Recent poll results from a Yahoo poll. Please note how many people have voted...(nearly 4 million)..

http://js.polls.yahoo.com/quiz/quiziframe.php?poll_id=46067


Q. The president's progress with the battered economy has been both praised and criticized. How well are his efforts measuring up with you?

Extremely well. We are undoubtedly moving in the right direction. 9%
Fairly well. There's still a long way to go. 9%
Not well at all. His plans are hurting more than helping. 80%
Not sure/No opinion. 2%

3,700,013 votes

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Mike

Obama may or may not be as popular as when he was running for President, but presently only 22.5% of Americans claim to be Republicans.

Freespool...link ? MSNBC viewer poll ?

The poll doesn't ask the right question. There should be " Is Obama making the promised changes fast enough?" That's were the discontent is coming from. The lobbyists are still in control. Maybe someday people will finally come to realize that both parties have there roots in the same stinking septic tank.

Here ya go.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...icans-call-the/

three million .... 80%

impressive numbers for a wrong question

I personally don't buy it.....I don't think dissatisfaction is as prominent as portrayed.

That's good news for the GOP.

It means their ranks have doubled since the Bush Administration.

Nice spin. The conservatives never supported Obama so the loss has to come from the moderates and liberals. They voted for him for change which is not happening thus the loss of support.

As soon as he whips out his "free money" card again, they'll all fall in line. The "stimulus" has only just begun. Bring it!

Of course you understand why we are in this "stimulus" mess. If not here is a start:
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/03/07-3

1) I can vote as many times as I want on that poll.

2) it would make sense that all of the unemployed GOP knuckleheads have nothing better to do than number 1.

who cares how much they lost as long as the CEO's got their bonuses

80 % is kind of low. At my house it's 100%.

2010 can't come soon enough and 2012 he's gone.

Captain

"'70s advocate of forced abortions and mass sterilization."

Good idea....less Republicans.

Did any of them inhale?

This might be difficult for some of you, but think logically about this for a second...

Any losses in Obama's popularity did not come from a deep seeded right wing hate of anything that runs left of Atilla the Hun...it would have come from the more liberal wing of the Democratic Party.

Why would it come from them? Easy...because he hasn't yet been able to deliver on some campaign promises to them...public option in health care being one of them.

His popularity ratings are not going down because he's become "too liberal"...they've gone down because he's not satisfying the liberal wing of the Dems.

If he gets a public option into the health care reform bill that finally passes, you'll see a lot of it go right back up...the wing nuts who would disapprove even if he personally cured cancer and solved the Middle East peac problems aren't ever coming around...they've given him poor ratings and always will...it's the farther left that is running the disapproval numbers up.

Fish on...

Todd

Hank ol' bean... you've been sneakin' into the anesthesiologists' cabinet again... ain'tcha?

Dream on my friend... dream on...

62% Favor the Public Option:

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/10/20/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5401123.shtml

57% Favor the Public Option:

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20091020-711426.html

76% Favor Public Option for those who can't afford private insurance:

http://www.abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/Po...tory?id=8863442

Six major polls reviewed, five show support; Nearly 70%, 65%, 82%, 65%, 72%.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/06/public-support-for-public-option.html

The only one not showing support, not surprisingly, is your favorite, the Rasmussen Report, which shows support at a little over 40%.

Even a plurality of self-named Republicans favor a public option (47% to 42%):

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/09/poll-even-republican-voters-favor-the-public-option.php

The Washington Indepent Reports that GOP voters prefer public option:

http://washingtonindependent.com/48140/gop-poll-yes-people-want-a-public-option

Shiot, I was even watching Shepard Smith on FauxNews yesterday afternoon, and even he reported that the majority of Americans, GOP and Democrat, favor the public option:

http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/fox-newss-shep-smith.php



I think you're continued reliance on one single poll...the only one out of all the dozens of polls out there...to keep saying that the public does not want the public option is at best misplaced...and at worst, you know it's misplaced and keep saying it, anyway.

Get with the program, Hank...it's OK if you don't like it, just admit that you are, once again, in the minority...perhaps greatly so.

Fish on...

Todd

Does that last post count as "looking around"...?

I'll submit that reading the Rasmussen poll to the exclusion of all others is the defintion of "not looking around"...

Fish on...

Todd

You're not purposely avoiding your "public option" make believe, are you?

