Not that I give a flying rat's ass, only putting it up cuz if it were a republican Todd, KK and the entire liberal flotilla would be marching it down main street. Just here to keep things real.
Funny how that works around here isn't it. You could even add Pelosi's 18K per month office in S.F. that the tax payers pay for, if that were a republican I am sure they would be on it, or if Alvin Green in S.C. was a Tea Party backed candidate we'd have a thread several pages long by now, but because there Dem whack jobs, not a peep.
Registered: 10/16/99
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Loc: Enumclaw, Washington, USA
Typical frustrated liberal that is about to get spanked. Had that been someone that supported conservatism it would have been in the news for a week and an effort to impeach the individual would have been in high gear.
Partisanship has no monopoly on jackassedness or asshattery. And Congress is a perfect example. I keep waiting for a Senator or Congressman to say something intelligent. It's been a long wait . . .
Off topic a bit, but it would be so, so easy to vote against Murray this year, . . . except that the Rs decided to run azzhole Rossi against her. That clinching move assures that thousands of independents and undecided will vote for Murray again. It's not that difficult, if only there were some signs of intelligent life within partisan politics.
Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10878
Loc: McCleary, WA
Speaking of going off topic, I loved the King 5 non-news story where two black girls were arrested for resisting and assault, and King 5 tried to make that into a hate crime. Gotta love that media spin, or implied spin. That girl is lucky she didn't get tased or got taken to the ground with a good old hair hold (my personal favorite back in the day).
This story about the rude democrat, and any examples that may come to light about a rude republican, really just show that they are all assholes, and we need to vote out all of these entitled incumbent SOB's, be they R or D.
Clear the lot of them out. All this video does is to fan the flames of the fascination with abomination that is so active in our society today.
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I don't care if my politicians are a-holes. I don't care if your politicians are a-holes.
I just want some damn talent beyond ass-kissery, back stabbery and suck holery.
Unfortunately the people who have the kind of talent I would like to see run this country, are utilizing their talents to create wealth, not use it up.
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Personally:
I emailed her about harvesting the blow down timber around Lake Quinault, gave me a BS "we can't do that" answer.
Business wise:
She votes contrary to common sense on financial industry issues most of the time. She also contributed to the $400,000+ in additional costs that my bank will spend this year responding to unneeded financial reform.
Many of the regulations enacted under her watch do nothing to protect consumers. They add time and expense to the mortgage process, and the consumer foots the bill for it. Maybe 1 in 10 of the changes were actually needed.
Finally:
She's an entrenched incumbent. Time to leave.
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She voted "No" on funding our troops in Iraq and Afgahnistan ......enough said! Wether or not she agrees with them being there is one thing, but denying them the funding that they need to do the job they were sent there to do?????? To me that is absurd and unforgivable, I hope come November she will be EX-Senator Murray.
Aunty, with regards to the funding of Operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, I have to disagree with you somewhat. The bill was supported by Blanche Lincoln, Mary Landrieu, Barb Mikulski, Debbie Stabenow and Claire McKaskill and I'm pretty sure they are all liberal females.
You're hitting par today again. Murray is savy and scores points on veterans affairs. Her savy about ingratiating herself with anti-war positions and economic matters unfortunately has her voting bassakwards on a lot of financial issues, where the public is either ignorant or flat out wrong, per Dogfish's points. It's a set of conundrum issues where the electorate is uninformed (IMO), and Murray adopts the position that appeals to them even though she has access to the information that likely allows her to know better. At least these are the inferences I draw from the smarmy patronizing response letters her staffers write. I'm easily offended when a political staffer writes something that could only come from a dumfvk or a liar. But I'll vote for Murray again simply because Rossi is the probably R candidate.
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
I haven't read any of this since I last posted on it, so forgive me if someone pointed out the obvious...
This guy has to act like a total asshat to get "the treatment" that he deserves...most of the RWWJ's that you guys sack-suckle deserve the same treatment when they just act in their normal day to day routine...their usual behavior is worthy of being id'd as total asshattery.
??? What do you mean? I'm more anti-Rossi than I am pro-Murray; consequently Murray gets my vote. What's hypocritical or lying about that? Seems like you're making up conclusions absent supporting evidence.
"Rossi is a land raper." Care to elaborate. I want facts. How did he rape the enviroment. Most people see rampant development and blame developers. They fail to realize that the increased density is a result of the growth management act. I hate rampant accusations that lack backing. Until all homes meet 25% of the current standards maybe we should back off new development a little. Putting new standards on new homes while requiring no retroactive improvements is just another way the "ME" generation of baby boomers passing the costs of their lack of foresite on to their children.
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Originally Posted By: Krijack
Until all homes meet 25% of the current standards maybe we should back off new development a little. Putting new standards on new homes while requiring no retroactive improvements is just another way the "ME" generation of baby boomers passing the costs of their lack of foresite on to their children.
So just who is going to montior this, who will levy fees and fines for non-compliance, at what point will these older homes need to be brought up to "code", and who will pay for this? Talk about your unfunded mandates and government intrusion.
