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#527513 - 08/11/09 06:40 PM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov *** [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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#527521 - 08/11/09 07:15 PM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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Originally Posted By: Kaiser D.
Just curious, Jerry, what are you hoping to ask/learn by going to the townhall meeting?

I've been wondering the same of anyone that is thinking of going to one. It would seem that the Internet could provide the same information in a more timely manner.

Of course, you'd have to live without the townhall vibe.



I would like to find out if my rep has done his due diligence or if he is just parroting the Obamacare line. What part of the internet--- who has the truth? The bill is too full of holes to be really meaningful--- the meat will be inserted by career government workers.
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#527524 - 08/11/09 07:26 PM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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OK Jerry:

What exactly IS this "Obamacare line" that you say everyone is parroting?

How can the bill be too full of holes when there ISN'T even a bill yet?

Right now there are 4 preliminary committee bills floating around between the House and Senate. When Congress gets back from Summer recess on Sept. 15th they will be reconciling the different pieces of legislation into a more finalized bill. Staffers ALWAYS supply the "meat" of the bills also.

And finally and with all due respect... Are you REALLY open to the truth... or are you just looking for evidence to support your pre-conceived notions?

A LOT of truth has been supplied to you here... and yet you seem to favor the right-wing fringe positions over it? I sincerely hope you will keep an open mind.
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#527534 - 08/11/09 07:57 PM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: 4Salt]
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Originally Posted By: 4Salt
A LOT of truth has been supplied to you here... and yet you seem to favor the right-wing fringe positions over it? I sincerely hope you will keep an open mind.


rofl

The funniest line of the whole 30 some page abortion....

Like the line from the movie "Shooter"....."The truth is what I say it is"....or in 4skins world...."The truth is what KK and Todd say it is"
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#527545 - 08/11/09 08:41 PM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: RowVsWade]
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It's the SECOND funniest line Dingle. doh

The funniest is you desperately tryin' to appear clever. thumbs
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#527549 - 08/11/09 08:47 PM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: RowVsWade]
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KK....ain't u sweet.
"Don't you have a seal to screw?" ????

The only reference to "seal" I have made recently is when I commented that my wife is half seal. A tongue in cheek reference that indicated that my wife really likes fish.

And in your pathetic desperation to get me out of your little world, you drag my wife into it? You know, dude, you are so full of vile bile that you are just leaking all over the place. Everyone who disagrees with you is your enemy in your eyes and your defense is to attempt to assassinate their character(s) by third-grade level name calling and such.

Grow up. You do your cause a disservice.
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#527633 - 08/12/09 12:34 AM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: ]
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bluewaterpro,

My bad(again).

Whatcha' do for a living?

Laffin'
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#527638 - 08/12/09 12:41 AM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: ]
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Do not confuse "care",with laughing my ass off.
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#527644 - 08/12/09 12:51 AM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: ]
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I'd imagine that saves you a fair amount on Kleenex.
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#527655 - 08/12/09 01:04 AM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: ]
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Being a sellout has gotta be fulfilling...feel free to elaborate on same.
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#527658 - 08/12/09 01:10 AM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: ]
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I was listing to someone talk about how long it would take to get care if the plan was approved and how we would end up having to ration it. Might thought then went to this:
1. Do you think doctors will flee the US? or
2. Do you think that more people will be getting needless medical procedures? or
3. Are you scared that more poor sick people will actually start getting care and that will push the priviledged people back from getting the care they so greatly deserve?

Since I truely believe that the doctors won't leave, and since the biggest arguement usually includes that statement that fewer procedures will be available, it seems that most people who fear rationing are actually more afraid that someone else will get helped before they do. Even if we talk about doctors leaving this country, they still will most likely stay in the field and help other deserving people. The truth is, the arguement is one of self importance and prejudice, truely believing that some people deserve care over others.

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#527660 - 08/12/09 01:15 AM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: Krijack]
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1) Nope

2) Nope

3) Nope

Common sense ain't your gig...three-strikes and you are OUT!

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#527662 - 08/12/09 01:20 AM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: ]
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Neither common sense nor pride,are available on the instructional level.

If only obviously.
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#527663 - 08/12/09 01:20 AM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: Big Stick]
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Then, big stick, what is the reasoning behind beleiving that the now so wonderfully accessible care will suddenly become unaccessible? The person in question was a talk show host who was talking about how he was able to get a procedure done in one day, but in Canada it takes 17 weeks. So why the difference. It could very well be that the pay there sucks compared to across the boarder. But if we lowered the pay, would the doctors leave. Like you said, NO.

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#527665 - 08/12/09 01:30 AM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: Krijack]
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Pardon my inability,in readily shifting my brain into a gear lower than your best case scenario.

I digress...

(1) Name the Country(ies),that our flourishing Medical Profession will flock to,so as to reap inordinate fiscal rewards for their current level(s) of Expertise?

(2) Name the subsequent procedure(s),that will then become mundane to the tune of being under the radar?

(3) Name the Blue Bloods destined to be tossed into the Alley,so as to make way for Illegal Alien Crack Whore's at Cedars-Sinai and/or Walter Reed(et al)?

If what you didn't know,was converted to daylight...the World would be blinded and that is being GENEROUS!
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#527671 - 08/12/09 01:53 AM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: ]
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Ae you bitching,or bragging?

The beauty of creating your own Company,is retiring at 21.
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#527674 - 08/12/09 01:59 AM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: Big Stick]
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#527676 - 08/12/09 02:04 AM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: ]
Big Stick Offline
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Loc: Paradise,AK.
Work is subjective and it's safe to say you don't quantify. Same goes your ideal of living.

I concur on your lack of a brag being inherent.
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#527677 - 08/12/09 02:05 AM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: chasbo]
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Poor Barak will hang himself umpteen times over and I'm not even a fan.
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#527706 - 08/12/09 08:31 AM Re: Are they serious?!?! flag@whitehouse.gov [Re: 4Salt]
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Originally Posted By: 4Salt
OK Jerry:

What exactly IS this "Obamacare line" that you say everyone is parroting?

How can the bill be too full of holes when there ISN'T even a bill yet?

Right now there are 4 preliminary committee bills floating around between the House and Senate. When Congress gets back from Summer recess on Sept. 15th they will be reconciling the different pieces of legislation into a more finalized bill. Staffers ALWAYS supply the "meat" of the bills also.

And finally and with all due respect... Are you REALLY open to the truth... or are you just looking for evidence to support your pre-conceived notions?

A LOT of truth has been supplied to you here... and yet you seem to favor the right-wing fringe positions over it? I sincerely hope you will keep an open mind.




I am certainly open to the "truth", but we all wear glasses that color what we believe. I also know that I see the "truth" from a conservative viewpoint.
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