Either way, those who are being lost are the ones who are on the left and aren't getting what they voted for...not people on the right who already didn't agree with him...

Fish on...

Todd

Hank just misses KK... so he's tossin' out an extra large gob o' bait in the hopes he can draw him back in to the mix.

Or... he really IS delusional?

Either way...

Damn this KK must be a journeyman Democrat......he's really good at name calling and clouding the real issues without a definitive logical argument.

Obama is digging his own grave and he's got a good head start. Maybe what's left of ACORN will pick him up after the next election. After all he'll have a good idea of what not to do as a senior community activist.

Captain

Two words.

Rory Bellows

"Damn this KK must be a journeyman Democrat......he's really good at name calling and clouding the real issues without a definitive logical argument.

Obama is digging his own grave and he's got a good head start. Maybe what's left of ACORN will pick him up after the next election. After all he'll have a good idea of what not to do as a senior community activist."

Really good at name calling
(journeyman Democrat)

clouding the real issues
(you didn't list any)

without a definitive logical argument
(again you didn't list issues so I'm pretty sure we can all agree you didn't put forth a "definitive logical argument")

You shall now be referred to as Captain PKB.

Thanks Stlhead!

I have been reading the left wing drizzle on this board for over a year now and I'm still of the same opinion. Our President does not represent my views and I believe he is not good for our country.

Show me a birth certificate, show me transparency, show me integrity and maybe I'll begin to change my opinion of him. Until then I wish him well for our sake but then again I hope his days are numbered as President. Resignation is the only Hope and Change that President Obama has to offer that will be good for our country.

I know better than to jump in here because I learned a long time ago never argue with a fool, they will beat you with experience every time.

Time to be productive and go fishing!

Captain

Rats! I missed the KK enter/exit.
He must be off to continue with that beastiality lobbying. He might just pull off that rider after all (something for everyone in that health plan).
Good Luck.

I heard Obama is going to have the Feds start a tackle company because he feels the cost of spoons and good hooks are too high.

After $300,000,000 study of bank fisherman on NW rivers during the peak of the salmon season, they found most fisherman could only afford a couple of large cheap treble hooks and one heavy sinker, plus they could only fit an old halibut rod with a 30 year old spinning reel into there budget. There was an even less fortunate group that could only afford an old junk net to string across the river, this group didn't even have the funds to check it frequently because of high fuel prices. Others were only able to gather fish in the terminal areas with a club during the night. They determined this group must be working two jobs and could only make it to the river on their limited off hours.

The solution is to impose a 40% tax on all businesses that sell quality tackle to fisherman that don't need to resort to these methods of fishing to put food on the table. This will also include a tax on the fisherman that buy from these quality tackle suppliers.

If needed the government will purchase several tackle companies that they feel have been trying to make a profit off of poor fisherman (as described above) and distribute tackle to them at little or no charge.

If the evil, wealthy fisherman (those that buy quality tackle) decide to not buy tackle based on the new taxes imposed, or if small startup companies that sell very good products go out of business due to lack of sales and high taxes, there is a plan.

The plan will be to fine all fisherman that don't buy the tackle package the government has stipulated they should use, whether the tackle is needed or not. They feel this should help the poor abused lesser fisherman on the banks that make up the backbone of the sport.

New government required takle. This includes better treble hooks in assorted sizes, plus sinkers in various weights. There is also an upgraded package that combines the treble hook and sinker into one unit. Both packages include new 50 lb mono..

Alert, big news!

There were just some new pole results released that showed 87% of the bank fisherman using this type of tackle said it was a very good plan.

Or there's the Dick Cheney method which is F the fish kill em all.

Pull your head out.

"Or there's the Big O plan that won't allow you to catch any fish."

That's right. While you were hiding your guns he had the rod grabbers sneak in.

Why Hank?
As the people you vote for would say "what have you got to hide?"

Good things come to those who wait and aren't Republicans.

"What's changed since the Big O came on board in that respect?"

Has anybody asked you to give up your rights under this admin like they did the last one?

So Hank, it sounds like you are now in agreement that the Bush admin should have been prosecuted? Otherwise precedent has been set right?

Funny, I don't think I ever heard of this plan, or anything like it being proposed, Unlike the plan I described.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not here to defend the Bush administration, I’m here to defend my rights from a government that seems to want to be involved in every decision I make, in fact I think they want to spend every penny I make too, the party isn't the target.

