http://cjonline.com/news/state/2009-11-06/ks_military_reacts_to_ft_hood_attack

Wow...this is really bad.

I'll hijack my own thread for a second...I found out about this a service provided by American Flagpole, who sends out alerts when the President has ordered that flags be flown at half mast.

Fish on...

Todd

What's really whacked is he was a psychiatrist.

http://www.aflag.com/subscribe.asp

At that link you can sign up to receive Half Mast Notifications.

Fish on...

Todd

Very sad for the soldiers and their families. Also a huge blow to the unit's morale just prior to shipping out. One man has literally decimated (reduce by 1/10th) the fighting capabilities of this unit.

I don't care about this man's feelings. Talk about ultimate betrayal. Do no harm?

A firing squad is too good for this piece of crap. I hope the army moves swiftly and delivers the appropiate justice.

Decimation was used by the roman army against its own troops as punishment. in this piece of sh1ts case, they should use another roman method of justice - bind him, and sew him into a sack with a few animals (cats, dogs, etc.), then toss him in the river. too bad for the cats and dogs....

Blow him up into little bits using blasting caps, one at a time, starting from his toes and fingers and work towards the center, making sure to let each wound heal bfore the next tiny blast. Might take a year or more.

It appears that he did want to go to Iraq. I say nurse him back to health and deploy his ass anyway. Then, when he gets there, hang him.

Tragedy at Ft Hood
Lieutenant Colonel Allen B West (US Army, Retired)


This past Thursday 13 American Soldiers were killed and another 30 wounded at a horrific mass shooting at US Army installation, Ft Hood Texas. As I watched in horror and then anger, I recalled my two years of final service in the Army as a Battalion Commander at Ft Hood, 2002-2004.


My wife and two daughters were stunned at the incident having lived on the post in family housing.


A military installation, whether it is Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine, or Coast Guard, is supposed to be a safe sanctuary for our Warriors and their families. It is intended to provide a home whereby our “Band of Brothers and Sisters” can find solace and bond beyond just the foxhole but as family units.


A military installation is supposed to be a place where our Warriors train for war, to serve and protect our Nation.


On Thursday, 5 November 2009, Ft Hood became a part of the battlefield in the war against Islamic totalitarianism and state sponsored terrorism.


There may be those who feel threatened by my words and would even recommend they not be uttered. To those individuals I say step aside because now is not the time for cowardice. Our Country has become so paralyzed by political correctness that we have allowed a vile and determined enemy to breach what should be the safest place in America , an Army post.


We have become so politically correct that our media is more concerned about the stress of the shooter, Major Nidal Malik Hasan. The misplaced benevolence intending to portray him as a victim is despicable. The fact that there are some who have now created an entire new classification called; “pre-virtual vicarious Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)” is unconscionable.


This is not a "man caused disaster." It is what it is, an Islamic jihadist attack.


We have seen this before in 2003 when a SGT Hasan of the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) threw hand grenades and opened fire into his Commanding Officer’s tent in Kuwait. We have seen the foiled attempt of Albanian Muslims who sought to attack Ft Dix, NJ. Recently we saw a young convert to Islam named Carlos Bledsoe travel to Yemen, receive terrorist training, and return to gun down two US Soldiers at a Little Rock, Arkansas Army recruiting station. We thwarted another Islamic terrorist plot in North Carolina which had US Marine Corps Base, Quantico as a target.


What have we done with all these prevalent trends? Nothing.


What we see are recalcitrant leaders who are refusing to confront the issue, Islamic terrorist infiltration into America, and possibly further into our Armed Services. Instead we have a multiculturalism and diversity syndrome on steroids.


Major Hasan should have never been transferred to Ft Hood, matter of fact he should have been chaptered from the Army. His previous statements, poor evaluation reports, and the fact that the FBI had him under investigation for jihadist website posting should have been proof positive.


However, what we have is a typical liberal approach to find a victim, not the 13 and 30 Soldiers and Civilian, but rather the poor shooter. A shooter who we are told was a great American, who loved the Army and serving his Nation and the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) stating that his actions had nothing to do with religious belief.


