Holder on weapons

Screw Mexico. I say we keep our guns and they keep their people in Mexico. Fair trade by me.

we could use our guns to keep people in mexico

Good call!

Shoot, shovel, shut-up.

I still dont get that one Aunty. When we were kids twenty five years ago we snuck into a lake owned be this rancher. We heard there were large trout in there and being little ____'s we decided to check it out. Of course the rancher was a little smarter than us and used a drainage ditch to sneek up on hte sneekers. He held our three little twelve year old butts for 45 min at gun point until the sheriff arrived. We found out how much he did not like people fishing his pond or kids in general I think. My parents went ahead and whooped my butt for it. One of my little gang got in no trouble and his parents were outraged at his treatment by this rancher and wanted to press charges on him. The sheriff told them they were lucky he did not shoot us as he could have and that was that.
I guess the law changes or that sheriff had a different spin on it.

So how is Holder going to get the Mexican drug cartells to turn over their weapons since he used that as an example as to why enacted a law banning some weapons.

JG, he didn't say anything about taking guns away, that the cartels already have in their hands.(Good luck to the Mexican police and federales.) He thinks this will make it tougher for them to get any new ones.

When they can get used full auto AK's on the black market in any African country for $100, why spend $1,000+ for a semi-auto equivalent in the US.

Is that their source for weaponry? I can see how price counts, but somehow they have to get it home. I don't know how much experience they have with that transit.

You're missing the point - with assault weapons being illegal, Blackwater would be out of business

I wish I would have had enough money to open a gun shop on November 5th...I'd have filled it up with every gun that looks like something the security detail from some petty dictator would carry, then put a 20 ft. by 30 ft. sign outside reading "BE SCARED, BE VERY SCARED!!".

I could have retired by now.

Fish on...

Todd

P.S. It's been three months since the election, one month since Obama took over the reigns, and no one has come to my door asking for my guns yet...

What a lame ass load of crap reason for shredding the 2nd Amendment! And that's what this is, a continuation of assault on civil liberties and a shredding of constitutionally guaranteed rights. Not "granted" rights, guaranteed rights.

We went through this crap with Clinton. It was wrong then & it's wrong now. The last "ban" did not reduce crime. Nope...sure didn't.

Damn.

If they can ship drugs like they do and get a majority of their shipments through, how hard would it be to get arrms through another route? They would rather have more effective weapons than just the watered down version. I sure would. They have the money as well. Yes, a good amount of their weaponry comes from black market sources from outside of the US, like South America & Africa.

NEW full auto weapons are not available for sale to the general public in the U.S. In certain states, Class 3 weapons (full auto), can be owned by citizens if they pass background checks and pay the appropriate tax stamps. A gun like a MAC-10 is about $3,000. UZI's $5-7,000, MP-5s go for $20-25,000, AK's $8-15,000 depnding on style, M-16's go for $20-25,000. All of which had to be manufactured prior to a specific date, I believe 1984. Washingtonians are allowed to own these, provided they owned them prior to July 1st, 1994. A few other exceptions would also apply, but you would either have to be an armorer, Class 3 dealer, or manufacturer, essentially. This is a broad generalization, but it gets you close. We had our Federal Firearm's Licenses for about 9 years before we let them expire and close up shop.

So, spend $3-25,000 for a full auto version here, or $100 there. Plus they would have to go through a BATFE transfer process to buy the full auto gun from the lawful owner. Using that math, it becomes obvious where they get their full auto weapons, which is outside of the US. Feel good legislation.

Unfortunately for me, I lost all of my guns in a boating accident.

This dosent seem right. Americans have their 2nd amendment rights infringed on because things are bad in Mexico? Last time I checked they were two seperate countries with seperate leaders and laws.

That is unfortunate Dogfish. Sorry to hear it.

Same damn thing happened to me......

WE aught to just start packing, right out in the open, 24/7. There is strength in numbers...

I think the fearful among us should just go out and buy 35 or 40 guns this week...it will insure that you'll have your necessary weapons for Armageddon, and it will also stimulate the economy...perfect solution.

Several hours more after my first post on this thread...no one's been at my door looking to take any of my guns.

I guess I'm just lucky...apparently they're after all the rest of your's.

Fish on...

Todd

Damn I can't get a new assault rifle for the Fall 09 Hunt!

Damn, has it been two weeks already?