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#542295 - 10/01/09 03:58 PM Re: Is this what Obamacare would look like? [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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Sure I do. It's a great place to deport Republicans to.
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#542440 - 10/01/09 10:20 PM Re: Is this what Obamacare would look like? [Re: stlhead]
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Originally Posted By: stlhead
Sure I do. It's a great place to deport Republicans to.
That's contradictory.
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#543165 - 10/04/09 12:33 PM Re: Is this what Obamacare would look like? [Re: ]
frankiej Offline
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Registered: 09/06/07
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I was going to let it slide, but since you asked...

What is it you have against the AHIP reform propsals? It reads to me like they match up almost word for word with your complaints.

"Our proposal includes new consumer protections and market rules to guarantee coverage for pre-existing conditions, discontinue basing premiums on a person’s health status or gender, and get everyone covered" - http://www.ahip.org/content/pressrelease.aspx?docid=28003

“As the process progresses, health plans will continue working with members of Congress to enact bipartisan legislation this year that will cover all Americans, make coverage more affordable, and improve quality.” - http://www.ahip.org/content/pressrelease.aspx?docid=28332

"All Americans need to have affordable, portable coverage." -http://www.americanhealthsolution.org/assets/Uploads/ahipreformpolicyproposal.pdf


Anyway, I'd like to see just a few details about why you're against universal coverage, against ending pre-existing conditions exclusions, against removing Evidence of Insurability in individual policies which would guarantee coverage for anyone who applies, regardless of health, and why you're against coverage that would streamline administrative processes and create a universal treatment database to show the best way to treat disease.

I just want to know what changed your mind, since you were so adamant earlier that these are the types of changes that need to happen.



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#543314 - 10/05/09 09:16 AM Re: Is this what Obamacare would look like? [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: blue water pro


I don't trust Big Business just as much as some don't trust government.





There's a difference?
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#543586 - 10/06/09 12:38 AM Re: Is this what Obamacare would look like? [Re: ]
John Lee Hookum Offline
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Registered: 10/12/01
Posts: 2453
Loc: Area 51
You didn't get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and appointed a President.

You didn't get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate energy policy.

You didn't get mad when a covert CIA operative got outed.

You didn't get mad when the Patriot Act got passed.

You didn't get mad when we illegally invaded a country that posed no threat to us.

You didn't get mad when we spent over 900 billion(and counting) on said illegal war.

You didn't get mad when over 10 billion dollars just disappeared in Iraq .

You didn't get mad when you saw the Abu Grahib photos.

You didn't get mad when you found out we were torturing people..

You didn't get mad when the government was illegally wiretapping Americans.

You didn't get mad when we didn't catch Bin Laden.

You didn't get mad when you saw the horrible conditions at Walter Reed.

You didn't get mad when we let a major US city drown.

You didn't get mad when the deficit hit the trillion dollar mark.

You finally got mad when the government decided that people in America deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick.

Yes, illegal wars, lies, corruption, torture, stealing your tax dollars to make the rich richer, are all okay with you, but helping other Americans... oh hell no
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