#571486 - 01/12/10 11:14 AM
Checking my sanity...
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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Not my usual thing to copy stuff over from another board for discussion, but this one's got me mystified... There's a conversation on another board right now about this fish...about half the people think it's a steelhead, and the other half think it's some sort of gigantic mutant coho...and I'm the only one who thinks it's a Chinook...and not only that, I think it's so undeniably a Chinook that I'm sitting here shaking my head wondering how anyone who's ever seen a Chinook, coho, or steelhead could think otherwise. What say you? Fish on... Todd P.S. Here's the discussion: http://www.ifish.net/board/showthread.php?t=286198
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#571487 - 01/12/10 11:20 AM
Re: Checking my sanity...
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Returning Adult
Registered: 01/21/00
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Not a very good pic but I second the Chinook theory.
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#571489 - 01/12/10 11:27 AM
Re: Checking my sanity...
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Dick Nipples
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Another thing...at least this is what I can decipher from the regs...the Trask is not open for any salmon right now...just clipped steelhead. That might be affecting some folks' opinions on what it is...
Fish on...
Todd
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#571490 - 01/12/10 11:27 AM
Re: Checking my sanity...
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WINNER
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Can you put a "scratch n sniff" panel on the photo? There's no mistaking the scent. I don't know, Todd. She looks pretty "steely" to me. The angle the fish is being held at makes it pretty tough to see the back and tail, though. Have you ever been wrong? No? Ok....it's a King, then.....or is it Queen?
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#571491 - 01/12/10 11:30 AM
Re: Checking my sanity...
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Posted this on the other board as well.
Anal fin is definitely NOT chinook.
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#571492 - 01/12/10 11:31 AM
Re: Checking my sanity...
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River Nutrients
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The tail doesn't look square enough to me to be a steelhead.....tough call on chinook versus coho without better look at the tail......gumline is sure white
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#571493 - 01/12/10 11:31 AM
Re: Checking my sanity...
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WINNER
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Aha! Just zoomed in.....she IS a Queen! I should have picked up on the scale loss as well. Goodun!
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#571496 - 01/12/10 11:35 AM
Re: Checking my sanity...
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Dick Nipples
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It's definitely not a steelhead...I'm open to discussion on what type of salmon it is (I still say Chinook), but look at that thing's head...
Fish on...
Todd
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#571498 - 01/12/10 11:38 AM
Re: Checking my sanity...
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Dick Nipples
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The "mean look" in the eye structure, the forked tail with big spots on the lower lobe...the face just looks so "Chinooky" to me...
Fish on...
Todd
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#571501 - 01/12/10 11:41 AM
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Dick Nipples
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The body shape does look like a coho...not as deep as a winter Chinook, and kinda bullet shaped for an early springer...I just can't get past the shape of its head and tail, even if the in between parts are a little ambiguous to me.
Fish on...
Todd
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#571504 - 01/12/10 11:46 AM
Re: Checking my sanity...
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WINNER
Registered: 01/11/03
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Yup, she's a coho all right. Yup.
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#571506 - 01/12/10 11:49 AM
Re: Checking my sanity...
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Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah
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I vote coho.
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#571507 - 01/12/10 11:50 AM
Re: Checking my sanity...
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BUCK NASTY!!
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Loc: Vancouver, WA
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Wow, you guys are all losing it.... It's 100% steelhead to me... Although the tail looks forked it's the way the kid is holding the fish squeezing the wrist of the tail causing it to appear forked... The head in the second picture screams hen steelhead as well as the anal fin screams steelhead as well...... The chromeness/snow belly screams steelhead as well. Don't forget the gumlines screaming steelhead too.... Some hatchery steelhead can have some funny noses... Although not common to see the scale loss, I've seen it on smoking chrome tidewater steelhead... Are those the only two pictures to choose from? Being a clipped fish, it can't be a Chinook this time of year assuming it was caught recently.... The chances of a clipped king being in the Trask this time of year is about .0000001%.... Keith
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#571518 - 01/12/10 12:08 PM
Re: Checking my sanity...
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WINNER
Registered: 01/11/03
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BONG...BONG..BONG...BONG....BONG!!
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#571521 - 01/12/10 12:09 PM
Re: Checking my sanity...
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Juvenile at Sea
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I would say steelhead also. In the first pic you can see the tail is not forked.Nice big hen. Scale loss could be from netting it and flopping around the boat....Rod
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