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#571265 - 01/11/10 04:50 PM Re: Gill-net salmon fishing ban on ballot? [Re: Todd]
boater Offline
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Registered: 07/01/09
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Originally Posted By: Todd


Every year these BB's fill up with springer fishermen whining about how bad the fishing sucks when the nets were in the night before...just wait to hear the whining when the nets were in and caught four (or more) times as many hatchery fish before you got to go fishing.



i cannot understand why sportfisherman dont understand this

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#571270 - 01/11/10 04:56 PM Re: Gill-net salmon fishing ban on ballot? [Re: Illahee]
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Registered: 04/15/09
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Originally Posted By: freespool
first volley is a broadside by the Oregonian


What else would you expect from i doh buddy Monroe?

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#571271 - 01/11/10 05:06 PM Re: Gill-net salmon fishing ban on ballot? [Re: eyeFISH]
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Originally Posted By: eyeFISH


Some fisheries will win, some will lose.



how many fall hatchery coho on the columbia do you think the new selective commercial fisherman will be allowed to keep ?

i bet you dont have a clue.

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#571272 - 01/11/10 05:06 PM Re: Gill-net salmon fishing ban on ballot? [Re: NanookWillie]
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Originally Posted By: NanookWillie
Originally Posted By: freespool
first volley is a broadside by the Oregonian


What else would you expect from i doh buddy Monroe?



Good theory Chief, but Bill didn't write that editorial.

"Conservation group wants gill-net salmon fishing ban on ballot
By Matthew Preusch, The Oregonian
December 28, 2009, 7:02AM"

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#571274 - 01/11/10 05:19 PM Re: Gill-net salmon fishing ban on ballot? [Re: Illahee]
NanookWillie Offline
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Registered: 04/15/09
Posts: 101
Loc: God's Country Oregon
Yea I just saw the denial. If you say so. wink

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#571277 - 01/11/10 05:32 PM Re: Gill-net salmon fishing ban on ballot? [Re: boater]
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Registered: 12/30/07
Posts: 3116
Originally Posted By: boater
Originally Posted By: eyeFISH


Some fisheries will win, some will lose.



how many fall hatchery coho on the columbia do you think the new selective commercial fisherman will be allowed to keep ?

i bet you dont have a clue.



Oh, gee, does that mean you win?

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#571278 - 01/11/10 05:35 PM Re: Gill-net salmon fishing ban on ballot? [Re: NanookWillie]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Marsha, you can continue to characterize it however you like...if it was going to do what the CCA says it will do, then I'd support it...if the Pope was pushing it, I'd disagree with him, too...and if George Dubya Bush was supporting something that I thought made sense, I'd support that, too.

It's not about the organization, it's about the idea. Sorry it's your organization that's fumbling around in the dark on this, but that's the message, not the messenger...

Francis, CCA is selling this as good for springer fishing...and springer fishing will be the biggest loser in this plan, if it works as intended. The springer fishermen who are looking for the CCA to back them up are going to be very disappointed when they get shafted...and that sure won't be good for recruitment.

That's my problem...not that it's a CCA proposal, but that they either can't understand the way seasons are set on the LCR, or if they do they aren't being truthful about the effects of the proposal.

Either way, that's a problem.

Fish on...

Todd
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#571279 - 01/11/10 05:35 PM Re: Gill-net salmon fishing ban on ballot? [Re: Todd]
Somethingsmellsf Offline
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Registered: 12/15/02
Posts: 4000
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Originally Posted By: Todd
Originally Posted By: Somethingsmellsf
Originally Posted By: Todd

fishy, 2% dead is 2% dead, whether you kill them with gillnets, purse seines, or lollipops...even if lollipops taste better.

How's that status quo getting even worse working for ya?

Fish on...

Todd


I've seen you whine and cry about one "wild" fish on the OP and you don't see the impact of using selective gear on the big C will have, your about as stupid as a guy with a fishing gear company pissing people off that go fishing.

Originally Posted By: Todd


Well Toddy that is your name,

Fishy


I'm getting close to calling it quits on these boards, I get so sick of the arm-chair fisherman trying to dictate what's right and wrong and what we should do to save the fish.... Then you have the old folks trying to protect the future because they feel so guilty for F'ning it up for their kids, face it we've all screwed it for ourselves over the 100+ years.

Face it, you aren't going to save the friggin wild fish unless you quit fishing as a whole.... Keep hitting fast forward CCA, the sky is falling and the end is coming......

You bet your ass I'm as negative as can be.... It makes me sick "sitting back" and watching it go down.......

Keith thumbs


See ya, keep trying to use the same methods has gotten us here seems to be your formula.

Fishy


Uh...that's not me in the quote you attributed to me.

