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#509686 - 05/20/09 01:14 PM Re: Westport sea lions. Nuisance or hazard? [Re: slabhunter]
Fins Only Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 03/04/09
Posts: 104
Loc: Union WA
I support the enviroment 100%, but with that said we need to show these sea mammals whos boss. If it takes a Rifle than more power to it. These animals are very intelligent. Infact they are so smart that They have obviously come to the conclusion that we do not have the guts to alter this behavior. Unfortunatley this behavior is becoming more and more common each year.

This needs to get handled, violently if necessary!
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#509690 - 05/20/09 01:40 PM Re: Westport sea lions. Nuisance or hazard? [Re: Fins Only]
AkKings Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/13/00
Posts: 1830
Loc: Kelso Wa.
Originally Posted By: Fins Only
This needs to get handled, violently if necessary!


Be careful! I work with a guy in Ak. that was arrested for shooting at sealions. He was sentenced to 1 year in a federal pen. He only served 9 days do to over crowding but said it was the scariest 9 days of his life.

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#509695 - 05/20/09 02:30 PM Re: Westport sea lions. Nuisance or hazard? [Re: eyeFISH]
A-DOG Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 01/27/08
Posts: 135
Loc: Friday Harbor, WA
Here is my sea lion story from last spring. A couple of buddies decide we are going to skip work for the afternoon and go set some prawn traps. We figure what the heck lets go pick up the girls. Its a nice day. So we pull up to my house and Carol and our 6 year old jump on with the buddies daughter who is 7. I slide the boat off the beach and one buddy starts yelling at the top of his lungs. l look over and see what appears to be a large seal acting very aggressive. As I am putting out past my bouy (100' from shore) I see that it is a medium sized California Sea Lion and it is coming perpendicular towards the boat. This is when I realize that the thing is going to try to jump in the boat. Sure as [censored] he does his best Carl Lewis triple jump impression and lands halfway into the starboard side of the boat snapping teeth and all. In the melay the small girls are grabbed by the adults and I pop the boat up on plane in disbelief. Buddy is yelling again that its chasing us. I yell hang on and pound the trhrottle down. Sealion is then jumping wakes and makes it halfway in the boat again this time on the stern. That was the craziest thing I have ever had happen. I was in disbelief and the girls and the rest of the adults were shaken pretty badly.

After some phone calls to WDFW and NOAA I was told that you are able to defend yourself if your life is in danger, but you better have definitive proof. Touching off a round from the 06 off the front porch doesnt cut it. Furbag in the boat attacking me. Hells yeah its gonna die. Weapons on board with the kids has not been my favorite idea, however that situation could have gotten very bad very quickly and Im not going to take a chance on getting someone hurt because some furbag is having a bad hair day.

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#509699 - 05/20/09 02:40 PM Re: Westport sea lions. Nuisance or hazard? [Re: A-DOG]
seastrike Offline
Hey Man....It's cool...

Registered: 08/18/02
Posts: 4242
Loc: seattle
Crazy story there A-Dog. I own guns but never carry unless I'm hunting. Maybe I'll change my mind after reading your story. I'll admit I like it when my buds carry while we are fishing.

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#509700 - 05/20/09 02:46 PM Re: Westport sea lions. Nuisance or hazard? [Re: seastrike]
LoweDown Offline
Conquistador

Registered: 08/07/06
Posts: 1759
Loc: Forks, WA
Get a job Dave.

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#509701 - 05/20/09 02:49 PM Re: Westport sea lions. Nuisance or hazard? [Re: LoweDown]
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The Chosen One

Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 13942
Loc: Tuleville
Well, since it's pick on Seastuck hour!

Originally Posted By: LoweDown
Get a job Dave.


agree

laugh
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#509737 - 05/20/09 04:47 PM Re: Westport sea lions. Nuisance or hazard? [Re: The Moderator]
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River Nutrients

Registered: 11/05/04
Posts: 2572
Loc: right place/wrong time
That's a truly amazing story A-DOG!
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#509839 - 05/21/09 03:15 AM Re: Westport sea lions. Nuisance or hazard? [Re: eyeFISH]
Charholio Offline
Parr

Registered: 03/01/07
Posts: 41
Loc: Anchorage, AK
Doesn't protection of property count for anything down there? I know it's the land of the liberal, but dang. When stuff like this starts happening with bears up here (AK), they either move them or kill them in the public's interest. Moving doesn't seem to be very cost effective nor does it solve the problem, as they come back.

