Blue water,

If your company started using E-Verify, why aren't the farmers required to, also? Every job I've had in the last 30 years required me to prove I was an American citizen with two forms of ID. Why aren't the farmers required to do the same?

Surely farmers aren't too stupid to realize they're hiring illegals? Or is it rather they know nothing will happen to them for doing so?

It's really quite simple, put a couple of them in jail, make them forfeit they businesses, and I guarantee you'll see a sharp reduction in illegals being hired. With no jobs, no income, they will be far less likely to come across the border. And it won't cost us the billions the repubs want to spend.

Put a few employers in jail, confiscate their business and I'll bet others start voluntarily using E-Verify or something equivalent. Put the onus on the employer to ensure his employees are legit.

You're required by law not to hire illegal immigrants. Put some business owners in jail. Make an example out of a few of them.

I'd go with bar codes stamped on the back of everyone's neck...while we're at it, let's instal GPS chips in everyone's left ass cheek.

Considering they don't want too much gubmint intrusion, the RWWJ's sure want to make sure the gubmint knows who we are, what we are, where we are, and who were with...about the most hypocritical thing about the wingnuts...and that's saying something.

Fish on...

Todd

That's a terrible cop out and the root of the illegal immigration problem.

Some of you talk about stolen IDs like it's the norm; it's not, it's the exception.

If these fake IDs are so good to fool all those smart businessmen, why aren't they good enough to fool law enforcement? Is LE really that much smarter than all those farmers in Arizona?

Why don't the employers require the same as LE?

Maybe another time seastrike off to hawaii for 2 months so maybe when i get back

Gotta love folks from the NW and the seasons. In the SW Summer is the bad weather, hotter than hell. ( well almost ) The other three seasons it is very nice in the flat lands. Snow Bird heaven 8 months a year but come summer even the snakes hide. Need to visit in late Fall through Spring it is a different world.

I got bored pretty quick in Santa Barbara...eleven months of summer, one month of misty rain...blah.

I have only had two types of weather in Arizona...hotterthanshit, or raininglikeamotherfucker.

Didn't really like either.

Fish on...

Todd

Yup. AZ fishing blows major donkey cox.

Matter o' fact, my fly rods didn't come out of hibernation the entire time I was down there. Since it was a record setting 127º that weekend, we bugged out and took I-40 straight to SoCal and spent the July 4th weekend on the beaches of San Diego County. I swear hauling my camper across that state took 1/4 in. of rubber off my tires.


WTF this has to do with illegal immigration I dunno and dont give a fawk.

What my experience with illegals is involves a job as a teenager working swing shift as the only white guy in a cold-storage warehouse full of under the table illegals. A good way to get knifed.

Illegals, Muslims, Democrats, liberals, the government... it's all the same to wingnuts.

Just another in the LONG list of things for them to fear, hate and blame their pathetic existences on.

I'm not comparing anything or anybody BWP.

The reality is that illegal immigration is a minor problem in this country when looked at in a big picture sense. But fanatical right-wingers don't understand or really seem to care about that fact.

My point is that it could be Muslims or Democrats or illegal immigrants... it doesn't really matter. In the conservative mind... any and all of them are to blame for all of life's problems. It's so much easier than facing their own shortcomings that way.

Blow it out your ass.
What an arrogant POS.

What's "more of an issue" depends on how you measure importance...if you are an politician looking at an actual issue that actually affects your constituency in a real and measurable way, then illegal immigration would barely make a blip on the radar...if you are a politician looking at what polarizing hot button issue can distinguish you from your opponents and garner you votes, then illegal immigration is high on your list in a place like Arizona.

That's also the explanation for the gigantic hullabaloo over what should be a 100% non-issue, that of abortion. Same with religion, though to be fair, that's all the abortion issue involves, too.

Fish on...

Todd

P.S. Checking in from Missoula, three weeks on the road starting yesterday

I get so goddamn sick and tired of shitstains like you prince.
I try to defend my outdoor, hunting, fishing, ranching lifestyles all the time due to idiots like you that make these broad brushed attacks and try to lump everyone in and from California together.
You are no better than a racist due to your blanket generalizations.

F*cks like you are the ones that vandalize vehicles at trail heads when you see California plates.
You think you are somehow superior to a guy from here because of your zip code?
Whatafuckingjoke.
You spread the hatred of sportsmen you see from California like we are the whacked out liberal treehugging freaks that want to remove you from your guns and hunting.




In the above post you lambaste a guy for being ignorant and unperceptive.
WTF?
Take a look in the mirror jerkoff.

Northern California ain't the shithole you think it is, both in geography and human composition.
Trust me dickwad, you ain't holding a candle to the hunters & fishers I'm runnin with.
These Cali boyz are hunting and fishing way more than your self righteous almighty Washington keyboard punching ass.
You can take your ignorant bullsh*t somewhere else.
I'm bettin my teenage kid has more hunting & fishing under his belt than your smarmy ass.

I see more liberals on this Washington based board than any other outdoor board I have ever spent time on.
Oh wait, those must all be California transplants right?
Just continue to polish BigSticks nuts, maybe you can raise your IQ a few points.
"Just Kidding"......not really.




Sure we are....

DANG! Did I really start all this crap by sharing an e-mail?

SHEESH!

Welcome to the darkside Doc,
Don't take much just a twig and light puff of blowhard and you've got..........

BTW FishPrince,

This might surprise you but your a bigot!

Main Entry: big·ot
Pronunciation: \ˈbi-gət\
Function: noun
Etymology: French, hypocrite, bigot
Date: 1660
: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance

I am exceedingly tolerant.

Yes, and it would have quietly sunken to the bottom if you hadn't resurrected it a month later.

what a $hitshow