And the opposite equally applies: if you defended and gave bush a pass, you must give Nobel Peace Prize winner President Obama a pass, as well.

By that same line of reasoning, if you wanted Bush prosecuted you must prosecte Obama.

So let me get this straight.

Half of you were washing Bush's balls for doing the sh!t you're bagging on Obama for doing now, and half of you are pretending that Obama isn't doing the same sh!t you were bagging on Bush for doing while he was in office.

Party first, country second.

That's f'n great.

Seems they expected Obama to clean up the entire mess their idiot idol left in a week. I think it's going to take a bit longer to clean up eight years worth of corruption.

It was a plan of action. The Klamath fish kill courtesy of Dick Cheney.

There, fixed it for ya......

There, Fixed it for ya.

Absolutely. When Nobel Peace Prize winner President Obama lies to the people of the United States to justify invading a sovereign nation and endorses torture, by all means, prosecute to the fullest extent.

So you consider lying by a POTUS to the people of the US to be a crime?

For the purpose of waging war...hell yeah!

Let the games begin.

Nice try Hank. Selective memory?

Yeah, that.

Alan,

There was no typo there that required any fixing.

If you thought there was, it's because Bush's sack sitting on your chin is blocking your view.

Really? Since he hasn't RUSHED into dismanteling everything the worst president of all time has done that means he is doing the same things? It's like flipping a switch huh?

"those who are smart enough, know better "

Yeah...the ones who voted for Bush...real smart. Lay off the politics it's not your strong subject.

A small zoo in Forks, Washington, obtained a very rare species of gorilla.

Within a few weeks the gorilla, a female, became very difficult to handle. Upon examination, the veterinarian determined the problem.

The gorilla was in heat. To make matters worse, there was no male gorilla available to service her.

Thinking about their problem, the Zoo Keeper thought of Danny Irie, a redneck part-time worker responsible for cleaning the animal cages. Danny Irie, like most rednecks, had little sense but possessed ample ability to satisfy a female of any species.

The Zoo Keeper thought they might have a solution. Danny I. was approached with a proposition. Would he be willing to mate with the gorilla for $500?

Danny Irie showed some interest, but said he would have to think the matter over carefully. The following day, he announced that he would accept their offer, but only under five conditions:

"First," Danny Irie said, "I ain't gonna kiss her on the lips." The Keeper quickly agreed to this condition.

"Second," he said, "she must wear a 'Dale Earnhardt Forever' T-Shirt." The Keeper again readily agreed to this condition.

"Third," he said, "you can't never tell no one about this." The Keeper again readily agreed to this condition.

"Fourth," Danny H. Irie said, "I want all the children raised Southern Baptist." Once again it was agreed.

"And last," Danny H. Irie said, "I'll need another week to come up with the $500."

Oh MY God!

Hey look.

Alan got that sack off his chin just long enough to type out a joke about f'ing a gorilla.

Here's a funny joke.

What do you call a guy who has GW Bush's ball sack sitting on his chin?





alanmikkelsen

See where Bama"s advisors scored another slam dunk! They opted to leave Fox out of any future press conclaves at the White House. The other networks that were invited said, "no thanks". I guess there are still some sane people out there.
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/10/obama-administration-tries-to-ban-fox.html

I didn't vote for Obama, and I think his term has been largely a failure.

I see little difference between this administration, and the gang of dildos that just left, with few notable exceptions.

Did you have Bush in your avatar with a drink in his hand?

Oh............you didn't like him, but voted for him anyway.

Instead, they lost 40% of the economy. There's something to be proud of.

Just for info. I'm on SS and under medicare. I opted for Med Advantage when I first turned 65. What a nightmare! Nothing was covered. Drugs had higher copay, lab tests had copay, billing was screwed up royally. more BS! I petitioned PEBB to go back to Providence, paid $10 more a month in supplemental and everything is covered. I have to undergo lab tests once a month, covered in full, even by an outside provider.

I keep hearing Medicare is gov. run. More BS! Medicare hands the money held from SS over to Providence and they provide the billing and the care. They do one hell of a job. I couldn't ask for more.

But if this Obama/Stretch Pelosi/Dirty Harry plan goes into effect we'll probably get less!

sounds like a line from the movie Brokeback Mountain!

After reading your posts, I thought that was the idea here.