Fish on...

Todd
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#571281 - 01/11/10 05:36 PM Re: Gill-net salmon fishing ban on ballot? [Re: Somethingsmellsf]
Somethingsmellsf Offline
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This is your name on that top post isn't it?

Fishy
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The idea of a middle class life is slowly drifting away as each and every day we realize that our nation is becoming more of a corporatacracy.

I think name-calling is the right way to handle this one/Dan S

We're here from the WDFW and we're here to help--Uhh Ohh!




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#571282 - 01/11/10 05:36 PM Re: Gill-net salmon fishing ban on ballot? [Re: Fast and Furious]
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Originally Posted By: Lead Bouncer
Originally Posted By: boater
Originally Posted By: eyeFISH


Some fisheries will win, some will lose.



how many fall hatchery coho on the columbia do you think the new selective commercial fisherman will be allowed to keep ?

i bet you dont have a clue.



Oh, gee, does that mean you win?



Hey, Im on Cash Cab with Boater. I need a shout out.

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#571283 - 01/11/10 05:39 PM Re: Gill-net salmon fishing ban on ballot? [Re: Fast and Furious]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Yes, it is...I wrote the first quote, the second one was written by Keith...stlhdr1...not me...even though the quote says I wrote it.

Fish on...

Todd
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#571286 - 01/11/10 05:45 PM Re: Gill-net salmon fishing ban on ballot? [Re: Fast and Furious]
boater Offline
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Registered: 07/01/09
Posts: 1597
Loc: common sense ave.
Originally Posted By: Lead Bouncer
Originally Posted By: boater
Originally Posted By: eyeFISH


Some fisheries will win, some will lose.



how many fall hatchery coho on the columbia do you think the new selective commercial fisherman will be allowed to keep ?

i bet you dont have a clue.



Oh, gee, does that mean you win?


do you ever say anything intelligent ?

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#571291 - 01/11/10 05:54 PM Re: Gill-net salmon fishing ban on ballot? [Re: boater]
Somethingsmellsf Offline
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Registered: 12/15/02
Posts: 4000
Loc: Ahhhhh, damn dog!
Todd never said that both quotes were from you, just the top one.

Fishy
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The idea of a middle class life is slowly drifting away as each and every day we realize that our nation is becoming more of a corporatacracy.

I think name-calling is the right way to handle this one/Dan S

We're here from the WDFW and we're here to help--Uhh Ohh!




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#571292 - 01/11/10 05:56 PM Re: Gill-net salmon fishing ban on ballot? [Re: boater]
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Posts: 6209
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Originally Posted By: boater


do you ever say anything intelligent ?


I'm at a loss for words.
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#571293 - 01/11/10 05:56 PM Re: Gill-net salmon fishing ban on ballot? [Re: Somethingsmellsf]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
In that case, then yes, it was me...and if you compare commercial selective fishing on the LCR with sportfishing on the OP, then it just goes to show how little the proponents of this plan understand how seasons are set, how allocations are provided and meted out, and what the difference is between a stock that is commercially fished by non-tribals, and one that is not.

Fish on...

Todd
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#571294 - 01/11/10 05:57 PM Re: Gill-net salmon fishing ban on ballot? [Re: Todd]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
P.S. Do note, please, that Keith's quote in your post says "posted by Todd" on it, too...not just the one I wrote.
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#571298 - 01/11/10 06:12 PM Re: Gill-net salmon fishing ban on ballot? [Re: Todd]
Somethingsmellsf Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 12/15/02
Posts: 4000
Loc: Ahhhhh, damn dog!
Management, or should I say micro management has helped create this whole mess and you cradling some "wild" fish on one river does not mean that they should continue to be slaughtered on another, regardless of who,why or how.


Fishy
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NRA Life member

The idea of a middle class life is slowly drifting away as each and every day we realize that our nation is becoming more of a corporatacracy.

I think name-calling is the right way to handle this one/Dan S

We're here from the WDFW and we're here to help--Uhh Ohh!




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#571313 - 01/11/10 06:47 PM Re: Gill-net salmon fishing ban on ballot? [Re: Somethingsmellsf]
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+1

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#571314 - 01/11/10 06:50 PM Re: Gill-net salmon fishing ban on ballot? [Re: fish4brains]
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Registered: 07/01/09
Posts: 1597
Loc: common sense ave.
Originally Posted By: fish4brains
Originally Posted By: boater


do you ever say anything intelligent ?


I'm at a loss for words.


i thought the question i asked the eyedoc was a good question but since you seem to know alot, why dont you answer it ?

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#571315 - 01/11/10 06:52 PM Re: Gill-net salmon fishing ban on ballot? [Re: boater]
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