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#526716 - 08/09/09 01:06 AM Re: Ted for Prez!!!!! [Re: ParaLeaks]
Big Stick Offline
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Feel free to bitchslap Ted and challenge him to a duel,as a means of vindicating yourself. I'll give you 60/40 odds and I've only met the bastard twice.

There's some long leashes in this World and you tread upon one.
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#526739 - 08/09/09 01:51 AM Re: Ted for Prez!!!!! [Re: Big Stick]
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"Chickenhawk" (also chicken hawk and chicken-hawk) is a political epithet used in the United States to criticize a politician, bureaucrat, or commentator who strongly supports a war or other military action, yet who actively avoided military service when of age.

The term is meant to indicate that the person in question is cowardly or hypocritical for personally avoiding combat in the past while advocating that others go to war in the present. Generally, the implication is that "chickenhawks" lack the experience, judgment, or moral standing to make decisions about going to war.

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#526742 - 08/09/09 01:54 AM Re: Ted for Prez!!!!! [Re: Illahee]
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DICKBRAIN!!!!!

"Vietnam" is a single [censored] word.

You [censored] idiot.
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#526743 - 08/09/09 01:57 AM Re: Ted for Prez!!!!! [Re: Illahee]
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As per your stupid [censored] Post,numbered #52681:

"On behalf of the 58,228 real patriots who's name appear on the Viet Nam Memorial wall, FO Ted Nugent, you suck."

Which is why Lion's eat their young.
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#526754 - 08/09/09 02:08 AM Re: Ted for Prez!!!!! [Re: Big Stick]
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I think your buddy needs his depends changed.

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#526758 - 08/09/09 02:16 AM Re: Ted for Prez!!!!! [Re: Illahee]
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Put down the crack-pipe,realize the stupid [censored] you've said and quit maligning folks with your [censored] lies.

It's not fair to the gents who've Served.
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#526834 - 08/09/09 02:19 PM Re: Ted for Prez!!!!! [Re: Big Stick]
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Funny that the RWWJ's would choose Ted as their patriotic idol, given his cowardly past and all, but hey one man's traitor is another mans hero.
Here's to the future adult Depends spokesperson Ted Nugent, and the fools who think he's some kind of hero.

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#526837 - 08/09/09 02:53 PM Re: Ted for Prez!!!!! [Re: Illahee]
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Freespool your arguments are way off track of the content of the video. No body is choosing Ted as a patriotic idol. The video portrays Ted's compeling view of our second amendment rights and the "gaggle" of people who think its better for inocent people to die while criminals get chance after chance.

I agree with Big Stick in that you are singling out one draft doger and not the whole lot.
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#526840 - 08/09/09 03:21 PM Re: Ted for Prez!!!!! [Re: j 7]
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The reason is simple, the other draft dodgers aren't trying to pass themselves off as super patriots.
He's one big giant hypocrite, but hey if you like Sarah and Rush, Ted probably is your hero.

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#526850 - 08/09/09 04:21 PM Re: Ted for Prez!!!!! [Re: Illahee]
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funny thread this is turning into.....

Big Stick to me..."There's some long leashes in this World and you tread upon one."

Really? You had better look again, because there's only one end of your leash with anyone on it.

Nugent? Who he is, only he knows. Do I know him? No. Do I like him? Can't answer that, don't know him, but my impression is that I might. I do, however, like what he had to say in the video. IMO, we would all be safer if everyone had a gun. The good guys have always outnumbered the bad. You would have to be suicidal to be a crook. The thought makes me smile smile
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#526878 - 08/09/09 07:06 PM Re: Ted for Prez!!!!! [Re: ParaLeaks]
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I've been aware of the accusations against Ted Nugent for quite a while.
I'm reluctant to go either way regarding him.
I DO agree on his strong support of hunting and strong dislike of emotional treehuggers, but he does hunt inside the fence quite a bit.
Not my cup o tea.

This is what he was quoted as saying before possibly being drafted...
NOT MY WORDS, so don't kill the messenger.

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In a July 15, 1990, Detroit Free Press interview, Nugent crowed about how he managed to dodge the draft. He claims that 30 days before his draft board physical, he disavowed personal hygiene. The last ten days he ingested nothing but junk food and Pepsi, and with a week to go until the physical, he stopped using the bathroom altogether. When the big day came, he had been living in excrement-caked and urine-stained pants. Always the hero, however, Nugent reassured the Free Press, “But if I would have gone over there, I’d have been killed, or I’d have killed all the Hippies in the foxholes. I would have killed everybody.”


I've seen this bantered about for years.

