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#538844 - 09/18/09 03:42 AM Love to sit and fling poo atcha..
Irie Offline
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Registered: 11/26/06
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Loc: South Sound
But I have a backyard full of Coyotes!

F*ckers got my last two cats.

Time to kill the lights and grab the infrared.

Anyone else have this problem?

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#538845 - 09/18/09 04:37 AM Re: Love to sit and fling poo atcha.. [Re: Irie]
Salmonella Offline
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My kneejerk response based on my wolf post and our extreme political differences is to not interfere and let nature take it's course.
flog

However I have the same problem.
The muthaf*ckkers have awakened me the last two nights in a row with their howling and I fear for my cat's life.
I have a great cat and would take pride in killing the entite pack of coyotes to make it safer for him.
If they kill him it's f*kkin war.
evil

It is difficult.
You can try calling them and shooting them, but I'd notify neighbors first.
However you might be met with resistance.
Coyotes are almost impossible to catch in a box trap.
With the banning of leghold traps and snares, we are pretty much screwed.

The lefty treehuggers sealed that deal.
Oops.
blush

You can also try calling the gov't office of animal damage control.
You might have to dramatize the call , but they will send out the gov't trapper & he will address the problem.
They are good at what they do.


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#538851 - 09/18/09 08:11 AM Re: Love to sit and fling poo atcha.. [Re: Salmonella]
ParaLeaks Offline
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Coyotes are common around here. They are great rodent killers and don't bother much that I've noticed. They used to get an occasional duck when I had them around to control slugs and snails, but no loss. I finally did the last of the ducks in when they found the dog food and started crapping all over the porch. The ducks managed to over populate in spite of eagles, hawks, owls, and coyotes. And they weren't fenced, either.
I have no affinity towards cats, no special interest in them one way or the other, actually. I view them as wanton killers and of no special use. I have a couple of neighbors who are cat lovers, one of which would shoot the coyotes, the other has a "they're on their own" attitude. Guess which one I get along with? smile
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#538861 - 09/18/09 10:26 AM Re: Love to sit and fling poo atcha.. [Re: ]
Timber Offline
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Registered: 05/27/00
Posts: 2447
Loc: Stumpy Acres
I have the same issue with yotes around my place. They chase my daughters cat in broad daylight right up a tree next to the house. Since July I have 5 kills and there is still plenty around. 2 days ago they chased my wifes dog across the field but stopped when they got close to the barn. So the hunt is on again.


Try one of these and a spotlight.

Extreme Dimension Phantom Pro-Series Wired Digital Calling System with Remote.


Here is what it has and it works. Distressed rabbit and yote pups works best..

Whitetail - Snort-Wheeze, Dominant Grunt, Social Grunt, Tending Grunt, Estrus Bleat, Fawn Distress, Buck Battle, Social Sparring, Antler Tree Rub, Ground Scrape, Forage Paw, Deer Step.
Moose - Bull Battle, Raking Bushes, Social Grunt, Dominant Grunts, Young Bull, Estrus Cow, Hyper Estrus Cow, Agitated Cow, Calf, Moose Mating, Walking in Water, Urinating.
Gobbler - Crow, Owl, Gobble, Yelps, Raspy Yelps, Fly-Down Cackle, Cluck, Purr, Cutting, Spit and Drum, Kee-Kee Run, Scratching.
Predator - Coyote Howls, Coyote Pups, Jack Rabbit Distress, Fawn Distress, Baby Pig Distress, Feline Distress, Rabbit Distress, Bird Distress, Rodent Squeaks, Crow Gathering, Thrashing Leaves, Ground Hops.

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#538873 - 09/18/09 11:22 AM Re: Love to sit and fling poo atcha.. [Re: Timber]
Sol Duc Offline
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I see on average 2-3 yotes a week during day light hours. I saw one last April with a dead cat in it's mouth, he was about 30 yards from me..I could see the collar and tags on the cat. The yotes around here must eat a lot of persimmons, I see what appears to be seeds in their scat..is this common ? Did you know those f'rs can hit 35 mph ?
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#538889 - 09/18/09 12:53 PM Re: Love to sit and fling poo atcha.. [Re: Sol Duc]
chasbo Offline
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Registered: 10/09/07
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Loc: oly
they make a nice jacket

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#538893 - 09/18/09 12:58 PM Re: Love to sit and fling poo atcha.. [Re: Irie]
The Moderator Offline
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Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 13942
Loc: Tuleville
Originally Posted By: Irie
F*ckers got my last two cats.

Time to kill the lights and grab the infrared.


Why? Seems like with your last two cats now gone, your problems are over. wink

Ok, here's my urban coyote story of the day. All true.

