (03/03/09 05:51 PM)
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#492589 - 03/03/09 05:49 PM
Re: It only took Obama 40 days to.
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It takes power away from state government, and transfers that power to the electorate.
which means that the power goes federal rather then in the state, which is more government control. i would rather keep the power in the state.
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#492591 - 03/03/09 05:52 PM
Re: It only took Obama 40 days to.
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MPD
Registered: 01/02/08
Posts: 2544
Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
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Dewb- we the people are "the electorate" - that stuff is train wrecking your brain!
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#492598 - 03/03/09 05:58 PM
Re: It only took Obama 40 days to.
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Spawner
Registered: 01/30/09
Posts: 849
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this is on ron paul's site
Repeal The 17th Amendment
Posted December 19th, 2007 by SeanW
ANOTHER reason to vote for Ron Paul. And, if you understand it, a good argument to provide your friends.
Originally all Senators were elected by each State's elected officials. United States Senators were accountable to the State Governments that elected them and sent them to Washington to represent them. But the 17th Amendment changed that. Now, as we know, Senators are elected by popular vote. They no longer must answer to their own state government. And they have FAR too much power because of it.
Dr Paul, along with a few others such as Zell Miller, Alan Keyes, Harry Brown, Lew Rockwell and Neil Boortz, have advocated the repeal of the 17th Amendment for a long time.
Zell Miller introduced a constitutional amendment, just after announcing his retirement, to repeal the 17th Amendment, saying, "it gives too much power to Washington's special interests and it's an attack on federalism."
Whether Ron Paul gets elected or not, it's THESE issues that THIS MOVEMENT was born for...
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