Single payer in my book means you pay one provider and you have no choice in the matter. I still have a choice-- so far. Maybe you wrote the bill huh? Actually it means the gov. or government entity collects the money and pays the bills.

Never said I saw the movie. I read though.

Just like any frickin idiot you read what you wanted! Read the rest of the post dickwad. Have you been on anything like single payer? It's a friggin nightmare. Medicare 'splains it one way and it doesn't work! You fight for every charge they put on it. That's why I went back to Providence. No hassle. So wait. And no I'm sorry, I don't like your pet goat.


"Single-payer health insurance collects all medical fees and then pays for all services through a single government (or government-related) source.[1] In wealthy nations, this kind of publicly-managed health insurance is typically extended to all citizens and legal residents."

Now read it over carefully or get someone with a grasp to read it to you.

OK genius! Someday when you develop your little pea brain you will understand. Right now the government hands the Medicare money over to your supplemental provider. They mingle it with the money they receive from members and pay the bills. What Medicare doesn't cover they cover. They make the decision, not the gov.

I know it's hard to grasp for some. Just try OK?

Republican and fail seem to go hand in hand. When in control they fail. When not in control they hope for failure.

So proud.

"Except for the wealthiest of all wealthy nations, because profit trumps morals in that nation."

Since when has morals been an issue with the left?

Since they discovered that Jesus was a liberal, I guess.

"So how will you survive when in 2012 the conservative party takes over "

Bushites = problems dealing with reality.

I thought it was all Clintons fault? What we will see is the same exact playbook the Repugs used on Clinton.
1) Four year witchhunt and attempts to spin anything Clinton, however insignificant, into a negative.
2) Absolute shock that he is re-elected for another four.
3) See 1.

No chance. The Rep party has no message other than Obama must fail. There is no love amongst voters for a Rep.

TFF

Where in the Buybull does it say Jesus had big balls?

Chuckie has quite an obsession with balls.

So is it:

A) He and Hankster spend a lot of time together in SF?
B) He wonders what it's like to have a pair?
C) Wishes he wasn't molested as a child.

Jonas will be one of those guys with the non stop cow bell or horn.

Can't help it. That lower life form thing. Like looking through a microscope at germs.

Harstine Island isn't that a leper colony?

Only for short moments on tv. Can't understand anyones enthusiasm for watching soccer.

ChuckS is going for the soccer Moms.

"Guys who harbor an intense interest is sex with animals."

Is that why you hang out here? Hoping to find one?

http://freemarketcure.com/singlepayermyths.php

Perhaps this will make it a little more clear. This way even an idiot can comprehend. Government vs. private? No difference? I'm damn glad you aren't doing my taxes! As I explained and you chose to ignore or couldn't read, whatever, my insurance is not totally medicare. Get it?

OK, you believe what you want to believe. It doesn't change my premiums or my coverage.

I'm sure Nancy has it all worked out for you and me!

It beat the hell out of mowing lawns. I hire my yard work out. That way I can fish every day.

"I love the 'govt' run' thing btw, as if any investor in any company is 'running' it."

Most welfare types do. I prefer to buy my own groceries and insurance. But some people have difficulty making choices and are better left with the gov. doing it for them.

Geez, did you misinterpret something I said? Did I say anything about you mowing lawns? I don't think so.

You mowing lawns is about as ridiculous as me reading meters. Could there be a connection there? Wrong ? Maybe!!

I'm glad the people on the right are proud of the previous president and those on the left seem to love our current president. Makes me wonder what all the back and forth is about. Pretty shitty representation from both parties.

Obama's luster....?

1) He can speak from a teleprompter.
2) He's not Bush.


Wow, that just gives me a thrill running up my leg.

How about an estimated 1.4 trillion dollar deficit? That is real change.

I always find this to be a strange thing that anti-Obamas bring up. Obviously, the statement implies that he can't speak without one. Whether you "like" him or not, that seems like an entirely inaccurate accessment. That seems about as accurate as saying that GWB was a good speaker but just couldn't read from the teleprompter.

I'm not anti-Obama. I'm pretty much anti- huge government. They do nothing for us. It's only about getting re-elected. Your answer is pretty simplistic. Tell me how Shrub would have been K-bobbed over this one. Hell, he couldn't speak with or without one. Cheney could have done us a big favor by pointing his shotgun over his other shoulder and then at himself....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omHUsRTYFAU