We know that Major Hasan deliberately planned this episode; he did give away his possessions. He stood atop a table in the confined space of the Soldier Readiness Center shouting “Allahu Akhbar”, same chant as the 9-11 terrorists and those we fight against overseas in the Iraq and Afghanistan theaters of operation.


No one in leadership seems willing to sound the alarm for the American people; they are therefore complicit in any future attacks. Our Congress should suspend the insidious action to vote on a preposterous and unconstitutional healthcare bill and resolve the issue of “protecting the American people”.


The recent incidents in Dearborn, Michigan; Boston, Massachusetts; Dallas,Texas; and Chicago, Illinois; should bear witness to the fact that we have an Islamic terrorism issue in America. And don’t have CAIR call me and try to issue a vanilla press statement; they are an illegitimate terrorist associated organization which should be disbanded.


We have Saudi Arabia funding close to 80% of the mosques in the United States, one right here in South Florida, Pompano Beach. Are we building churches and synagogues in Saudi Arabia? Are “Kaffirs” and “Infidels” allowed travel to Mecca?


So much for peaceful coexistence.


Saudi Arabia is sponsoring radical Imams who enter into our prisons and convert young men into a virulent Wahabbist ideology… one resulting in four individuals wanting to destroy synagogues in New York with plastic explosives. Thank God the explosives were dummy. They are sponsoring textbooks which present Islamic centric revisionist history in our schools.


We must recognize that there is an urgent need to separate the theo-political radical Islamic ideology out of our American society. We must begin to demand surveillance of suspected Imams and mosques that are spreading hate and preaching the overthrow of our Constitutional Republic... that speech is not protected under First Amendment, it is sedition and if done by an American, treason.


There should not be some 30 Islamic terrorist training camps in America that has nothing to do with First Amendment or Freedom of Religion. The Saudis are not our friends and any American political figure who believes such is delusional.


When tolerance becomes a one way street it certainly leads to cultural suicide. We are on that street. Liberals cannot be trusted to defend our Republic, because their sympathies obviously lie with their perceived victim, Major Nidal Malik Hasan.


I make no apologies for these words, and anyone angered by them, please, go to Ft Hood and look into the eyes of the real victims. The tragedy at Ft Hood Texas did not have to happen. Consider now the feelings of those there and on every military installation in the world. Consider the feelings of the Warriors deployed into combat zones who now are concerned that their loved ones at home are in a combat zone.


Ft Hood suffered an Islamic jihadist attack, stop the denial, and realize a simple point.

The reality of your enemy must become your own.

Steadfast and Loyal,


Lieutenant Colonel Allen B. West
US Army, Retired
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Without courage there cannot be truth; and without truth there can be no other virtue. Sir Walter Scott

GREAT POST Sol Duc!!!!!!!

Yeah, good ol' LTC West. Considering the source, you'll have to excuse some of us for taking that cut-n-paste with a grain of salt. Takes some real chutzpah to chastise the Big Army for a lack of leadership and poor judgement, when West himself was relieved of command and forced to retire for poor judgement and questionable leadership. Which is good because the Army has no place for xenophobia.

Hindsight's always 20/20. If we start chaptering every servicemember that receives a poor performance report or posts inflammatory remarks on bulletin boards, we'll have a pretty hollow DoD. We have to trust the local leadership's judgement. Some slip through the cracks, it's inevitable. For instance, there was a young E-4 with a questionable past that was allowed to deploy to Iraq. He ended up raping a 14 year old girl, then killing her and her entire family. There have been numerous other incidents of fratricide that didn't involve muslim soldiers. Where was the outrage then?

West blames the libs for making Hasan the victim, yet he does the same thing. He blames the Army for sending him to Ft. Hood.

Hasan is the murderous bastard that is guilty of a crime, not the Army.

West watched "Apocalypse Now" one too many times.

According to West the attack was averted and no other attacks occurred because of his Scott Glen-like theatrics. Not surprising, the Army saw it differently.

If West is the kind of guy you'd follow, Hank, I don't want you anywhere near my team. The goal is to come back alive.

