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#579212 - 02/06/10 12:54 AM Is Sarah Retarded?
Dave Vedder Offline
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First she says we should stop getting so concerned about politically correct speech, and then she attacks Rahm Emanuel for using the word “retard” in a private conversation. Now her buddy Rush says there's no problem calling a retard a retard. Soooo, if she thinks Emanuel should be fired for using the word in private, shouldn't she be calling for Rush and Glen Beck to be fired for using the word on air? Or was she right in the frist place when she said we are too worried about political correctness?

I think this may be the new logo for the teabaggers, that Sarah wants to lead.



Edited by Dave Vedder (02/06/10 12:57 AM)
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#579222 - 02/06/10 02:20 AM Re: Is Sarah Retarded? [Re: Dave Vedder]
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Leads right back to the question "WHat is the difference between Sarah Palins' mouth and her vagina?". . . . . . .. . . . .
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#579388 - 02/06/10 07:46 PM Re: Is Sarah Retarded? [Re: FishRanger]
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Originally Posted By: FishRanger
Leads right back to the question "WHat is the difference between Sarah Palins' mouth and her vagina?". . . . . . .. . . . .


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#579438 - 02/06/10 09:50 PM Re: Is Sarah Retarded? [Re: FishRanger]
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I dunno, but I'd bet she could bitch-slap Bill Crystal and make him cry for his mommy. That quaking sniveler irritates me.
I don't know why I thought of that, prolly my Palin dominatrix fantasy kickin' in grin
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#579454 - 02/06/10 10:53 PM Re: Is Sarah Retarded? [Re: Direct-Drive]
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Only some of the things that come out of her vagina are retarded. . . . . .
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#579462 - 02/06/10 11:02 PM Re: Is Sarah Retarded? [Re: Direct-Drive]
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Originally Posted By: Direct-Drive
my Palin dominatrix fantasy kickin' in grin


Me too. The bad boy student and the mute librarian.
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#579502 - 02/07/10 02:35 AM Re: Is Sarah Retarded? [Re: ]
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Yeah, that voice makes the "tower of power" just plain crash to the ground.
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#579521 - 02/07/10 10:56 AM Re: Is Sarah Retarded? [Re: Dogfish]
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Only some of the things that come out of her vagina are retarded. . . . . .


Having spent many years working with and helping handicapped children and adults, that remark is tragically too typical here. Kind of surprises me that Vedder stooped down in the mud to start it off. I expect nothing less from others here but not Dave.

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#579527 - 02/07/10 11:20 AM Re: Is Sarah Retarded? [Re: grizz1]
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Grizz:

My point was, and is, that Sarah is a huge hypocrite. Had nothing to do with kids/adults that are retarded. Yeah, I know we can't use that word. But I don't know why the hell not.
My wife’s brother has been in state care since a few weeks after birth. He was born retarded. He will never be able to live independently and that’s a tragedy. More the tragedy that with what we know now there were far better ways to care for him.
We do visit him, no doubt not as often as we should. We do provide for him to have the CD players and other luxuries the state can’t afford, because this state so dramatically underfunds the care for our most vulnerable. And perhaps because of my wife’s brother we do give generously to organizations that help the retarded. But changing the word we label them with will not help him. Retarded is what the doctors, and everyone else called him. Now somehow it’s an insult. I don’t think any label is an insult unless the one uttering the word thinks it is.
We can change the label and no doubt whatever new label we find will one day become a pejorative. At one time “colored" was considered a polite term. In Cuba a black person is often affectionately called Negrito, a term that has no negative connotations, and so it goes . . .
I do regret that this thread has denigrated into a crude slogans, but that seems to be a common thing here on the dark side.
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#579533 - 02/07/10 11:43 AM Re: Is Sarah Retarded? [Re: Dave Vedder]
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No offense intended, the truth is the truth however. I am not going to be forced into the latest PC cube, so you can just tell me to STFU and I will be on my way with no feathers ruffled.
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#579539 - 02/07/10 12:20 PM Re: Is Sarah Retarded? [Re: FishRanger]
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No offense intended,
Dave's explanation makes sense but this one is truly lame. And,as Dave pointed out, to be expected here. Using the term "retarded" is pretty normal but using it loosely in a denegrating fashion is not.


