Anyone ever hear how the selective fishing sampling went in the lower CR?

Keith

Here's an update through October 8th for the commercial fisherman including the selective areas...

--Late-fall mainstem commercial season update: Commercial fishers landed about 539 Chinook, 1,752 coho, seven chum, and 307 white sturgeon for approximately 89 deliveries in Zones 1 - 5 in the second mainstem fishing period this past week (7pm Thursday Oct. 7th to 7am Friday Oct. 8th). Cumulate late-fall season landing totals, so far, are at 7,436 Chinook, 4,310 coho, 13 chum, and 745 white sturgeon. The next fishing period is set for Sunday night (7pm Oct. 10th to 7am Oct. 11th in Zones 1 – 5; 8-inch minimum and 9 ¾-inch maximum mesh size restr.).


As of October 8 (through Week 41), a total of 20,020 fall Chinook, 56,223 coho, and 120 white sturgeon have been landed in all fall Select Area commercial fisheries combined (Youngs Bay, Blind Slough/Knappa Slough, Tongue Point/South Channel, and Deep River (DR through Week 40)).

--Youngs Bay landings have slowed during the last several weeks as commercial fishers landed about 22 Chinook and almost 310 coho during this past week (for season totals, so far, of 8,126 and 26,708 respectively--during August 4 – October 8).

--Now that mainstem late-fall seasons have begun in the lower river, Blind Slough/Knappa Slough fishers landed only about three fall Chinook and 89 coho during the past week for season totals, so far, of 9,696 fall Chinook and 5,121 coho.

--Since mainstem late-fall seasons have begun in the lower river during Week 41, Tongue Point/South Channel fishers landed only just less than ten coho during the past week for season totals, so far, of 1,198 fall Chinook and 6,248 coho.

--WDFW reports totals of 1,000 fall Chinook and 18,146 coho through Week 40 for the Deep River Select Area fall commercial fishery.

Keith

Did a little digging and answered my own question from above... Here's the catch info for the purse seine, beach seine and trap nets....

Purse Seine, Beach Seine and trap net #'s for LCR 2010

Keith

thats more coho than sports caught off the coast all summer, hopefully when they add selective fishing to the gillnets in the main stem they will be able to catch twice that amount

With those results, tell me why they need to selectively fish the Columbia again? Why can't they just stay in their SAFE areas?

Keith

Because it wasn't CCA's idea? Doesn't screw sportanglers enough? It's already paid for and operational?

Why doesn't CCA support that?

Keith

spotted owl.....changed logging forever in the PNW

Selective fishing.....Next major change----either buy in or look for another career choice. Ya can fight it, drag your feet...........but its going to happen!!!! Sooner the better, wild fish deserve no less!!!!!

i dont make my living from fishing but i do enjoy salmon fishing so the only thing this means to me is find other places to fish since this state wont have to many good fisherys left.

I don't think much of anything is going to happen intill we hear from NMFS in the spring on what hatchery stocks are going to get cut.

if i had to guess i`d say none of them or very few will be cut and the new selective commercial fishing operation will be considered the savior of salmon

Will see but I'm hearing through the grapevine that NMFS might not be to keen on the all the handle thats going to be required.

Considering the sample size these #'s could go astronomical if they switched the entire fleet to selective gear and cut them loose...

Looking forward to the mortality rate estimates...

Keith

Stlhdr1,

You need to compare catch per landing of the alternative gear with gillnet catches. Since beach and purse seine gear requires a larger crew and more expensive gear, the catch per landing needs to be significantly greater than with a gillnet boat that can be manned and operated by one fisherman. Absent the higher catch per landing, there is no profit from alternative gear. Which is why my suggestion to retrofit traps to existing fish ladders is the selective alternative that actually makes economic and biological sense.

Sg

Retrofitting fish ladders makes sense to me........crew needed, one man, one dip net.......cost....vehicle expense's......suggestion.....remove upriver native nets and have them line up at the ladders as well........wiers or hatchery ladders on tribs as well.........someone can figure out how many fish by looking at old counts of all parties involved.......would still allow same amount of sport fishing as normal.............so what are we waiting for.........and please MARK ALL THE HATCHERY FISH..............Nah it's to simple

OK so let me get this straight.... For 2010 the commercial fisherman from both the CR and SAFE areas have harvested an estimated 49,981 chinook and 61,005 coho through October 8th combined per ODFW's website..

You're telling me the revenue from that # of fish can't support alternative gear crews? I beg to differ... One would think there's somewhere around $4 million in revenue from this years fall fishery, perhaps more....

I do agree with your suggestion with retrofitting traps on fish ladders, that could be the solve all problem....

Keith

You would have to take your 4millon and divide by 150 active permit holders to get average exvessel price. Also I haven't looked at the site but kings coming out of Big Creek Hatchery are almost all boot Tules which are sold for about 50-65 cents a pound.

it looks to me like the state is going to help outfit the boats, whats your take on that ?

The plan for 2011 will include a long-term mortality study and the development of an implementation plan that maps out strategies for investment, marketing, equipping, location and gear type

http://www.cbbulletin.com/393123.aspx

To limit those impacts, there are three available management tools: increasing the harvest of hatchery fish; installing tributary weirs to remove hatchery fish, and/or decreasing hatchery production, Tweit said.



Bet we get all three..

i think weirs are the only true way to keep hatchery fish off the spawning grounds other than not planting any at all.