Electrical codes have little to do with safety and more to do with some lobbyist for a switch maker paying off someone to make everybody use tamper resistant recepticles in new homes after January/February 2009. Funny thing is my shop was completed in December 2008, and passed electrical inspection w/o issue. The I applied for my house electrical, I now had to use different plugs. So can you really say that I am that much safer because of the different plugs in the house vs. the shop? Both were code at one time.
This is just one exapmle of a code update. Imagine all of the other ones out there? Put your plan into place and these industry lobbyists would be falling all overthemselves introducing new code changes.
Show your work Krjack. Substantiate your statement.
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Aunty, Do you know start to insult when you don't have an answer. Owing back property taxes does not make you a slime, it makes you owe huge penalties. And what does that have to do with being a land raper? I can handle anything and do. Dog fish, I really don't think we need to make all code retroactive, but I do think it is unreasonable to put excessive codes when the result does not justify the cost and at the same time ignore problems that could be fixed at a minimal cost because they are grandfathered in. I worked on developing a parcel in Pierce County in which the neighbor on the far side of the property cleared a portion of the wetland back in the 1970's. The county required that we replant the section on our property, while not requiring her to do anything. All of our impact was on the far side of the wetland, about 500 or more from where any new development would take place. From the looks of it, the neighbors yard was completely wetland. My solution would have been to quit claim the section she damaged to her and the problem would then disappear, since the county agreed her actions were grandfathered. We sold the property before we finished and the new owner submitted to the county requirement. My estimate is that they spent $10,000 to replant a 5 by 100 foot section next to her yard. The rest of the developed parcel had 100 foot or bigger buffers to the wetland, but her cleared yard would flood every winter. In her defense, part of the runoff was due to the other neighbor filling in his portion of the wetland and stopping runoff. I am sure they were all there at the hearings talking about how increased development was going to hurt the enviroment. They always are.
Come on Aunty, I know you are too smart to be putting that crap out there about Dino and the back taxes issue, even the Dem Party itself has backed off that mis-statement already ...
"But according to a source intimately familiar with Rossi's business dealings, the DSCC, too, has a big, glaring problem in making that allegation. Specifically, the $20,000 tax problem that the DSCC says "Dino Rossi's firm has" is in fact one belonging to a totally different entity. Whereas the $20,000 debt is owed by a firm called Coast Equity Partners I, which owns a property in respect of which a tenant that went bust was supposed to pay these taxes, Dino Rossi is a partner in Coast Equity Partners II. Get it? They're two different firms. And the one that Dino is involved with doesn't own the property. So they aren't responsible for the back taxes. So Dino Rossi isn't a big tax cheat with ethics problems, like the DSCC wants you to believe. "
And if you are going to lay claim that Dino Rossi is a criminal, what crime did he commit? You may not like the man, but to resort to slander???? I really thought you were above that.
Registered: 12/12/09
Posts: 1025
Loc: Termite Country
AM,
Since you're all about researching backgrounds look into Clint Didier and vote in the August primary. Then you can be a part of the solution to the problem of the state GOP offering up terrible candidates.
As far as Rossi goes,....I'm no fan,.....never have been. Although pointing to his business seminar on teaching investors how to buy foreclosed property, as the author of your C&P does, is no example of nefarious activity. The author talks in circles and destroys his own argument when he/she mentions that someone has to buy the properties. Rossi pointing out that it's a great time to buy and that the housing market is on the edge of fiscal disaster are two congruent statements. It's not a "one or the other",.....they're one and the same.
If your stuck on the fact that he should be convicted of a crime you really should offer some concrete proof to your claim. Working with a convicted felon does not make one a felon himself. Jus' sayin'.
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I wouldn't exactly call Rossi the frontrunner at this point. Not sure what information is leading you to that conclusion other than your gut feelings. Latest NW Digest poll has Didier leading Rossi by 6 points.
Didier also won the straw poll at the state GOP convention.
Like I said,....no fan of Rossi, never have been. If I was faced with a choice of him or Murray,.......I'd vote for none of the above or any no name independent on the ballot. Call it a wasted vote if you will, but the only wasted vote is the one not cast.
My point earlier was that doing business with a convicted criminal does not make one a criminal himself. If the guy did his time, paid his debt to society, and is on the up and up now why should anyone assume that his current business activities are anything but above board? May or may not be the case. Just saying that if you're accusing them of criminal actions, you better have more proof than that.
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Aunty, What does "he worked with a criminal" or talked about foreclosures have to do with being a land raper? I asked a question you respond with a derogatory remark. Then you call me stupid and answer with a different accusation. Maybe if I was stupid, I would slink away. Lets look at this objectively. You don't like Rossi, so you resort to insults and accusations. You don't like being questioned on it, so you resort to insults. Questioned again you make other insults and different accusations. Are we seeing a pattern emerging?
Wasn't Rossi's largest donor the BIAW? Not that I'm against building, just against the unregulated development and building that BIAW and Rossi championed.
