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#587654 - 03/10/10 05:43 PM Re: Mandate [Re: ]
Jerry Garcia Offline



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I am not saying that the electorial college isn't valid. I'm saying that I believe that the popular vote is also important as an indicator.
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#587657 - 03/10/10 05:51 PM Re: Mandate [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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I don't mind being called an ass by someone who clearly has no idea how the government works, and when I tell them, they continue to believe what they want to believe...it's pretty clear who the ass is at that point.


This is why you're an ass at times, your condescending attitude that you think you are clearly intellectually superior to those that think different than you makes communication difficult at times.
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#587664 - 03/10/10 06:11 PM Re: Mandate [Re: Jerry Garcia]
Todd Offline
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See, I don't think that because you have a different opinion, I think that because you seem to both understand that Presidents aren't elected by popular vote, yet are elected by popular vote if you want to talk about a "mandate"...inconsistent.

It's not intellectual superiority, it's either being right or wrong...guess which one you are?

How'd you speak out about Dubya's "mandate" in his second term when he won the electoral college by about 6%, and the popular vote by 2.4%?

I'll wager you didn't have much problem with it, eh?

I wish we could search the archives on the Dark Side wink

Fish on...

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#587666 - 03/10/10 06:25 PM Re: Mandate [Re: Jerry Garcia]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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Registered: 01/31/02
Posts: 4450
Loc: B'ham
Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
Some of us older folk actually went to school when you were expected to learn and were certainly taught the right stuff in government class. I believe that the popular vote is more important as to the direction of the people than the electoral college.


Oh man, now I remember why I don't come over here much anymore. A battle of wits, they say...

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#587668 - 03/10/10 06:36 PM Re: Mandate [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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Happy Birthday Aaron!

GWB claimed "mandate" in both 2000 and 2004 and the 'conservatives' of this country agreed wholeheartedly.

Obama won the presidency with almost the same margin of victory that Reagan did over Carter... and yet 'conservatives' continually want to ignore and do their abject best to trivialize this fact?

I wonder why that is?
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#587670 - 03/10/10 07:07 PM Re: Mandate [Re: 4Salt]
Todd Offline
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Google up "The Party of No"...and there you will find your answers.

Fish on...

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#587695 - 03/10/10 09:31 PM Re: Mandate [Re: ]
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I'd say that it seems as if some of the Dems are the one's who are pissed. May have something to do with the fact that things just aren't going as smoothly as hoped? As in........the "Let's hold hands and jump" group is disbanding at an alarming rate.

Local libs seem to think that all who think differently than them are the crazy ones........(is that the basic definition of insane?)
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#587801 - 03/11/10 11:06 AM Re: Mandate [Re: ]
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"Local libs seem to think that all who think differently than them are the crazy ones........(is that the basic definition of insane?)"

No...insane is repeating the same mistake expecting a different outcome...in other words voting Republican.
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#587840 - 03/11/10 12:29 PM Re: Mandate [Re: ]
stlhead Offline
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I agree. Can't imagine how bad it would have been if we'd have blown that surplus like the Reps wanted.
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#587877 - 03/11/10 02:29 PM Re: Mandate [Re: ]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
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Originally Posted By: stam
Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
I am not saying that the electorial college isn't valid. I'm saying that I believe that the popular vote is also important as an indicator.


of what?


Apparently, of a mandate or not...not to be confused with a goatdate for KK.

Fish on...

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#587908 - 03/11/10 04:05 PM Re: Mandate [Re: ]
stlhead Offline
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As long as their both adults. The kid's are illegal except in the Enumclaw "free zone".
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#587935 - 03/11/10 05:49 PM Re: Mandate [Re: Todd]
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Registered: 07/11/04
Posts: 3091
Loc: Bothell, Wa
Originally Posted By: Todd
Originally Posted By: Rocket Red
I actually really like this. The next time I beat some one at something I am going to say, "I beat your ass so bad, it was a mandate!"


This past week I outfished my fishing buddies by a mile...I caught one, they caught none.

Now that's a mutherfuckin mandate.

smile

Fish on...

Todd


No, that there is a mutherfuckin anti-Dolly mandate smile
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#587976 - 03/11/10 07:26 PM Re: Mandate [Re: BroodBuster]
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
I figure since you caught a dolly and thought it was a steelhead, you caught a grand total of -1 steelhead...you need to get one next week just to get back to zero.

Fish on...

Todd

P.S. I know I caught a couple DV's, too, but we didn't row to shore and get the net out to get mine in!
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#587983 - 03/11/10 07:33 PM Re: Mandate [Re: Todd]
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Registered: 07/11/04
Posts: 3091
Loc: Bothell, Wa
Originally Posted By: Todd
I figure since you caught a dolly and thought it was a steelhead, you caught a grand total of -1 steelhead...you need to get one next week just to get back to zero.

Fish on...

Todd

P.S. I know I caught a couple DV's, too, but we didn't row to shore and get the net out to get mine in!


I never once uttered the word steelhead or get the net or take me to shore. I couldn't see sh!t. Clearly a mandate on the rowers part smile .
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#587984 - 03/11/10 07:35 PM Re: Mandate [Re: BroodBuster]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
I'm blameless...I wasn't holding a fishing rod and thinking I might have a steelhead on when it was really a five pound dolly, and I wasn't rowing the boat to shore to net it, and calling it a steelhead like our illustrious rower was...

Fish on...

Todd
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