Microsoft buddy of mine has a big place over in the 'burbs of Redmond. Big house on a couple acre property out in the boonies. He's got goats, alpacas, llamas, chickens, ducks, etc, and of course, all this "food" attracted some coyotes. Over time, he kept losing his ducks ,geese, chickens, and whatnots until he finally got fed up with it and called us up for some backup firepower.

The plan was simple on that cold and dark December evening. Have some dinner, smoke a cigar, have some bourbon, dress up head-to-toe in cammo, grab the long and scatter guns, hop in our pre-made blinds, fire up the predator call, call in the doggies and shoot them back to Coyote Hell.

Easy as pie????

The evening was upon us and it was a very clear yet cold late December evening. Dinner was exceptional as was the cigar and Blanton's Bourbon. Around the witching hour, it was determined to go out and bag us some doggies, so we geared up in our cammo, loaded up our weapons and headed out to our pre-determined shooting spots.

Shooting Spots #1 and #2 were up on the roof of his house, slightly back from the callers in the blind, but up high with a good vantage point. The shooters were armed with H-BAR class M4/M16 type .223 both equipped with optics (no night sights). No one actually thought these guys would get any shot off, as even though it was a full moon night, it was pretty damn dark out there.

A few yards in front of the house was the fence that separated the property from the pasture and Coyote No-Man's Land where all the animals were kept, house, or roamed. That's where shooters #3-6 were station, including caller #1 (me). We piled up brush, weeds, etc to make little blinds along the fence where we could tucker on down and hide ourselves waiting for a doggie to approach. The wind was in our face and we knew it was a pretty solid plan. Shooters #3-6 were armed with 12 ga. scatter guns with various rounds in the chamber, including high-velocity pelleted rounds, slugs, .00 buck, and probably a Dragon's Breath round or two (for illumination purposes only, of course).

As a side not to this story, as the lone caller, I've had some experience calling in ducks, geese, and turkeys, but never really any coyotes. So, I got online and found a site that was very helpful in explaining what calls to use, when, and what cadence to use and when, etc. With a little practice on my predator call, I got pretty good at simulating a rabbit that was getting eaten by a Chubacabra. Hell, any sane Coyote in a 2-mile radius was gonna come running at the sound of this, right? I also know that having another different call was a must, but the only other call I had was a turkey scratcher. So, I brought that with me too.

Back to the story - We took a rooster and tied a rope to his leg and staked him to the ground about 20 yards in front of us as "bait". Poor damn rooster had no idea what he was in for, but didn't seem to care that he was stacked to rope to the ground and just pecked at things on the ground. About 75 yards out in front of us, were the big animals in another enclosed type area. They were off down by a pond and were out of harms way. Past that enclosed area, 100+ yards past us was the Coyote No-Man's land. We figured the doggies would be comming up from here and on in to us. Was going to be an ambush type fight with us on the defensive, but we were ready.

We all got settled in to our positions and let everything sit and quiet down for about 30 minutes. The moon was full and it was about 25 degrees outside. Still dark as stout, even though we had a full moon. Probably a little too dark, but I could see the rooster and could easily see 25 yards on either side of him. Plenty enough time and space to ambush a doggie on the prowl!

I pulled out my predator call and let loose with the pre-determined call cadence: Chubacabra had just mutilated a rabbit!!!! The world erupted in chaos after that blast of noise! Several dogs from miles around started barking! All the animals down by the pond got startled and started running around in a panic! Geese started honking and the ducks started quacking.

Excellent! That should bring something in.

So, I continued with another round of calls. Mind you, at this very same time, I'm almost paralyzed with laughter. As soon as every animal in a 5 mile radius started to freak out at my predator calling ability, I lost it. I literally was crying because I was laughing so hard. Yet, not to lose on the hunt, I had to laugh silently, or at least as silent as I could. I can't tell you how HARD it is to laugh and use a predator call at the same time.

I called for a few minutes, paused, called, paused, and did what I was suppose to do. The animals were still agitated so I say and waited for about 15 minutes.

Knowing that I needed something else, I brought out the turkey call and let loose with some good old fashioned turkey yelps! Impressive, or so I thought. "Tuuuuurk, tuurk, turk, turk, turk, turk, turk......"

All of a sudden pure hell broke out in the animal pen - where we forgot that we had left all the geese, ducks, chickens, etc. No one had thought to actually round up the "bait" and secure them at the house. Right as I had finished my last turkey chirp, something crashed in to the animal pen causing anything that *could* fly, *to* fly. 4 geese came flying in the 100 yards from the pen in at us, landed at the fence line, and made a mad dash towards the house. Ducks and chickens could be heard flapping and quacking. The big animals were running around all bothered.

