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#527652 - 08/12/09 01:00 AM Re: Elk Hunting What is Too Much Bull? [Re: mstar]
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Registered: 06/18/09
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Feel free to post a pic of even (1) of those animals. Though in fairness...you really should pick a dandy and refrain ALL of your previous TeePee-creepin' talk about Bears and the outright lies associated with same.

Or a fish.

I'd mention the axiom in regards to Native Preference,but that'd be a multi-layered Pun no ten casino's could explain to you.

Chief Shitting Bull,is heap big fitting!








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#527657 - 08/12/09 01:09 AM Re: Elk Hunting What is Too Much Bull? [Re: Big Stick]
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Do I smell Smoke Signals?!!?

Laffin'
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#527673 - 08/12/09 01:56 AM Re: Elk Hunting What is Too Much Bull? [Re: Big Stick]
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Poor dumb bastard,couldn't even get a fire going.(grin)
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#527702 - 08/12/09 07:41 AM Re: Elk Hunting What is Too Much Bull? [Re: Big Stick]
LoweDown Offline
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Registered: 08/07/06
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Loc: Forks, WA
Originally Posted By: Big Stick
No Blanketass reports?

Certainly hot enough to slip capes,spoil meat and mush fish...I figured it would be on.


TFF.

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#527714 - 08/12/09 10:07 AM Re: Elk Hunting What is Too Much Bull? [Re: LoweDown]
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Registered: 01/22/07
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Originally Posted By: LoweDown
TFF.


+1, and still learnin. Should start pen'in some.
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#527757 - 08/12/09 12:55 PM Re: Elk Hunting What is Too Much Bull? [Re: mstar]
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Registered: 04/29/06
Posts: 1725
Loc: Offshore
Originally Posted By: mstar
I KNOW MORE ABOUT HUNTING AND KILLING THAN YOU EVER WILL AND IT DRIVES YOU CRAZY, DOESN'T IT...


Perhaps, in the context of many traditions, there's more to hunting than the mere killing of animals....

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#527774 - 08/12/09 02:50 PM Re: Elk Hunting What is Too Much Bull? [Re: ]
Castingpearls Offline
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Registered: 03/26/08
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Loc: The Rock
I will say that there are some that do gain a high level of success simply because they have so much opportunity. I have fished with a couple native guys that can flat out put a hurtin on fish in a lot of situations, not just at the meatholes. Same with hunting. When you can spend as much time out in the field and kill as many animals as they do, I guess you manage to pick up on some skills that make you better at it. I do not speak of the majority of course which is sad.

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#527785 - 08/12/09 03:58 PM Re: Elk Hunting What is Too Much Bull? [Re: Castingpearls]
Dogfish Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
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I think Mstar = Tater, might be wrong, and if it is Tater, he certainly is on the upper end of the QIN members who know how to hunt well. I know many QIN folks who hunt not only for themselves, but for family members and elders.

Back on topic, these elk were legally killed, per usual and accustomed, and they were in velvet. Yeah, it would have been nice to see what size the rack was, but it doesn't change the fact that the bulls were made of meat. If I am shopping and the price of meat is one .30-06 round, and I can get 400 pounds of meat, or 100 pounds of meat, I'll pull the trigger on the 400 pound package. Saves time butchering, which I've done a lot of lately.

Nobody shrieked about my boys shooting deer in velvet. Plus, we'll be hunting here in Washington, so it is very likely that 5 deer will be spending some time in my freezer, along with an elk. If we can eat 5 deer and an elk in a year, I don't see how hard it would be for a family to eat 2 elk.

Much ado about nothing. Move along folks, move along.
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#527791 - 08/12/09 04:12 PM Re: Elk Hunting What is Too Much Bull? [Re: Dogfish]
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Registered: 03/30/06
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Loc: everett,wa
Originally Posted By: Dogfish
I think Mstar = Tater, might be wrong, and if it is Tater, he certainly is on the upper end of the QIN members who know how to hunt well. I know many QIN folks who hunt not only for themselves, but for family members and elders.

Back on topic, these elk were legally killed, per usual and accustomed, and they were in velvet. Yeah, it would have been nice to see what size the rack was, but it doesn't change the fact that the bulls were made of meat. If I am shopping and the price of meat is one .30-06 round, and I can get 400 pounds of meat, or 100 pounds of meat, I'll pull the trigger on the 400 pound package. Saves time butchering, which I've done a lot of lately.

Nobody shrieked about my boys shooting deer in velvet. Plus, we'll be hunting here in Washington, so it is very likely that 5 deer will be spending some time in my freezer, along with an elk. If we can eat 5 deer and an elk in a year, I don't see how hard it would be for a family to eat 2 elk.

Much ado about nothing. Move along folks, move along.


I can see your point. I just don't think it's necessary to pick the biggest males in the herd when food hunting. Just because you can, doesnt mean you have too......
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#527799 - 08/12/09 04:29 PM Re: Elk Hunting What is Too Much Bull? [Re: uglybugger]
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I seldom trophy hunt. Can't eat the horns, but when I draw a trophy tag, like the Quilomene mule deer tag I got a few years back or the Lake Quinault bull tag I have this year, I'll wait it out for a prime specimen. Any other year, if there is a 3x3 and a spike standing side by side, I'll drop the 3 point. Not a trophy, but certainly a better use of my time dragging, skinning, butchering and eating. If there was a bigger doe next to them, and it was legal, I'd drop the doe.

