tryin to get the thread closed ?

"Boater, Billjr64, and Keta, You don't like the idea of seines,so that leaves you with status quo gill nets or helping freespool out with his proposal or change legislation regarding commercial status. What is your pick? Or other plan you can propose to the legislature this year?"

When there are policies like(1) a set number of ESA listed fish that are allowed to be killed one way or another, (2) doing next to nothing about the biggest problem, the dams, and (3) banning commercial fishing seems to be off the table, it's hard for me to get too exited about selective commercial harvest methods. The idea that seines or whatever method they use will get more fish to the sports fishing sector is delusional.

you have a history of doing that.

So let's say for argument that we got our wish and all commercial harvest was banned on the LCR. Sounds great right?

The sport fishermen are terrible at catching a big percentage of hatchery fish. If too many hatchery fish escape and attempt to spawn with the ESA wild fish then we have to close down hatcheries.

Without commercials on the main Columbia, how do you propose we do this?

[quote=dobberbown]So let's say for argument that we got our wish and all commercial harvest was banned on the LCR. Sounds great right?

The sport fishermen are terrible at catching a big percentage of hatchery fish. If too many hatchery fish escape and attempt to spawn with the ESA wild fish then we have to close down hatcheries.

Without commercials on the main Columbia, how do you propose we do this? [/quote

Hatcheries already have weirs that block ALL fish from going past them. Only wild fish are allowed past that point usually. Some may spawn downstream of that point but not many, especially in the case of spring chinook and native steelhead. Bill

use the esa take that they had and make bigger bag limits and longer sport seasons.

Freespool's a gill netter, now that would explain most of every conservation that I have ever had with him.

I expect now he will come back as a newby.


Fishy

is this a new trend ?, if your not onboard with the cca it means your a gillnetter ?

Wow the bees are buzzing tonight. It seems like a rerun of the best of boater with all the old quotes and topics. Are they related to you?

The ballot measure CCA has proposed clearly illustrates what a monumentally bad idea management by popular consensus really is.

Hey, I`m not a gillnetter, nor am I "onboard" with C.C.A.,BUT I promise to stop every hatchery fish that I can from making it upriver past my bait. Bill

WDFW officials envision a future in which the river's commercial fishers could catch considerably more fish than they do now while helping boost wild fish productivity.

http://www.cbbulletin.com/369796.aspx

hopefully this spreads to willipa bay, grays harbor and puget sound

Boater,
I appreciate what you bring to the table for well rounded discussion. I'm looking out 6-7 years VS most people looking at present when it comes to this gillnet/seine topic. That is the time frame for Washington side of equation where anything can happen between now and then to enhance sportfishing. I think this topic has been beaten to death X3 so I'm out of here for now.
LL

Ya gotta a mean streak in ya. Ya get that from raisin them pomeranians?

The same could be said about your stance on hatcheries, if your not on board with WSC then your anti wild fish.

If you really want to push their agenda then do it yourself, why should CCA walk in lock step with your agenda?

Fishy

I was involved in a ballot initiative in 2003, at that time it cost about $5 million to successfully pass the measure.
I would think that the price has risen since then, better plan on having a banquet every day for the next year to pay for it.

Somehow with the way its written I get the feeling Oregon Supreme Court is going to throw it back in there faces.

Measures with no clear plan for funding should be rejected.

I think it will, or they will be forced to rewrite it to remove the ban on seines, fishwheels, and traps, or at least be bared from promoting these alternative methods in there ad campaigns which there already doing. Might be wrong, going to be fun to watch!

whats the wsc have to do with this ?, what part of "i want more fish for sportsman and not for the commercials" dont you understand ?