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#541555 - 09/28/09 11:02 PM Re: Salmon Bellies and Collars [Re: ]
Eric Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 3426
Originally Posted By: FishPrince
I can't believe all you people eat these greasy skanky tasting salmon bellies, even leaving them on the fillet almost ruins the whole fillet. I can't believe somebody would eat just the belly. A fillet without the belly and other fatty areas tastes fresh, clean and healthy. The belly is just greasy skank meat. It's like eating the fat off of a steak. I cut the fat off my steak and throw up in my mouth a little bit just thinking of eating the fat by itself. It may be OK for Jack Sprat's wife but not for me.

It makes great bait, it's oils keep scenting for a while. I wouldn't call that a waste.

I won't even go into the fatty areas being where they concentrate toxins.



Are you serious?

Read up on the health benefits of Omega-3 fatty acids. On a side note, I don't cut the belly's away from the fillet, I just think they are the tastiest, most succulent part of a fillet.

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#541559 - 09/28/09 11:17 PM Re: Salmon Bellies and Collars [Re: Eric]
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I am the chairman of a new charity known as "Bellies for Nelly" or BTN for short.
Please forward all fatty portions of salmonids and I will (burp!), dispose of them properly...
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#541563 - 09/28/09 11:33 PM Re: Salmon Bellies and Collars [Re: TJN]
Sol Duc Offline
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Smoked Salmon bellies are much prized in this household !
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#541611 - 09/29/09 01:01 AM Re: Salmon Bellies and Collars [Re: ]
fish4brains Offline
Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah

Registered: 08/23/06
Posts: 6206
Loc: zipper
Originally Posted By: FishPrince
Leaving the belly on makes a spring chinook taste like a chum. I don't like chum. Or Char. Or Herring. Or Smelt. Or Anchovies. Or Sardines. Or Tuna. Or Cod Liver Oil. Or Salmon Bellies. I eat fish for meat, not for oil.

I do like Salmon, Halibut, Cod and Rockfish. But I do not eat the fat, I eat the meat. I also will eat all types of shellfish.

It's like deer, if you cut of the fat, the lean is good, if you leave it on it is skanky.

You must be the one who doesn't know how to cook salmon if it needs more oils by leaving the belly on.

Here's how I do it:

Fillet fish, cut off bellies and fatty areas around fins. I splash a little beer on it if I'm drinking some, if not I use some white wine I keep in the fridge for cooking purposes. Then I put it on my smoker BBQ and slow cook it at a low temperature for around an hour or until it's done. It's smoking the whole time. When cooked this way, no fats come out of the meat, they are still in there, the fillet is super moist and you don't need the oily belly to add fat. You'll get more than enough omega 3's.

The way I see most people cook salmon is with way to hot of a temperature, if you see white snot oozing from your meat, your doing it wrong and over cooking it. A little fat drips off of springers and summer steelhead the way I do it, but because of the low temperature it is a clear grease not the coagulated white snot.

I am up on the Omega 3 fatty acids. Are you up on the biomagnification of toxins like mercury, dioxin, DDT or PCBs?

Did you know that the maximum weekly consumption for a grown man for oily fish like salmon is 1 lb per week. I eat at least that, which is why I don't worry about getting enough fish oil in my diet, but rather too much. I don't need to prove to that too much omega-3 fat is bad, it's been done, google it up.

If you eat a lot of fish, you will find eating the fatty parts repulsive.

Also, a rib steak is better because the meat is more tender, it has nothing to do with the fat. I grew up on a farm and ate real grass fed beef which is lean, it tastes much better. That hormone injected BSE containing marbled fatty crap they sell at the store is garbage that I wouldn't feed to my dog. Buy a "low grade" rib steak (which has less fat, according to the USDA the more fat it has the higher the grade) cut off the fat from the edges (which will be all the fat it won't be marbled with fat), cook that up next to a sirloin, you will see that the rib steak is more tender, it has nothing to do with fat.

Like I said, I put my Salmon Bellies to good use, as bait. You guys are eating bait, how nasty is that?


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#541614 - 09/29/09 01:05 AM Re: Salmon Bellies and Collars [Re: ]
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Registered: 11/24/03
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Originally Posted By: FishPrince
Leaving the belly on makes a spring chinook taste like a chum.


Good Golly Miss Molly.

Methinks my bull$hit meter just hit red-line.
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#541617 - 09/29/09 01:18 AM Re: Salmon Bellies and Collars [Re: eyeFISH]
ParaLeaks Offline
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Yeah, so there....you bait eaters! sick

Is Bait Eaters Anonymous in the phone book? I think I'm addicted.
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#541619 - 09/29/09 01:22 AM Re: Salmon Bellies and Collars [Re: ParaLeaks]
fish4brains Offline
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Registered: 08/23/06
Posts: 6206
Loc: zipper
Originally Posted By: Slab Happy
I think I'm addicted.


