#522224 - 07/23/09 06:54 PM
Re: MA 9/10 Opening day report
[Re: Todd]
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The Chosen One
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Too funny. Well hell. That explains it all! That 8/0 sickle siwash on the coho killer is too big, huh? I like to set the line at the very edge of the clip - just to be sure it pops off the clip when that 3" shaker grabs it. You saying my BBR 966 is too stiff as a rigger rod? I like lots of slack in the line as it keeps the rod from bending too much therefore reduces the odds of me breaking it. WWTD? He'll tell you what to do, how to do it, and what you're doing wrong, even if you're not doing anything wrong!
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#522231 - 07/23/09 07:46 PM
Re: MA 9/10 Opening day report
[Re: The Moderator]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/07/00
Posts: 2955
Loc: Lynnwood, WA
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Vision hooks SUCK!!!!!
Just thought I'd throw that in here for ol' time's sake...
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#522236 - 07/23/09 08:05 PM
Re: MA 9/10 Opening day report
[Re: 4Salt]
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Returning Adult
Registered: 02/21/06
Posts: 295
Loc: Marysville, WA
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On the topic of broken hooks... I was fishing with a guide in Thailand who targeted big (and I mean BIG) Mekong Catfish. I broke a hook while we were fishing and he explained that it happens when the hook doesn't get "set" all the way through the bone. His theory is that the hook only penetrates slightly and hooks are designed to bear all the weight at the bend, not the tip. BTW what size hooks are you guys using on your coho killers and coyotes? I replaced mine with Owners and a nice king popped off at the surface a couple weeks ago. I'm a little nervous about using too big a hook and spoiling the action. The newer coho killers seem to have a decent hook.
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#522238 - 07/23/09 08:11 PM
Re: MA 9/10 Opening day report
[Re: The Moderator]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/08/06
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Too funny. Well hell. That explains it all! That 8/0 sickle siwash on the coho killer is too big, huh? I like to set the line at the very edge of the clip - just to be sure it pops off the clip when that 3" shaker grabs it. You saying my BBR 966 is too stiff as a rigger rod? I like lots of slack in the line as it keeps the rod from bending too much therefore reduces the odds of me breaking it. WWTD? He'll tell you what to do, how to do it, and what you're doing wrong, even if you're not doing anything wrong! I've had several bigger fish peel line and then zippo they're gone with the sickle siwash lately. I've also boated some nice fish but I'd have to say the jury is still out on them for me. I run a 2/0 on the CK and 3.5 Coyote and 3/0 on everything else. I have a few CK's rigged with 1/0 but I won't use them till the Coho show in numbers to avoid them rusting. I run a Lami CG and a Penn Intl with braid and crank that SOB to the water line. That rod is loaded and when it pops there is a hookset. I have more 'sperimentin' to do with the sickles but other than they look badazz I want some better landing ratios.
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#522241 - 07/23/09 08:41 PM
Re: MA 9/10 Opening day report
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Dude, where's my boat?
Registered: 11/05/00
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Loc: Seattle
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They worked well today, no complaints as long as you or the system you use pegs that hook they dont come out once buried IMO...cheers
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#522247 - 07/23/09 09:18 PM
Re: MA 9/10 Opening day report
[Re: summerrun]
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Registered: 02/11/03
Posts: 1381
Loc: Bainbridge Island WA
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"I've had several bigger fish peel line and then zippo they're gone with the sickle siwash lately. "
me too!
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#522252 - 07/23/09 09:44 PM
Re: MA 9/10 Opening day report
[Re: D3Smartie]
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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That happened to Doc steelhead fishing with me this spring, three times in a row, and since I had a front row(er's) seat to watch it, I can say that even when two of them were taking line, they had not been well hooked...if any hook is not "in there", it won't stay no matter what you do before or after...
Once they're pinned, they're pinned, but especially when trolling it's a little harder to make sure the hook is fully sunk, at least when using downriggers.
So far as I can tell, it's just one of the costs of using 'riggers...sometimes fish just don't get hooked. If you're getting more bites fishing that way, and you land the ones that are fully pinned, then I think the math works out pretty well in your favor still!
The wire diameter difference between the 1/0 and 2/0 is pretty significant...consider using a 1/0, especially on the smaller lures like a Coho Killer, and I bet that they will penetrate quicker and easier.
Fish on...
Todd
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#522276 - 07/23/09 11:54 PM
Re: MA 9/10 Opening day report
[Re: Todd]
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Returning Adult
Registered: 08/05/01
Posts: 301
Loc: Bremerton
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I've been running the 1/0 on the CK and have been impressed, albeit a small sample size of four fish, and nothing over 15#, but still 100% is well 100%.
I just switched to the sickle siwash on some of my jigs. I started the day of at 2 landed for 6 hookups on Gami siwash and ended the day at 4 for 4 on the SS. Still a small sample, but I'm gonna start with them next time.
Todd, the back to back that you and sky-guy showed in the photo, my hooks seem to come up often side by side or interlocked. Do you think the swivel is to small or are you going right to the split ring? Probably be putting another order in soon. What kind of discount does a few quality photos get me? Had to ask...
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#522615 - 07/25/09 03:19 PM
Re: MA 9/10 Opening day report
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Carcass
Registered: 01/08/07
Posts: 2199
Loc: Bainbridge Island
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7/25 just got back from Jeff Head. 2 small kings 9-10 pounds each, 1 pink slime rocket about 5 pounds and 1 coho about 5 pounds. Lost a few too. Time for a nap. TBJ OUT!
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#522623 - 07/25/09 05:10 PM
Re: MA 9/10 Opening day report
[Re: TBJ]
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 07/06/04
Posts: 1069
Loc: Everett
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My 8 year old and I hit PnP for 3 hours this morning. Fished through the 7:20 incoming and hit an 8-9lb blackmouth and a chumpie. Had another drive by that didn't stick. We'll hit it again in the AM. Almost forgot... If the guy in the big ass LUHRS cruiser reads this,get your head out of your ass. Just because you're bigger than anyone else out there doesn't mean you own the damn water. Take your boat off auto pilot and pay attention to WTF you're doing.
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#522628 - 07/25/09 06:18 PM
Re: MA 9/10 Opening day report
[Re: SundayMoney]
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Spawner
Registered: 02/04/00
Posts: 516
Loc: Seattle, WA
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My son and I started late this morning, but our first pass on the water produced a nice ten pound clipped king for the box. We released a legal sized unclipped blackmouth on the next pass then it was all over. Good to see Spud and RognSue on the water today. We will probably be out tomorrow morning and give TBJ some company over at Jeff. [img:left]http:// [/img]
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#522635 - 07/25/09 07:01 PM
Re: MA 9/10 Opening day report
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Returning Adult
Registered: 07/14/06
Posts: 373
Loc: Port Orchard
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Hit area 10/11 off Southworth yesterday morning, 14lb hatchery chinook
Saw 3 or more boats with atleast one fish...
Will post pics later
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#523259 - 07/27/09 11:12 PM
Re: MA 9/10 Opening day report
[Re: Speyguy]
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Spawner
Registered: 02/04/00
Posts: 516
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Team Q had an exceptional day today out on the water in MA10. Six fish on this morning and limited with four kings of 8, 10, 17 and 20 pounds. All were chrome so it looks as though a fresh batch of fish has moved in. Purple haze Hotspot and purple haze hoochie did the trick. Fish were caught at 70' to 100' on the rigger. We'll be out again tomorrow morning trying to cool off.
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