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#586513 - 03/05/10 05:48 PM 470,000?? I'm not so sure......
stlhdr1 Offline
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Registered: 01/26/00
Posts: 6312
Loc: Vancouver, WA
Well, put some time in on the CR lately. Chasing that mythical 470,000 springers....

I've had the chance at 1 in 3 trips, a buddy of mine has 4 in his boat in 7 trips and I've seen a few fish taken....

Water temp is 43-44 degrees. If there is going to be 470K, it better get rolling soon or it'll be a no go.......

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#586516 - 03/05/10 05:57 PM Re: 470,000?? I'm not so sure...... [Re: stlhdr1]
SBD Offline
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Registered: 10/19/09
Posts: 3731
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Bio Buddy of mine attended one the preseason forecast meetings. He said they had like 17 different models that showed a run from 100,000 to 1,000,000..Since they couldn't agree they just met in the middle.
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#586533 - 03/05/10 07:47 PM Re: 470,000?? I'm not so sure...... [Re: SBD]
Twitch Offline
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Registered: 02/22/09
Posts: 2741
Loc: Oregon Central Coast
Originally Posted By: SBD
Bio Buddy of mine attended one the preseason forecast meetings. He said they had like 17 different models that showed a run from 100,000 to 1,000,000..Since they couldn't agree they just met in the middle.


There were 7 models, which generated numbers from 366,000 - 528,000.

Jack counts were 4X higher than ever previously recorded, thus were seen as an statistical outlier, and they went further, to include optimal conditions for both outmigrating smolt, and juveniles in the ocean.

That's where the 470K came from...
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#586539 - 03/05/10 07:52 PM Re: 470,000?? I'm not so sure...... [Re: Twitch]
SBD Offline
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Registered: 10/19/09
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Loc: Water
Must of thrown out the other ten and kept the middle seven..


http://www.cbbulletin.com/368669.aspx


Edited by SBD (03/05/10 07:55 PM)
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#586540 - 03/05/10 07:57 PM Re: 470,000?? I'm not so sure...... [Re: SBD]
Dave Vedder Offline
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Registered: 10/09/02
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Loc: West Duvall
Talked to Clancy Holt today. He is excited. From all his contacts he beleives the runs looks like its going to be big. I don't pretend to know anything about it, but have a lot of faith in Clancy's network and instincts.
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#586543 - 03/05/10 08:11 PM Re: 470,000?? I'm not so sure...... [Re: Dave Vedder]
SBD Offline
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If half a million hatch fish shoot over that dam EyeDoc's not going to take it well..


Edited by SBD (03/05/10 08:11 PM)
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#586548 - 03/05/10 08:17 PM Re: 470,000?? I'm not so sure...... [Re: SBD]
Lucky Louie Offline
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Registered: 11/30/09
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Originally Posted By: SBD
If half a million hatch fish shoot over that dam EyeDoc's not going to take it well..


Ya, I know, who would?
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#586549 - 03/05/10 08:21 PM Re: 470,000?? I'm not so sure...... [Re: Lucky Louie]
SBD Offline
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Tribes.. bow
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#586554 - 03/05/10 08:34 PM Re: 470,000?? I'm not so sure...... [Re: SBD]
slabhunter Offline
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Registered: 01/17/04
Posts: 3744
Loc: Sheltona Beach
It's still early IMHO. Seems to me the lower river stocks start to show with the smelt.

The upriver fish don't normally show until the river warms up a bit more. My log book shows springers once the water temperature is more like 46 °F. 2cents
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#586555 - 03/05/10 08:39 PM Re: 470,000?? I'm not so sure...... [Re: slabhunter]
Dave Vedder Offline
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Registered: 10/09/02
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Originally Posted By: slabhunter
It's still early IMHO. Seems to me the lower river stocks start to show with the smelt.

The upriver fish don't normally show until the river warms up a bit more. My log book shows springers once the water temperature is more like 46 °F. 2cents


That's pretty much what Clancy sida. He's convinced it will be excellent in about two to three weeks.
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#586560 - 03/05/10 08:49 PM Re: 470,000?? I'm not so sure...... [Re: Dave Vedder]
The Moderator Offline
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Loc: Tuleville
There *were* a half million springers......
























