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#587288 - 03/09/10 01:12 PM Mandate
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When Obama won the 2008 election by 7% it was considered by many on the left as a mandate by the people. Obamacare has almost the exact % against the current proposal, wouldn't that be a mandate by the American people?
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#587309 - 03/09/10 01:55 PM Re: Mandate [Re: Jerry Garcia]
Captain Offline
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Registered: 10/16/99
Posts: 318
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Knock it off Jerry, you are making sense.

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#587335 - 03/09/10 03:05 PM Re: Mandate [Re: Captain]
goharley Offline
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Registered: 03/27/02
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When Clinton was in office he was constantly accused by the righties of "leading by the polls." When bush was in office, the right bragged that he lead by his gut, didn't follow the polls. Now with President Obama in office, the right is demanding he base his policies and agenda according to how they read the polls.

Wish they'd make up their minds.
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#587343 - 03/09/10 03:25 PM Re: Mandate [Re: goharley]
Salmo g. Offline
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Anyone who considers a 7% margin a mandate should take remedial arithmetic, or statistics, at least. This is a non-partisan, math and science based opinion.

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#587345 - 03/09/10 03:30 PM Re: Mandate [Re: Salmo g.]
Marz Offline
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Loc: Edmonds, WA
any kool aid drinking zealot is going to make outrageous claims... just like there is the dipshit that says "we beat your ass" after a 1 point victory in overtime.

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#587353 - 03/09/10 04:09 PM Re: Mandate [Re: Marz]
Irie Offline
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That's 69,456,897 Americans that not only disagree with you, but also think you're a dolt.

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#587376 - 03/09/10 05:36 PM Re: Mandate [Re: Irie]
Dogfish Offline
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Lots of mandates on Capitol Hill.
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#587400 - 03/09/10 06:42 PM Re: Mandate [Re: Irie]
Marz Offline
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Originally Posted By: Irie
That's 69,456,897 Americans that not only disagree with you, but also think you're a dolt.


Unfortunately it wasn't the 69,456,897 that called it a mandate, it was the party fish.

Nice trying for the personal attack though, thats awesome!

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#587411 - 03/09/10 07:28 PM Re: Mandate [Re: Marz]
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Originally Posted By: Marz
just like there is the dipshit that says "we beat your ass" after a 1 point victory in overtime.


The winner has the right to do that. Even if everyone else in the gym has a little different perspective. Hence the Mandate.
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#587413 - 03/09/10 07:30 PM Re: Mandate [Re: Rocket Red]
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I actually really like this. The next time I beat some one at something I am going to say, "I beat your ass so bad, it was a mandate!"
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#587420 - 03/09/10 07:47 PM Re: Mandate [Re: Rocket Red]
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21 - 6 is a "we beat your ass"

1 - 0 in overtime is a "We won"

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#587426 - 03/09/10 08:14 PM Re: Mandate [Re: Rocket Red]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Originally Posted By: Rocket Red
I actually really like this. The next time I beat some one at something I am going to say, "I beat your ass so bad, it was a mandate!"


This past week I outfished my fishing buddies by a mile...I caught one, they caught none.

Now that's a mutherfuckin mandate.

smile

Fish on...

Todd
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#587436 - 03/09/10 08:41 PM Re: Mandate [Re: Jerry Garcia]
Todd Offline
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Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
When Obama won the 2008 election by 7% it was considered by many on the left as a mandate by the people. Obamacare has almost the exact % against the current proposal, wouldn't that be a mandate by the American people?


Just an aside to the very first post in this thread...

A little civics primer for those of you who seem to have either slept through Civics in high school, or didn't make it that far in school...we live in a representative republic, and our President is elected by the electoral college, not by popular vote. I'm sure some of you have conveniently forgotten this, perhaps on purpose, especially when Gore beat Bush on the popular vote and still didn't become President.

Obama/Biden actually won 68% of the electoral college (365 votes) compared to 32% of the electoral college for McCain/Palin (173 votes)...meaning that Obama didn't win by 7%, he actually won byt 36%, more than doubling McCain's vote.

Class dismissed.

Fish on...

Todd
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#587587 - 03/10/10 01:56 PM Re: Mandate [Re: ]
DougT Offline
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Registered: 05/28/09
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Rahm and Massa going on a ManDate?

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#587626 - 03/10/10 03:35 PM Re: Mandate [Re: Todd]
Jerry Garcia Offline



Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 9013
Loc: everett
Originally Posted By: Todd
Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
When Obama won the 2008 election by 7% it was considered by many on the left as a mandate by the people. Obamacare has almost the exact % against the current proposal, wouldn't that be a mandate by the American people?


Just an aside to the very first post in this thread...

A little civics primer for those of you who seem to have either slept through Civics in high school, or didn't make it that far in school...we live in a representative republic, and our President is elected by the electoral college, not by popular vote. I'm sure some of you have conveniently forgotten this, perhaps on purpose, especially when Gore beat Bush on the popular vote and still didn't become President.

Obama/Biden actually won 68% of the electoral college (365 votes) compared to 32% of the electoral college for McCain/Palin (173 votes)...meaning that Obama didn't win by 7%, he actually won byt 36%, more than doubling McCain's vote.

Class dismissed.

Fish on...

Todd



Sometimes you can be such an ass Todd. By your line of thinking Obama won Washington by 100%. I was thinking back to election night with the talking heads on TV saying the election was a mandate. Some of us older folk actually went to school when you were expected to learn and were certainly taught the right stuff in government class. I believe that the popular vote is more important as to the direction of the people than the electoral college.
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#587631 - 03/10/10 03:45 PM Re: Mandate [Re: Jerry Garcia]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
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We don't use the popular vote to elect the President, but thanks for the civics lesson anyway.

And yes, Obama won Washington state by a margin of 100% to 0%.

I believe this is due to the US Constitution, not Todd.
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#587635 - 03/10/10 04:12 PM Re: Mandate [Re: Dan S.]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
No, the electoral college, which by the way is "mandated" by the US Constitution, is a left wing conspiracy...

Except, of course, in 2000 when it elected Bush over Gore, OVER THE POPULAR VOTE, WHICH GORE WON.

I don't mind being called an ass by someone who clearly has no idea how the government works, and when I tell them, they continue to believe what they want to believe...it's pretty clear who the ass is at that point.

Fish on...

Todd
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#587636 - 03/10/10 04:15 PM Re: Mandate [Re: Dan S.]
r2fishn Offline
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Registered: 06/18/06
Posts: 962
Loc: tacoma

Jeez this might be the dark side but come on Mandates and beaten ass Candy vans WTF is this place becoming.
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#587649 - 03/10/10 05:29 PM Re: Mandate [Re: r2fishn]
stlhead Offline
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Bush wasn't elected in 2000...he was appointed by Republican men wearing robes....I think they called themselves the Supremes....probably all went out on a mandate afterwards.
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#587652 - 03/10/10 05:42 PM Re: Mandate [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Wait...I'm not a mod anymore?

Fuckit.

Fish on...

Todd
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