I listened to a Rossi interview a couple weeks back, and he was total slime, but very careful to push all the appropriate conservative buttons without actually saying or committing to anything intelligent. Murray could be defeated, but not if the Rs can only run a slimy candidate.
Your complete and total lack of political acumen never ceases to amaze.
Back Didier, the guy who takes the Farm Subsidies he's supposedly against. Nothing like a floating sense of core values to bring out the douchebaggery that is the Tea Party. It's not too difficult to see the ads right now, concussion ridden trough feeder who has a recent epiphany and now paints himself as champion of the 'Palin Wing' of the GOP....................
He will not win........................
I'm aware of the credibilty of the poll, or lack there of. Never did I make the claim that it was something that bears any substantial weight. I merely pointed it out as something that shows Rossi can't necessarily be considered the front runner as of yet.
Frankly I'm growing a little bored of the game you and I play. We disagree,.......that much is obvious. What the casual reader of this board would probably never realize is you and I agree on a number of issues. Make no mistake about it, the GOP has a tough road ahead in November. As you already know I'm no fan of most GOP pols. The fracturing of the party will make it difficult for the base to rally behind any one candidate. No where have you seen me make any predictions or forecasts about the GOP gaining any seats this November.
That said I'll continue to throw my support behind any GOP or Independent candidate that supports issues I feel best represent my values. If you wish to continue hurling insults my way,....have at it,.....you only reveal what a true dip$hit you are.
As far as Didier's position on farm subsidies go,......I'll offer his response from his website:
PARTICIPATION IN THE USDA FARM SERVICE PROGRAMS
Since declaring my candidacy for the U. S. Senate considerable criticism has been made of my participation in the USDA Farm Service programs. Yes, as a farmer I have been a recipient of monies from FSA programs. However, my past participation does not preclude my belief it is time to end the government farm subsidy program; let farmers become self-sufficient and build their own internal insurance and cooperative relief programs. These government programs, make agriculture an industry held hostage for political purposes.
I’ve now been farming for 20 years after retiring from the NFL. Farming can be both trying and rewarding . In l944, several USDA predecessor agencies were merged into FSA and primarily tasked with implementation of farm conservation and regulation laws around the country.
To soften crop losses when a natural disaster occurs, FSA offers a crop insurance program entitled NAP. Every year, I have purchased this crop insurance , and twice I have been paid for crop losses. In order to qualify for NAP, your Governor must designate your area a disaster besides meeting other USDA mandated program requirements. To receive 50% of a 50% crop loss (25% of the crop value), an average two-year wait is usually required. Not the greatest insurance policy ever written.
I have also participated in Commodity Credit Corporation programs created in l933 to “stabilize, support, and protect farm income and prices” through acreage payments. Our nation has always supported a cheap food policy. Some years back, when the price of wheat became too high, our government conveniently dumped government stored wheat on the market to lower market price. When prices are too low, the farmer is “stabilized” through government acreage payments –a “help” to make up what the farmer’s income should, or could, have been.
Participants certify yearly with their local FSA office acres planted and to what crop. If your current acreage enrollment is out of whack, too many acres of one commodity based on your past production, you are ineligible for participation. This allows the government to exercise control over planted acres of certain commodities.
Although the public is continually told of huge farm payments through USDA programs, what is generally not known is 72% of these subsidies are earmarked for child nutrition, food stamp programs, and temporary assistance for needy families. Perhaps the USDA Farm Bill is mis-labeled and should be called the USDA Welfare Bill. In 2002, only ll% of appropriated monies went to farmers. The other 17% went to other categories; the biggest of those being titled miscellaneous.
The American farmer is the most efficient in the world – supplying the American public with the finest quality produce, grains, fruits and dairy products. Continued government micro-management, over-regulation, and restrictive practices places our abundant food supply in jeopardy. Currently, 50% of the produce available to the American consumer is brought in from foreign producers who do not have to meet the same standards required of the American farmer as it relates to the use of fertilizers, chemicals, and pesticide applications.
In 2001, Al Gore advised a young Future Farmer of America to look for a new occupation because ALL of our food would eventually be imported. Europe realized during World II, the incontestable value of their own reliable food supply and have since jealously guarded the well-being of their food producers. Any nation dependent on importation of their food is at the mercy of the supplier.
Clint Didier Candidate for U.S. Senate
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Chuck's going for a record to see how many different threads he can get that clip into...and I'm all for it!
I think Rossi's an asshat for two reasons...
1. He is owned, from the bottom of his tassle loafers to the top of his hairdo, by the BIAW.
2. He used to be my state rep, and I tried to have some conversations with him, face to face, about issues in my district back then, and it was like talking to a junior high student...he not only didn't grasp simple concepts about governance and politics, but could barely even identify any issues to be ignorant about in the first place.
He could run on the Todd Is A Mod Party's ticket, and I'd still vote for anyone else.
Thanks; Didier's statement on farm programs comes off as thoughtful and reasonable. A GOP candidate who admits to an issue being more complex than simple black or white is a rarity. I'm surprised the Tea Baggers endorse him, as they're all about B&W.
KK,
Thanks for the Rossi/BIAW background report; it's all coming back now.