Really? West lost no men while in command? Makin' stuff up again, Hank. Haven't you already been talked to about that?

Again, hindsight is 20/20. Now we know Hasan probably should have been chaptered out. But if he hadn't committed his murderous crime, he'd just be another retired Army officer with poor performance reports and posts on a blog. But the conservatives want to use hindsight to make Hasan the victim, the Army the scapegoat, and encourage xenophobia. Why do you guys hate our army so much?

But for the sake of argument, let's say the Army had chaptered him out. Then what? Do you really suppose he would have changed his murderous mind? Or does the possibility exist that he could have gone on to recruit others for a bigger crime? No one knows. Just like no one knew he was going to kill 13 people until he pulled the trigger.

Not only do we need to get Islamicism out of politics, we need to get Christian fundamentalism just as far away from it as possible, too.

Fish on...

Todd

Um,separation of church and state? I agree.

GH, we know you are great at attacking the person who delivered the message, but can you attack the message that he is passing along in his letter. You the kind of guy that has more respect for muslim terrorists than an Army Colonel.

Aaron, you are a study of stupidity. I've challenged your message numerous times on snivelheader, but you can't defend your position to save your life. You are the pot and the kettle. Hypocrisy defined. Rory Bellows incarnate. Crawl back to whence you came and leave the serious discussions to the adults.

Hank, you assert that West's cowboy actions saved lives. I'm challenging that assertion. You don't know with certainty that his actions didn't actually put his men in more danger eventually. You think he acted in a vaccuum? I can say with certainty that it didn't take long for his actions to be relayed to the enemy, which may have actually emboldened them.

Why is it the righties only take issue with fratricide by muslims? And why do they keep blaming the Army, accusing them of political correctness gone wrong? It's got nothing to do with PC. It's purely a local command issue. Unless, of course, someone can offer some proof that a request to have him removed from the Army was thwarted because of his religion. Show me a regulation that states he can't be chaptered because he's muslim. You can't, there isn't one. It's not about the DoD being too PC. It's about the righties politicizing another atrocity to keep their base scared, and attempt to score politcal points. Period.

The fact is, his religion and his not being forced to resign are mutually exclusive, and the DoD is not being infiltrated by Islamic jihadists.

In your small mind I don't defend my message, but to everyone else you are the one who looks like an idiot. I don't notice you over at "snivelheader", any more, it that because you don't have a bunch of left wing wackos there to defend your pussy ass. All you can do is call me names, but that is what wimpy, limp wristed liberals do. Your kind of people, you know, the ones who can't take care of themselves so the need the gov to do it for them, are destroying the country. The man that wrote the letter, stated that the current leadership is more worried about political correctness than protecting our country, and he is 100% correct. I want your kind to leave me the hell alone.

PS: I guarantee that if any of you limp wristed liberals saw me walking down the street, you would not talk like you do on the internet.

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Good, because you still haven't posted anything to prove West's point. All you've given us is conjecture and who-knows who's opinion.

Show us where chapter paperwork was submitted and then denied because he was muslim. Show us a regulation, or even a local command policy that states muslims would not be relieved of duty or forced to resign their commission. Show us where the Army determined a high probability that Husan was going to commit a crime as a jihad, yet policy or regulation prevented the Army from taking action because he was muslim.

Absent that, you're left with conjecture and speculation. Hardly sufficient for West's argument that the Army promoted Husan and PCS'd him to Hood simply out of political correctness, regardless of how it fires up the base.

Aaron, I'll take your bet. If I ever have the misfortune of being in the same vicinity to which you are sucking up my air, I will most indubitably and incontrovertibly apprise you of your hypocrisy and ill-formed opinions. I still venture over to snivelheader now and then, but not for the political discussion--for the same reason I don't peruse freerepublic. When reading posts by you and your brethren, I can feel the IQ points dropping away like sands in an hourglass. You alone are a virtual IQ vortex into a black hole.

Let me tell you something. You show in this very statement what a fukkin truck you really are. Now run along,Aunt Tilly.