....until they all died due to sea lice infestations!
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#586561 - 03/05/10 08:49 PM Re: 470,000?? I'm not so sure...... [Re: Dave Vedder]
billjr64 Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 12/25/09
Posts: 141
Loc: SW WA.
44.4 deg. today, no fish, 7 hrs.,. sea lion did ok though. Bill

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#586565 - 03/05/10 09:00 PM Re: 470,000?? I'm not so sure...... [Re: The Moderator]
slabhunter Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 01/17/04
Posts: 3744
Loc: Sheltona Beach
Originally Posted By: parker
There *were* a half million springers......

....until they all died due to sea lice infestations!



Or wasted as bycatch in the pollock/whitting trawls along our coast! fridge
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#586566 - 03/05/10 09:04 PM Re: 470,000?? I'm not so sure...... [Re: billjr64]
bait dunker Offline
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Registered: 12/06/09
Posts: 597
For Gods sake, its only the first week of March! There have been a lot of fish caught so far, considering how early it is. Everybody needs to just settle down, all this internet fish chasing is seriously out of control. Do you really want to start calling it a down year on March 5th?
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#586570 - 03/05/10 09:10 PM Re: 470,000?? I'm not so sure...... [Re: bait dunker]
stlhdr42 Offline
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Registered: 10/13/08
Posts: 843
Loc: where the fish swim
Things were lookin good in late feb but slowed down the last week. I have had 4 fish in 4 trips with the last 2 trips fishless. On tuesday the temp got up to 46.3 in the afternoon. Should explode anyday, gonna hit it sunday. The late feb push of fish were almost all white faced willy fish, I have only seen a couple upriver ones so far. I have faith, for now.
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#586589 - 03/05/10 10:20 PM Re: 470,000?? I'm not so sure...... [Re: The Moderator]
SBD Offline
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Registered: 10/19/09
Posts: 3731
Loc: Water
You guys in PS better start screaming about that sealice stuff, worse than LNG terminals.. help
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#586604 - 03/05/10 11:17 PM Re: 470,000?? I'm not so sure...... [Re: SBD]
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River Nutrients

Registered: 03/27/02
Posts: 3188
Loc: U.S. Army
I'm thinking the peak will actually come in two waves. The first wave will run through Cathlamet from 8-11 April, and the second wave will run through the same area 24-27 April. That's what I'm seeing from the computer models I've run. Coincidentally those models just happen to synch with the vacation time I'm taking. wink
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#586614 - 03/05/10 11:44 PM Re: 470,000?? I'm not so sure...... [Re: goharley]
fp Offline
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Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 2888
Loc: Hoquiam,WA.USA
Originally Posted By: goharley
and the second wave will run through the same area 24-27 April. That's what I'm seeing from the computer models I've run. Coincidentally those models just happen to synch with the vacation time I'm taking. wink


Doesn't the Columbia close on the 18th of April? I've got my RV spot rented from the 31st of March through the 17th of April. And I missing something?

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#586616 - 03/05/10 11:57 PM Re: 470,000?? I'm not so sure...... [Re: fp]
Direct-Drive Offline
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Registered: 11/10/09
Posts: 7960
Loc: Vancouver, WA
Yeah, through April 18th below Bonneville. The bubble fisheries will probably still be open after the 18th.
Such as mouth of:
Cowlitz, Kalama, Lewis, etc.

When they're crossing Bonneville in good numbers, the Wind bubble, which is quite liberal, gets very good.

If you have the gumption, you can chase these guys through June.
You will be in skinnier water or way up the big C, however.


Edited by Direct-Drive (03/05/10 11:59 PM)
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#586620 - 03/06/10 12:18 AM Re: 470,000?? I'm not so sure...... [Re: Direct-Drive]
fp Offline
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Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 2888
Loc: Hoquiam,WA.USA
This is the question I had.

"And the second wave will run through the same area 24-27 April."

Just seems that goharley is fishing there those dates?????

And, I'm fishing
there on the 18th too but only have to pay
for the RV spot through the 17th.

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