Big Sticks return to PP was on a conditional basis. He came back under another alias, and in good faith I stepped forward and gave him his old ID back, and asked him to follow the rules & treat others with respect around here. I also did this as something of a favor to Stam because he vouched for him and because I considered Stam a friend. That was my only mistake here, because anyone I would call my friend wouldn't take a shot at me like he did above. I'm not about to fall into Stick's trap of participating in an arguement, because that's exactly what he wants. I'll take the high road, thanks...

It didn't take long for BS to start bashing people again, and I gave him a couple days on the bench to think about his behavior here. I made it very clear that I did not want him to insult others and post incessantly on every topic, and that if he wanted to remain a contributing member here.... to play nice. My words were ignored, and with his actions, he basically told me to fuckoff. Stam was right that things are not always as they seem. In this case, they were much worse than they seemed, as I grew very tired of deleting tons of his derogatory and insulting posts towards other members. I don't expect all of you to understand because this was mostly invisible to you.

I'm not going to allow this website to become a cesspool for him to come take a dump in every day. If he wants to spew his self-centric crap, he can go to his own website and bellow to all of his ballwashers there. I'm sure it isn't as much fun as all the attention he received here on PP because the audience is a lot smaller....I wonder why?


Bob and Corey have entrusted me to help mantain the integrity of this forum because they knew I had a good idea of what's right and wrong, ...of what's acceptable and not acceptable around here. This website is more much more lax than other sites, but there are still rules of engagement that can't be ignored. If you need a refresher, the link is at the bottom of the page.

I'm not about to betray that trust, or give anyone a "bye" to not follow the rules. I'm also not going to ignore my gut feelings on what's right and wrong.

This is a place for all of us to share ideas, reports, stories, ask questions, debate, argue about fishing, hunting, the politics thereof, and all of the rest of the interesting things this world has to offer. It's not a place to insult other's because they are any more or less of a sportsman than anyone else, which is apparently Stick's modus operandi.

Further, There are plenty of fantastic anglers you can learn from here who won't bash you in the process. Fisherman who don't stand over a pool of 2000 salmon or 200 steelhead and thump their chest for being a 'good angler.' Just callin' it like I see it....

Finally, This place is also a far cry from I-fish and how it's moderated. That's a big stretch that I don't comprehend, and borderline insulting in itself.

+1

Free BigStick!

"It didn't take long for BS to start bashing people again, and I gave him a couple days on the bench to think about his behavior here. I made it very clear that I did not want him to insult others and post incessantly on every topic, and that if he wanted to remain a contributing member here.... to play nice."


Pot meet kettle.

First I think the Mods do a great job, it is thankless and I would not do it. Second I agree with Twitch that it feels like an extended group of friends who could shoot the [censored] around the campfire. I would add that the group is diverse, we have doctors, lawyers and Indian Chiefs and everything else. We are not always going to agree, but we have to stay with in boundaries. Those who push the boundaries are fun ( think SOL) those who violate the boundaries after being warned, well they make their own bed, now they have to sleep in it. I remember talking to a PP member around a campfire once, about internet bravado, If Stam is right about BS he defines just that. All of the board members I have met, to an individual match there internet persona.. Anyway Alaskan winters are long and lots of time staring at the monitor and not being able to add your two cents worth.. well that is punishment enough

So laffin'

Classic picture! BS is jerking off to PP.

Seriously though, BS cracks me up. It can sometimes be hard to wade through his writing, which is, if nothing else, consistently strange and derogatory. He is definitely a polarizing character on this message board, and if I had to characterize his internet persona I would say he is generally a blowhard douchebag.

However, it is wrong to think someone is anything like their internet persona, because nobody really is. In real life I am an a-hole, and I have only caught like 3 fish, and those were in the pond at the Puyallup fair. I would like to meet BS off-line and see what he is really like, because clearly he is dialed in, in his fish and game pursuits.

BTW, BS I am going to be in Hollis for a while next Aug/Sept, dates to be confirmed this spring.

The trouble with being entertained by Stick's posts is that it's like being entertained by someone who tells the joke about the Special Olympics (even if you win, you're still retarded.) In many circles, including PP, you get a bye to do it once. But if you're entertained by that form of humor repeatedly, what positive thing does it say about you?

I can't believe I'm contributing to this waste of bandwidth, guessing that BS is sitting in front of his monitor, so laffin'.

Ya, one outa every ten posts---I write somtin that make sense. Damn, I miss him!

The rules are few and far between on PP, the other 3 large boards around here would have axed most of us long ago. Moderating is an entirely thankless job that few on here would do for long--- ask Parker. I meet Big Stick and liked him well enough, but on the internet he likes to push the boundries and make his own rules to live(and die) by. How about we set him up where his posts have to be moderator approved before they are seen by PP members? The problem with banning BS is that anybody on POW Island also gets the axe because IP address For POW gets banned.

Jerry,

Have to agree with the thanklessness of moderating. BTW, thanks for the job that you do!

I think reinstating BS would be a disservice to the board's integrity, you know, the say what you mean; mean what you say kinda' thing. As for POW having a single IP address, it would be a problem if POW were a vital part of the PP community. I haven't noticed anyone else posting from there, so is it a real problem? Aside from some cool wildlife photos, how many oversize pics of dead fish and game do we need on this site? I think the better alternative is for Stick to create his own website, and his ballwashers and admirers can go there and worship him. It would be fitting and consistent with his narcissist psyche to compete to be better than everyone, letting his website stats fall where they may.

Sg

It was like giving a 16 year old driver a Ferrari. The crash, explosion, and fireball was inevitable!!!

"I still don't care."

I still don't.

Readers can only go by what's posted here. He might be a cool guy in person, but on here he's an ass.
I guess the surprising number of leg riders he had this time around should have been an indication of how many defenders he would have when he got banned.

Leg Riders

How about Stick Swingers?

I think gathering some followers because he's obviously good at catching fish and shooting game is cool...and being a bit struck by his excellent photographs is par for the course...but the others who probably can't talk because they're busy gargling his sack and bruising their knees are kinda pathetic...no matter who they are, or what board they're on.

Fish on...

Todd

The part about approving BS's post would only work if a moderator had enough time in the day to read and edit all of them, I don't have that kind of patience.

Best time to post is during Jerry's nap time.

We got a WINNER !!! Fine post Stam !!

As usual, I missed all the drama preceding the boot and deletion of the bloody crime scene....

BS's persona and prose reminded me of one Clete Purcell, a character in James Lee Burke's crime novels. Both are entertaining in their proper fictional context. Neither have a substantive impact in my daily life. The real Stick probably could. I do wish that the real man behind the BS persona could show up somewhat in this venue and share some of his knowledge, stories and spectacular photography from life's unique experiences up north rather than playing the part of an internet, ultramag tough guy.

Stick, you're a big dude. You have big rifles, big fish, big chainsaws, big opinions and maybe even a big heart for those close to you. In real life, I'd bet that you're someone that would be truly appreciated in camp when it comes time to pack out a Yukon moose or add laughter to the midnight howl of a wolf while the campfire make a glass of Pendleton glow like the northern lights. Your also likely a big enough man to privately apologize regardless of the outcome. Until the mods decide to give you another chance or your own forum, I wish *you* the best....

Since we are idea-generating here, I wish to have ball-gargling and a Stick-swinging emoticons added to our list to choose from

P.S.: Hey JG and Sky-Guy: You can't make 100% of the people happy 100% of the time, and I for one thank you guys for the time you put into the Daily Show.

What about taking up a moderator-collection to send them to a relaxing seaweed spa someplace?