Some refuse to believe it, lefty treehuggers brag of it.
True?
I don't know, but it is a cloud that hangs over the Nuges' head.
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#526883 - 08/09/09 07:38 PM Re: Ted for Prez!!!!! [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
He's definitely not everybody's cup of tea but I still like Cat Scratch Fever.


It's no secret if you hunt your own property, don't shoot the does and spare the bucks...lmao

Also watched Ted hunt Africa, he put an arrow in any/everything that got within the ONLY watering hole for miles....lol

I agreed with his message, other than that....

Mf
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#526902 - 08/09/09 09:49 PM Re: Ted for Prez!!!!! [Re: Magicfly]
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#1 rule in my life. Never discuss religion or politics.

That bieng said................

Love or hate Ted.....he has been a figure for the free world and gun rights.

He may have dodged the draft, but I cant say that I blame him. The difference between now and then.......You have a choice today. It wasnt right at the time, but thats the way it was.

Freespool, you served our country, THANK YOU.

Dont hate a man for not going to hell against his will.....nobody should.

I was born in 1960, so I missed the draft. But I was one of the first to sign up for military service if the time came again.

God willing, we will never see those days again.
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#526908 - 08/09/09 10:04 PM Re: Ted for Prez!!!!! [Re: sykofish]
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As a rule I have no love for draft dodgers and little love for war protesters as I think they undermine the morale of the fighting personnel. VHawk was one who never quite got it when I told him that soldiers would rather hear, "Thanks" than, "Oh, I'm so sorry."

That said, I saw a bumper sticker the other day that I can agree with.... "I'm already against the next war."
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#526968 - 08/10/09 01:38 AM Re: Ted for Prez!!!!! [Re: ]
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Didn't read the thread, I'll admit...just the title...and Ted for Prez is almost as retarded as Palin for mail carrier, or Bachmann for toilet attendant...at least they're somewhat qualified for those jobs.

Fish on...

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#526972 - 08/10/09 01:57 AM Re: Ted for Prez!!!!! [Re: Todd]
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I think Frank Zappa made a little more sense than Ted Nugent,to me anyway,regarding politics. I would vote for neither.


















































































Avid for president rofl

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#526977 - 08/10/09 02:20 AM Re: Ted for Prez!!!!! [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
Didn't read the thread, I'll admit...just the title...and Ted for Prez is almost as retarded as Palin for mail carrier, or Bachmann for toilet attendant...at least they're somewhat qualified for those jobs.

Fish on...

Todd


I certainly wouldnt entertain the idea of Ted being a prez candidate. I just thought it was a catchy title. I do however agree with what he was saying in the interview.

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#526983 - 08/10/09 03:30 AM Re: Ted for Prez!!!!! [Re: bullshooter]
Irie Offline
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Loc: South Sound
My issue with Ted and his ilk is that they're all about freedom as long it only applies to themselves.

It's pretty shameful to look up to a complete ass-tard like Ted Nugent and see him as a brilliant thinker. America is chock-full of loud-mouthed hillbillies. To a slightly lesser extent, wealthy, loud-mouthed hillbillies. He's just one of the wealthier yokels that happens to be in the entertainment industry and hence happens to have a stage to spout off from.

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#527080 - 08/10/09 03:02 PM Re: Ted for Prez!!!!! [Re: Big Stick]
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You know there are times I can't stand it.................Just to start I joined in 67 spent 12 months in country extended for 6 more that said.........in that time to dodge the draft was normal. College, get your girl friend preg & get married with kids, number of legal ways. If single, oh boy options dropped fast. From 69 on anyone who volunteered for that mess had to be just crazy. It was a meat eater of people on both sides. To say now that someone who ducked that mess is a coward is to not have been in combat in Nam. I packed my best friend out on my back while he bled out and bluntly put after a short time you don't fight for the country you fight for your buddies and screw god and country sh--. It has been said that combat is long periods of utter boredom with periods of extreme terror which is true.

There are things that were and are worth dying for............that god damn mess was not one of them! I had a commanding officer who was West Point and he made understand the military with this simple statement. "The sole purpose of the US military is to kill, maim, and destroy in defense of and in the name of the people of the United States."

Think about it before you call anyone a coward and if you haven't been in combat you don't know what the hell your talking about.
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#527118 - 08/10/09 05:08 PM Re: Ted for Prez!!!!! [Re: Rivrguy]
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Rivrguy,

Spoken like a combat veteran. Sorry you learned the hardest way.

Service to one's country is noble. Service in behalf of one's country on an ill-advised or stupid mission is, well, self-evident. My greatest regret about VN is that there weren't 58,000 more draft resisters.

As for Ted Nugent, I don't know diddly about him, but I believe he could have dodged the draft and still be a patriot. That should make sense to anyone with any serious thinking capacity. As for his being prez material, I don't know, but doubt it.

Sg

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