It was obvious something was amiss and shooters #3 and #4 grabbed a spotlight and made a charge towards the perimeter. The rest was a blur, but after a 15 minute search of the area, it was reported that "quite a few sets of eyes" could be seen off in the distance and that they were "probably coyote" too scared to come in any closer and probably would not.

Damn! The hunt was over. It was late, we were cold, so we eventually packed up and went home. Oh well, we failed in our mission, and all was well that ends well.....

Until I got the email from the homeowner the next morning. Actually, it was from his wife and it went something like this:

"Dear Asshats,

Thanks for coming over last night and enjoying our dinner, smokes, and fine bourbons, as well as causing a wild ruckus at 1:00 am. When I went out to feed the animals at 7:00 am, I found 6 dead and partially eaten ducks, 4 dead and partially eaten chickens, and 1 mauled goose. Now, we haven more ducks, no more chickens, and 3.75 geese left.

Seems not only did you NOT kill any coyotes last night, but your efforts to call them in worked - as in you called them ALL in to dinner last night. I'm pretty sure every coyote in a 10-mile radius of our house invaded the property last night.

PS. You also left Mr. Rooster tied to a stake. For some reason, he was left unharmed."

So, there you go. I called in an Epic Pack of Coyotes and led them to their dinner.

Let me know if you need any help, Irie! I've still got the calls! wink

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#538909 - 09/18/09 01:44 PM Re: Love to sit and fling poo atcha.. [Re: The Moderator]
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That's hilarious Parker...a good laugh to start the day!

Great story.
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#538913 - 09/18/09 02:05 PM Re: Love to sit and fling poo atcha.. [Re: RowVsWade]
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I give that story 4 stars... and 2 thumbs thumbs!

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#538914 - 09/18/09 02:13 PM Re: Love to sit and fling poo atcha.. [Re: Castingpearls]
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Great story Parker. Got me laughing.

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#538916 - 09/18/09 02:21 PM Re: Love to sit and fling poo atcha.. [Re: seastrike]
NOFISH Offline
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Well written and relayed Parker applause

That made my eyes water lol cryriver
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#538917 - 09/18/09 02:22 PM Re: Love to sit and fling poo atcha.. [Re: seastrike]
The Moderator Offline
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Posts: 13942
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I looked through my stuff and even found the website I used to help call in coyotes.

http://www.wcp-nm.com/coyotes/how2call.htm

Hate to say it, but this guy knows his stuff about them doggies and his calling technique does work. Well, it works on Redmond Coyotes, anyways! wink
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#538918 - 09/18/09 02:26 PM Re: Love to sit and fling poo atcha.. [Re: seastrike]
Sol Duc Offline
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thumbs Good Parker.
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#538933 - 09/18/09 03:15 PM Re: Love to sit and fling poo atcha.. [Re: ]
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Nothing like a good plan coming together.
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#538934 - 09/18/09 03:17 PM Re: Love to sit and fling poo atcha.. [Re: ]
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Great Story Parker. We have recently been notified by our neighborhood group, way out in the "boonies" here in Woodinville rofl, that a pack of at least 6 'yotes has taken up residence in the greenbelt at the end of our street...

....and at the same time all the telephone poles in the neighborhood are being plastered with sign's "Lost Cat" Lost Dog" "Lost Cat"

True Story...This was about 4-5 years ago.
When I lived between Bothell and Lynnwood, off Locust Way, a lady down the street lost a full sized (13-14 hand) horse to a pack of Coyotes when it attacked the horse in her backyard pasture one morning. The whole neighborhood was stunned that they could take down such a large animal.


I guess when you get hungry enough.....





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#538956 - 09/18/09 04:49 PM Re: Love to sit and fling poo atcha.. [Re: ]
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Why? Seems like with your last two cats now gone, your problems are over.

Spit coffee all over monitor (Same thing I was thinking)
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#538971 - 09/18/09 05:52 PM Re: Love to sit and fling poo atcha.. [Re: Castingpearls]
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"they make a nice jacket"

Coyotes do make nice jackets but best wait until colder weather when they've pelted up.
As far as cats, it is the pits when a pet cat gets nabbed but since feral cats do more harm to wild birds than a bunch of kids with bb guns, it just a case of losing the good with the bad, IMO.
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#538981 - 09/18/09 06:17 PM Re: Love to sit and fling poo atcha.. [Re: goforchrome]
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Originally Posted By: goforchrome
Spit coffee all over monitor


Sorry. My bad. I've got a bottle of some pretty good LCD screen cleaning stuff you can borrow. laugh

Hey, at least you didn't shoot the coffee out your nose and on and in to your keyboard.

laugh
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#539069 - 09/18/09 10:09 PM Re: Love to sit and fling poo atcha.. [Re: Chuck E]
Irie Offline
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Loc: South Sound
Parker, that's completely fvckin' AWESOME! laugh

I'm a little too close-in and my neighbors are way too anal for WWIII.