Haven't seen any beach caught coho pics yet... grin don't eat the brown acid!
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#541625 - 09/29/09 01:43 AM Re: Salmon Bellies and Collars [Re: eyeFISH]
fishkisser99 Offline
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Registered: 12/12/99
Posts: 520
Loc: Eastsound, WA, USA
Hey, I admit I may be entering low in this thread, but I have a related question.

I usually dry brine, and will often remove and dry bellies and put on the smoker even 4-6 hours before the rest of the batch, on the top rack. What results is something like jerky, which I totally love, and a single brushing of honey early on seems to help.

So.

Thicker pieces don't seem to jerk as quick, or at all, really, and instead get dried out and taste like salted cardboard. Does anybody have a decent jerk recipe? (Please spare me your FOX news commentator joke, ok?)

Do I just need to slice the pieces thinner, or is the oil in the bellies key to the magic salmon-candy taste after a day and a half in the lil' smoker?

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#541630 - 09/29/09 02:29 AM Re: Salmon Bellies and Collars [Re: fishkisser99]
BroodBuster Offline
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Registered: 07/11/04
Posts: 3091
Loc: Bothell, Wa
I leave them on the fillet and eat them straight off the grill while waiting for the rest of the fish to finish! Yum!
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#541635 - 09/29/09 02:59 AM Re: Salmon Bellies and Collars [Re: BroodBuster]
LoweDown Offline
Conquistador

Registered: 08/07/06
Posts: 1759
Loc: Forks, WA
FishPrince,

You are clueless.

Sincerely,
LoweDown.

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#541638 - 09/29/09 03:44 AM Re: Salmon Bellies and Collars [Re: LoweDown]
Achewter Offline


Registered: 02/02/04
Posts: 2237
Loc: N of Seattle
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Hey ORB(Francis) let me know when your done smoking that nasty bucket of collars and bellies I left in your cooler and I'll come down and help save you from the nasty mess
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#541641 - 09/29/09 08:19 AM Re: Salmon Bellies and Collars [Re: Achewter]
Jerry Garcia Offline



Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 9013
Loc: everett
I cut the bellies from the fillet and grill both at the same time and the bellies come off first and are my treat.
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#541650 - 09/29/09 09:50 AM Re: Salmon Bellies and Collars [Re: Jerry Garcia]
mreyns_tgl Offline
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Registered: 11/06/03
Posts: 3323
Loc: Port Angeles
yep, if the bellies are cut off it makes them easy to eat before anyone else can get to them wink

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#541654 - 09/29/09 10:00 AM Re: Salmon Bellies and Collars [Re: mreyns_tgl]
gilly Offline
Hazmat

Registered: 04/27/04
Posts: 908
Loc: on the river
I like to keep the Collars and the Carcass. Clean blood from carcass, split in half. Salt, pepper, and dill. Wrap in tin foil and bake for about 10 minutes. Strip meat from carcass. Makes for a great dip. Eat Collars while working on caracass.

Matt
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#541656 - 09/29/09 10:11 AM Re: Salmon Bellies and Collars [Re: gilly]
stonefish Offline
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Registered: 12/11/02
Posts: 5186
Loc: Carkeek Park
That sounds good Gilly. I'm going to give that a try.
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#541682 - 09/29/09 12:15 PM Re: Salmon Bellies and Collars [Re: stonefish]
RogueFanatic Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 07/31/08
Posts: 331
Loc: Kitsap Co.
Like Matt said, lotsa good stuff on the carcass. Steam it for about 8-10 minutes, strip the meat which goes into the food processor with the some cream cheese, Old Bay seasoning, dash of Worcestershire, and some scallions. Can't get better bagel shmear than that.

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#541685 - 09/29/09 12:27 PM Re: Salmon Bellies and Collars [Re: stonefish]
Wernergonefishin Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 01/20/02
Posts: 132
Loc: Chehalis Wa
Since my fillet jobs suck badly I often to will fire up the Tregeor BBQ soon as I get home and cook the carcasses. The oils that come from the bone while cooked are awesome for flavor. All my bellies and collar are cold smoked for 18hrs and then used in our salmon chowder and roasted garlic fettuccine.
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#541703 - 09/29/09 01:10 PM Re: Salmon Bellies and Collars [Re: ]
NOFISH Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/15/00
Posts: 2952
Loc: Olalla, WA
F'n Aye..............Deal with it rofl
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#541704 - 09/29/09 01:27 PM Re: Salmon Bellies and Collars [Re: NOFISH]
Thrasher Offline
Spawner

Registered: 12/11/06
Posts: 708
Loc: Bellingham
Damn Stam!

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#541737 - 09/29/09 04:48 PM Re: Salmon Bellies and Collars [Re: Thrasher]
Divers Offline
Spawner

Registered: 04/21/99
Posts: 936
Loc: Seattle
Smoked - Indian Candy style!

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