Edited by grizz1 (02/07/10 12:21 PM)

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#579540 - 02/07/10 12:21 PM Re: Is Sarah Retarded? [Re: FishRanger]
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My wife works with handicapped people and that entire workforce and culture has a very bad time with the word retarded. It took me a long while to convince her and some of her co-workers that the word just means slowed and nothing else. If you call someone a retard, then you being duragatory. Saying something is retarded is technically saying it is slowed. Most folks dont use or understand the word in its true context and percieve its something against handicap people. So, I'm guessing Sarah is caught up in this culture and by her stature and circumstances was probably expected to say something.

I was at a presentation once about being sensitive to minorities and people with disabilities. The presenter told us something that blew my mind. He told us that the word handicaped was wideley accepted as OK but in truth its highly duragatory. He told us that the term developed in the early 1900's. He said that disabled folks did not have the services available to them like they have now days and to get money they would peddle for money on the sidewalk. They collected the money in hats and somehow the phrase "handy cap" was used to describe them. Its now in the form of handicap. Not sure if the guy was FOS but I'm pretty sure you wouldn't lie in front of a crowd like that.
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#579544 - 02/07/10 12:47 PM Re: Is Sarah Retarded? [Re: grizz1]
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So is saying that only some of the things that come out of her vagina are "special needs" better, or should I use "mentally challenged", or would it be more acceptable to just say "fukked up". .. .. . Where is the line ? ?? Or is it just the joke (yeah it is a bad one and by some in poor taste and I still say true) in general that you have an issue with?
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#579545 - 02/07/10 12:50 PM Re: Is Sarah Retarded? [Re: FishRanger]
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The guy was FOS according to snopes.com

http://www.snopes.com/language/offense/handicap.asp
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#579555 - 02/07/10 01:59 PM Re: Is Sarah Retarded? [Re: j 7]
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Gotta love Snopes. It sure debunks a ton of crap.
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#579564 - 02/07/10 03:35 PM Re: Is Sarah Retarded? [Re: Dave Vedder]
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Sarah Palin's child has Down Syndrome...Used to call them Mongoloids..I guess you could use that term if you want more ammo to slam Palin with because she chose to have a child she knew would be born with that disorder. Pretty pathetic

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#579566 - 02/07/10 03:38 PM Re: Is Sarah Retarded? [Re: grizz1]
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I don't think the point of this thread is to debate whether or not using the word "retarded" or "mongoloid" is ok or not...I think the point is that it's typically hypocritical to complain about everyone making her be "politically correct" when she doesn't feel she should have to be, and then her complaining when others aren't politically correct enough in her estimation.

I doubt she even understands the word "irony" enough to have an actual conversation about the topic.

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#579568 - 02/07/10 04:01 PM Re: Is Sarah Retarded? [Re: grizz1]
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Originally Posted By: grizz1
I expect nothing less from others here

Originally Posted By: grizz1
to be expected here.

The language has always been in a state of flux.....I can actually remember when gay meant happy.
I am certain that no one here knowingly wanted to insult a mentally challenged child or his/her family.

BTW, I find these two remarks to be denigrating and unnecessary to make your point.


Edited by Direct-Drive (02/07/10 04:04 PM)
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#579592 - 02/07/10 05:43 PM Re: Is Sarah Retarded? [Re: grizz1]
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Originally Posted By: grizz1
Sarah Palin's child has Down Syndrome...Used to call them Mongoloids..I guess you could use that term if you want more ammo to slam Palin with because she chose to have a child she knew would be born with that disorder. Pretty pathetic


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#579621 - 02/07/10 11:32 PM Re: Is Sarah Retarded? [Re: fish4brains]
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