#529609 - 08/17/09 08:52 PM
Sharks in Puget Sound
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Registered: 03/27/01
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Loc: Yuppie Ville
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It's taken a couple of days for me to post this with the fear everyone would think I'm nuts. Saturday evening, My son, a good friend of mine and myself were trolling at West Point. My rod started to get bit so I popped it off the down rigger and turned it over to my son. I thought for sure it might be a Dog fish. The fish comes to the surface about 30 yards behind the boat and I still couldn't quite tell what it was. All of a sudden, the rod takes a hard jerk down and comes back up with the origional about of pressure from this small fish attached. Then we see a shark fin and tail on the top of the water behind the fish. I would guess the distance from the dorsal to the tail was around 36". I've seen my fair share of Dog Fish in my days, but this did not appear to be one. So we get this fish up to the boat and it's a True Cod with a bite taken out of its' back. I wish I had a camera with me so you could see the bite mark. It went clean through the spine and was about 4" across at the widest point. It wasn't chewed up, just a clean, single bite. I know there's 6 Gill Sharks in the Sound, but I thought they were most active late at night. Any thoughts on what type of shark this could have been?
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#529618 - 08/17/09 09:21 PM
Re: Sharks in Puget Sound
[Re: charr]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/25/01
Posts: 2834
Loc: Marysville
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A large dogfish We "casught several such fish this past week that had taken smolts that was hooked on spoons. The smolt's head was still on the hook (along with the dogfish) but the rest was gone with a single clean bite. Have seen this in the past.
Tight lines Curt
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#529624 - 08/17/09 09:39 PM
Re: Sharks in Puget Sound
[Re: Smalma]
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Spawner
Registered: 03/27/01
Posts: 778
Loc: Yuppie Ville
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Thanks Smalma. That was the biggest friggin Dogfish I've ever seen. I couldn't believe one could take a bite that clean?
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#529656 - 08/17/09 10:38 PM
Re: Sharks in Puget Sound
[Re: fishenfool]
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Hazmat
Registered: 04/27/04
Posts: 908
Loc: on the river
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A few years ago we had dog fish eating our kings on the way up to the boat. Mostly the smaller fish, but we had one about 10 lbs that looked like it was attacked by a cookie cutter. The fish was gutted and mangled by the time it came to the net.
matt
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#529699 - 08/18/09 12:28 AM
Re: Sharks in Puget Sound
[Re: gilly]
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 09/23/02
Posts: 1188
Loc: Monroe, Washington
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There are quite a few larger ones on the west side of Possession. Between 3' and 4' occasionally. Several years ago we hooked a big one there. I happened to look down while my buddy was releasing it. There was another huge one following our 12 pound DR ball about 6" away, I think studying it to see if it could eat it?
They are not really smart, just hungry. A big blue shark followed us out in the ocean quite a few years ago. It was funny as a small log of about 6" arouind and 3 feet long got between us. It was butting it with its head and then biting it. It did this several times before giving up. I had the camera on the seat for a while to get some good shots of it. When I ran up to get the camera for some shots, My wife put it away, so I missed it. My guess is it was trying to figure out if it could eat it.
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#529716 - 08/18/09 01:20 AM
Re: Sharks in Puget Sound
[Re: Fishinnut]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 04/16/08
Posts: 183
Loc: Washington
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About ten years ago I aw a shark off Patos Island that was 6-7 ft long, way, way thicker than a dogfish it's pectoral fins probably had a 3 ft spread, I was told by the guy I was with that it was a salmon shark. We got a good look it swam right underneath the boat, maybe that's what it was?
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#529764 - 08/18/09 11:16 AM
Re: Sharks in Puget Sound
[Re: Jeff D]
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Spawner
Registered: 01/22/06
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Loc: tacoma
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Dorsal to the tail +/- 36 ". Looking at some photos, dorsal to the tip of the tail is a little bit more than half the length of a dogfish. That would make your fish around 5-6 feet long. According to a NMFS publication, maximum size for a spiny dogfish is around 5.25 feet. So I guess it is possible that you saw a huge dogfish. But you said it didn't look like a dogfish - In what way?
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#529775 - 08/18/09 11:27 AM
Re: Sharks in Puget Sound
[Re: stlhead]
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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Unless there's a different one, I've always thought that when folks around here say "Sand Shark" or "Mud Shark", that they are actually referring to Spiny Dogfish.
Out in MA9 last week every king we brought up would have six or eight doggies following it all the way to the net, and they were not small ones...several in the 4 foot plus range every time.
If you were unlucky enough to hook a bullhead or flounder, the sharks would be on it in a few seconds if you didn't immediately get it up and off the hook, and several times we reeled up dogfish hooked on the back of flounder, reeled 'em both up.
More often we just reeled up the back half of a flounder.
Fish on...
Todd
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#529780 - 08/18/09 11:44 AM
Re: Sharks in Puget Sound
[Re: Todd]
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The Chosen One
Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 13942
Loc: Tuleville
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While diving a sheer ledge out on the Sunshine Coast of Canadia, as I was hovering along side the ledge doing some decompression obligations, I got to watch a 4-5' doggie swim out from the green abyss and run right in the middle of my chest. It never tried to bite me - was more like a moronic dogfish torpedo. Just came out of nowhere with me in it's sights, and hit me center of mass. Fortunately, the sharkhead must have been a dud, as it didn't explode. It sorta bumped (hard) off of my chest, did a couple of quick turns in the water and then swam off back in to the green abyss as I tried to grab it's tail. Of all the thousands of dives I did off of Alki and up in Barkley Sound, I've still never personally seen a 6-gill, or any other oceanic shark while diving. Just some chinarks.
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#529785 - 08/18/09 11:54 AM
Re: Sharks in Puget Sound
[Re: The Moderator]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/15/00
Posts: 2952
Loc: Olalla, WA
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Poor buggars
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#529788 - 08/18/09 12:02 PM
Re: Sharks in Puget Sound
[Re: NOFISH]
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Spawner
Registered: 01/22/06
Posts: 917
Loc: tacoma
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When i was a kid, it was more or less a given that fishermen would kill every dogfish they caught. I remember one time when my Dad took a knife and slit open a big dogfish and then cut the line. I saw the the dogfish swim around beneath the boat eating its own guts. Pretty cool. Obviously left an impression on me.
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#529797 - 08/18/09 12:26 PM
Re: Sharks in Puget Sound
[Re: milt roe]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
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Maybe they were six gill pups? In fact my dad's bro from MN brought two back to the house once. Why? Who knows. But definitely grey and not even close to being a dog fish. "It sorta bumped (hard) off of my chest" It was marking you. He made you his..... Mudshark legend: http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/mudshark.asp
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#529826 - 08/18/09 01:59 PM
Re: Sharks in Puget Sound
[Re: Jerry Garcia]
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Kitsap's Crankiest Contractor
Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 2268
Loc: Poulsbo
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NOFISH--aint them hooks a bit far apart?
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#529915 - 08/18/09 06:23 PM
Re: Sharks in Puget Sound
[Re: Bucket/Good Sport]
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 1832
Loc: Kitsap Peninsula
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The mudshark has an theme song by Frank and The Mothers of Invention, so they got that going for 'em.
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