I picked the neighborhood full of retired cops and school teachers.

I'm looking into one of those new-fangled .17HMR rifles or a cage trap.

And for the record, I couldn't give a schit less about the kitty-cats, but my daughter sure does.

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#539396 - 09/20/09 01:20 AM Re: Love to sit and fling poo atcha.. [Re: Chuck E]
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Funniest damn post I've read in a long time!
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#539397 - 09/20/09 01:23 AM Re: Love to sit and fling poo atcha.. [Re: Twitch]
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Loc: Oregon Central Coast
Irie, wish I was closer to you... spent many a day perfecting the art of killing coyotes. Easy to perfect ones skills when employed on a 54,000 acre ranch. I also have traps. Are (leghold) traps an option where you are (that is, what is the likely hood of catching the neighbors retriever?) I'd be glad to give ya some tips.
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#539400 - 09/20/09 02:28 AM Re: Love to sit and fling poo atcha.. [Re: ]
ISO Chrome
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You need anyone to do some calling for you, give me a shout. I started varmint hunting back in 1977, and even placed well in the Nat'l competitions in the early 80's.

Problem is, you start blowing a call around a neighborhood and every damn dog there will be going nuts...LOL

Twitch: We should get together and go bust a few song-dogs...been a lot of years but I ain't forgot how. shoot

Still...it might be fun!

Mike



Edited by ISO Chrome (09/20/09 02:30 AM)

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#539401 - 09/20/09 03:51 AM Re: Love to sit and fling poo atcha.. [Re: ]
Irie Offline
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Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 4317
Loc: South Sound
I live in a neighbourhood where every other house has at least one retriever/hound/terrier. A call would set of everything within a mile.

Leg Traps were banned in this state a few years back w/o a 'special' permit.
I'm told Coyotes are too clever for cage traps.

Maybe I can rig up an oversized snare like on Road Runner. Use the coyote's own inventions against them. Maybe with 1/8th inch aircraft cable and a winch I can pull taught a 50' doug fir and rig up a bait snare that severs their spinal column at the 10th vertebrae, launching their upper torso skyward and leaving their hindquarters and thorax down on the ground still twitching.

It may be worth looking into.

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#539410 - 09/20/09 10:31 AM Re: Love to sit and fling poo atcha.. [Re: Irie]
Salmonella Offline
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Registered: 11/29/04
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I've used snares, They are superbly efficient.
No bait needed & they work 24/7.
Just find the coyote hair on the barbs of a fence where they come under it on a travel corridor.
Hang the snare at head height and make the loop big enough for their head including the ears.
The traveling Coyote comes trotting through and Voila!

They choke out very quickly without the hours of agony felt by legholds, if you want something a tad more humane (?)

The bad news?

They work just as well on Rover, the neighbors dog.
If you have neighbors that let their dogs roam at night the snares will clean up that mess in short order.
Going out to check the snare with your kid and finding your own dog strangled might not go over so well either.
Best not to use them in urban areas as returning a dog with a sore foot beats returning one with rigor mortis and bulged out eyes.

eek2 eek2 eek2 eek2

They are also classified as "body gripping devices" and illegal in places that have banned trapping.

Again, I'd call your Animal damage control office.
They are there exactly for this type of thing.
They can legally use all of the above methods to remove the offenders.

Here in California since the do gooders banned the hunting of Mountain Lions, their numbers have skyrocketted.
A good friend is mine is our local animal damage control agent (government trapper).
He has killed 10 Mountain Lions around my house in about the last eight years.
The lions find 4H animals far easier to catch than deer.
The last one killed a neighbors goat and drug it under my deck a few years back while we were in Oregon deer hunting.



This one killed some sheep across the creek from my place...



(faces blacked out due to the fact that I did not ask them if they wanted to be on www)




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#539500 - 09/20/09 08:53 PM Re: Love to sit and fling poo atcha.. [Re: Irie]
ozzy Offline
Parr

Registered: 03/16/09
Posts: 46
Loc: Auburn wa.
Originally Posted By: Irie
But I have a backyard full of Coyotes!

F*ckers got my last two cats.

Time to kill the lights and grab the infrared.

Anyone else have this problem?




If you want to get some more cats get dark colored cats.
They last longer then lighter colored cats around Coyotes.
Harder to see at night.they still smell them but harder to locate them.

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