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#509840 - 05/21/09 03:43 AM Re: Westport sea lions. Nuisance or hazard? [Re: Charholio]
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Ornamental Rice Bowl

Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 12616
Damned things are just like those bears on the Russian, Charholio... habituated to human freebies... with ZERO consequences!
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#509849 - 05/21/09 09:26 AM Re: Westport sea lions. Nuisance or hazard? [Re: ROCK]
Phoenix77 Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 10/04/06
Posts: 4025
Loc: Kent, WA
Hazing Sea Lions To Protect Salmon


Since early March, the states of Oregon, Washington, and Idaho have had federal permission to kill sea lions that prey on endangered salmon in the Columbia River.

The animals congregate near the Bonneville Dam, where salmon make for easy targets.

So far, wildlife managers have euthanized 10 sea lions. But there's also an effort underway to protect the salmon through hazing their predators.

Sadie Babits went out on the Columbia River to observe these scare tactics first-hand.





Bobby Begay steers his small boat up the Columbia River. His ties to the salmon here go back generations. As a member
http://news.opb.org/article/5024-hazing-sea-lions-protect-salmon/
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#509855 - 05/21/09 10:39 AM Re: Westport sea lions. Nuisance or hazard? [Re: seastrike]
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Carcass

Registered: 09/26/06
Posts: 2269
Loc: Where ever Dogfish tells me to...
You need to do more thatn threaten them with a hockey stick Dave, their smarter than Turkeys.
They seem to stay away from my baot for the most part. We have an "understanding". evil chain
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#509857 - 05/21/09 11:02 AM Re: Westport sea lions. Nuisance or hazard? [Re: Charholio]
AkKings Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/13/00
Posts: 1830
Loc: Kelso Wa.
Originally Posted By: Charholio
Doesn't protection of property count for anything down there? I know it's the land of the liberal, but dang. When stuff like this starts happening with bears up here (AK), they either move them or kill them in the public's interest.



Last time I checked, sealions were federally protected in Alaska too, so what would you do differently?

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#509962 - 05/21/09 05:52 PM Re: Westport sea lions. Nuisance or hazard? [Re: AkKings]
STRIKE ZONE Offline
GOOD LUCK

Registered: 08/09/00
Posts: 11969
Loc: Hobart,Wa U.S.A
If they enter the boat then it becomes self defense"Right"???.Good luck,
STRIKE ZONE

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#509963 - 05/21/09 05:53 PM Re: Westport sea lions. Nuisance or hazard? [Re: STRIKE ZONE]
dewbie Offline
Spawner

Registered: 01/30/09
Posts: 849
its not a crime if you dont get caught....

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#509970 - 05/21/09 06:13 PM Re: Westport sea lions. Nuisance or hazard? [Re: dewbie]
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MPD

Registered: 01/02/08
Posts: 2544
Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
if you see one, try throwing it a beach ball. Then, when it's balancing the ball on it's head, shoot it.
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#509972 - 05/21/09 06:14 PM Re: Westport sea lions. Nuisance or hazard? [Re: Mikespike]
Mikespike Offline
MPD

Registered: 01/02/08
Posts: 2544
Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
UH OH PARKER!!! Looks like we're going to have to kill all the gophers rofl


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#509974 - 05/21/09 06:16 PM Re: Westport sea lions. Nuisance or hazard? [Re: Mikespike]
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Spawner

Registered: 01/30/09
Posts: 849
they even terrorize the golf course?! nothing is sacred anymore.

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#509975 - 05/21/09 06:16 PM Re: Westport sea lions. Nuisance or hazard? [Re: Mikespike]
STRIKE ZONE Offline
GOOD LUCK

Registered: 08/09/00
Posts: 11969
Loc: Hobart,Wa U.S.A
Oh,They need to be shot.Good luck,
STRIKE ZONE

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#509979 - 05/21/09 06:33 PM Re: Westport sea lions. Nuisance or hazard? [Re: eyeFISH]
willametteriveroutlaw Offline
Spawner

Registered: 10/26/02
Posts: 908
Loc: Idaho
Originally Posted By: fishNphysician
Damned things are just like those bears on the Russian, Charholio... habituated to human freebies... with ZERO consequences!


Thats becoming a scary place to fish at night. I've been all over AK but that is the only place I have ever felt it necessary to carry a gun while fishing. (bears) I had a Black bear scare the [censored] out of me one time up there, walked down the river a ways and some A-hole from Anchorage feeding said bear. His excuse was he knew all about bears and that I should mind my own business. It didn't end well for him, had to talk to the park ranger and a trooper a bit later and was let off with a warning and a snicker.
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#509984 - 05/21/09 06:45 PM Re: Westport sea lions. Nuisance or hazard? [Re: Mikespike]
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Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 13942
Loc: Tuleville
Originally Posted By: Mikespike
UH OH PARKER!!! Looks like we're going to have to kill all the gophers rofl


It's a Call To Arms, Dogfish!

No worries, Mike, Andy and I have got this one covered.....

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