I put a new avatar up...

Just sayin'.

Fish on...

Todd

P.S. Bring on the Death Panels!

That's weird......how did a tread titled:
The cop killed on Halloween... end up here.....
Bacon Futures...................get in on the ground floor.

Pork Bellies are gonna go wild !!!!!!!

The Dark Side takes many strange and sinister turns...

Fish on...

Todd

Oh you [censored] ers suck! I was hopin Tod pulled sum supper hero mod death move on the low life when he ran across his yard.

Yeah it is.

Fish on...

Todd

So the suspect is a Husky!

Probably the most unpopular Husky since Ted Bundy.

Not to side track a fascinating and informative political debate, but...

"the man displayed a handgun and tried to flee on foot, prompting three detectives to shoot at him."

Good shoot or bad? Factors?

I heard that he was being pursued, and didn't draw the piece until he was 'cornered'...which sounds like a good shoot to me, if that's the way it went down.

Fish on...

Todd

Anybody got a good link for an article on the arrest/shooting event?

What if he was fleeing and it was unknown whether or not he was armed? Good or bad?

How about fleeing and known to be armed? Good/bad?

http://news.aol.com/article/christopher-monfort-accused-of-killing/758027

"Authorities say the detectives opened fire after Monfort pulled a handgun."

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Todd

If I were an authority, I'd also say that detectives fired after the suspect pulled a gun . . .

Since the only witnesses were probably the 3 detectives, by definition it must have been a good shoot.

In any event, I can't see how the public isn't better off with this guy off our streets. The only reason for keeping him alive is if he could provide useful information. But if he was truly a solo domestic terrorist whacko, the public interest would be served by pulling the plug.

Sg

The whackjob was shot multiple times, sounds like a good shoot to me. .. would have been a better shoot if he had been DOA ..

I heard on the news this morning that his defense attorneys are going to get to talk to him for the first time today and they are calming that his rights have been violated. That he spoke to detectives before he was read his rights. Probably get off on a technicality.

Speaking to a cop before being read his rights doesn't violate his civil rights in the least...though some of what he may have said could be excluded as evidence from a trial. That being said, it'll be his burden to prove that it should be excluded...and it won't be much, if any, that gets bumped.

This guy ain't likely to get off on nothin'...if he even survives the arrest.

Fish on...

Todd

P.S. Claiming a violation of civil rights is ALWAYS part of the defense in a criminal trial...always...especially when they're guiltier'n'ell, 'cuz that's all they've got. It would be malpractice for the attorneys not to make the claim.

The suspect pretty much forfeited all his rights, including his right to life, when he pulled a gun on three detectives. That sort of action is just asking to go down in a firefight.

Sg

should have held up a Rvrfshr sign - free advertising opportunity lost

i'm glad they got the right guy, sounds like he was on his way to doing more serious damage.

I'll have to get a big sign to put on the roof for next time...

Fish on...

Todd

Correct. Miranda warnings, or "rights" only apply when someone has been placed under arrest. Prior to that, conversations with LE are voluntary. Whatever you say is what you said.

How the "use of force" issue pans out in this case will depend on the officers ability to articulate the facts. It sounds like their collective story is that he pulled a gun. Use of force, deadly at that, is justified in such an instance. Not required of course, but it has been deemed "reasonable" through past case law (graham v connor, tennessee v connor, etc.)

I am glad he didn't die. I am glad the officers didn't pump him full of lead and make sure he didn't live to take another breath. Is that what he deserved. Probably. I am glad that the responding officers showed the restraint and used force to eliminate a threat rather than fulfill some personal and moral agenda. It seems as though they put their professional duty ahead of other factors and acted in a manner appropriate for a person who has sworn an oath to protect and serve the people of this country.

As with many professions, I get the idea that a few paint a large part of the picture for the majority in the LE field, in the eyes of the public at least. My hats off to those that choose this as a career and give of themselves to help us all live a little safer life.