It is meat.
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#527833 - 08/12/09 05:44 PM Re: Elk Hunting What is Too Much Bull? [Re: Dogfish]
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Posts: 474
Loc: University Place Washington
I wouldn't have a problem with Native Americans hunting & fising if they didnt show such a disregard for the resource and put out displays of piled up perfect salmon to lure game in. Or leave piles of chrome fish on the bottoms of the river after they ripped the eggs out or didnt want to waste time with bucks. I thought the whole purpose of Natives having the luxuries and leeway they exert on rivers and in the woods was so they could connect with their traditional (for lack of better word) 'zen" like way of hunting. Correct me if im worng but five Quinalt tribal rigs pulling up on a herd of elk & mowing em down with head shots and laughing it up while suffering ones run in a circle going out of their minds in pain, is the purpose of the leniancy and privilege Natives have to hunt in a traditional fashion, then those privileges should be revoked. The above story is true to the last word & has many other gut wrenching aspects. I'm sure their are some good Natives out there hunting and fishing without the disgregard for the species but it makes me less liking of those individuals for not stepping up the fight to regulate rapers of the resource like mstar. As far as your [censored] for tat I can capmore animals than you, that just reminds me of two rival gang members having a pissing match in the wind. Blow on.
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#527999 - 08/12/09 11:08 PM Re: Elk Hunting What is Too Much Bull? [Re: jackiepoo]
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Injuns are as wasteful as they are stupid,because such traits run hand in hand and it can only be bred out of them(sadly,for all).

Not much can be said for a People that was taken over by (2) tinfoil beads and a shot of Rotgut.
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#528971 - 08/16/09 04:18 PM Re: Elk Hunting What is Too Much Bull? [Re: Big Stick]
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1000 words.

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#528998 - 08/16/09 05:14 PM Re: Elk Hunting What is Too Much Bull? [Re: Big Stick]
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My bad.

I should plug that rifle again.

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#529111 - 08/16/09 09:30 PM Re: Elk Hunting What is Too Much Bull? [Re: Big Stick]
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Thats a nice one

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#529114 - 08/16/09 09:41 PM Re: Elk Hunting What is Too Much Bull? [Re: wildwillard]
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Both Bucks are quite a little bit better than that.
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#530713 - 08/21/09 01:04 AM Re: Elk Hunting What is Too Much Bull? [Re: Big Stick]
mstar Offline
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Registered: 01/30/08
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Takes a big stick to kill a animal? haha, shot placement son. Killed my first hundred elk with a 243. lung and head shots! killed my next 100 with a 7mm, 308 257 roberts and my last few with my new 308 icon. (20) last year.moose, bison, bears, blacktail deer you name it. Don't need pics to prove the man I AM unlike you. Have a few though, maybe soon i'll show you if i feel the pitty too. Ohh yeah, the 30-06 has taken a few too. 7mm-08.yeah. It's not all about the kill, it's about feeding people. Some people are just like this. Grew up hunting and like helping family's out. JUST GLAD I'M NOT A RACIST LIKE SOME OF THE PEOPLE HERE. And the so called "indians" that killed all the elk that day, they are a bunch of adopted white people who i would rather see have to buy a license and hunt with non-indians. They will be charged in tribal court and hopefully be dis-enrolled. there is no excuse for what they did and i was the first to tell to have them prosecuted. FLAME ON ASSHOLE.....................

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#530748 - 08/21/09 11:03 AM Re: Elk Hunting What is Too Much Bull? [Re: mstar]
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. killing hundreds of animals isn't the objective or even necesssary. Leave it be and take up gang bangn perhaps. Last I checked the youth on some of the reservations I have been by are kinda into that whole fitty cent deal. Go set an example there cuzzz.


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#531759 - 08/25/09 10:31 PM Re: Elk Hunting What is Too Much Bull? [Re: mstar]
Big Stick Offline
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Registered: 06/18/09
Posts: 963
Loc: Paradise,AK.
Spare time has been a commodity this hitch,though you'd need the premise of gainful employment explained to you as well.

I'm happy to talk bullets,barrels,actions,optics,propellants,etc...despite the gamut all being lightyears over your head. A portion of that due to genetics,the balance to experience,all of which you've been slighted mightily.

Racist?!!? That's a rather marvelous use of your "ability" to read sign. Pretty sure I'm setting besides a Native pard in a high alpine meadow,with him holding a rather splendid Buck that I'd just put him on and had him hose with a rifle I was happy to loan him for the foray. (S/A 700 wearing a #5 fluted 1-10" 24" Hart chambered 300WSM,HS DBM,McMillan HTG,Talley LW's,3.5-10x 40mm Tactical,yada,yada)

Feel free to continue to expound upon the countless things you are clueless about and insert another feather into your Chief Shitting Bull head dress.

As per always,very good call to omit pics that don't exist. Just don't quit talking out your ass.
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