maybe you should volunteer to be a guest speaker at a cca meeting and explain to them how the system realy works ??,

Yes I'm laughing at you ---not with you,

You must be starting to believe your own propaganda.

Boater this is how the system works.

NOAA proposed and implemented integrating hatchery with wild in the CR by using their science. In the final draft there was concerns submitted during public input period that were answered similar to your questions you ask on here with ESA listed fish mixed with hatchery. . I suggest you look them up for your answers.

Obviously, NOAA could care less about your concerns because now we have mass amount of hatchery fish mixed with ESA listed wild.
NOAA science now dictates “use them or lose them” to keep funding for hatcheries while keeping hatchery fish off spawning beds.

WDFW already is testing selective commercial gear to reduce mortality rate = more fish off spawning beds.

So what is your proposal or plan of action to “use them or lose them”?
So far a handful of you are supporting cutting hatchery funding by just sitting there.

PS I would suggest if you have any problems with the system on ESA listed and hatchery fish to contact NOAA.They started it and now they are apparently attempting to end it.

Hey your right! I asked around on how the selective fishing tests are going and I guess the beach seine down off of Sand Island is having good results. 7-800 fish for a couple of days of tests, now we can extract 50% of the hatchery fish mulitply that times a 40 day season x's 100 seines and now we know why they were banned in the first place..

After reading the report that brushbear posted it all makes perfect sense now, sport economic value comes from opportunity not from actually catching a fish. .

Yes I'm laughing at you ---not with you,

You must be starting to believe your own propaganda.

Boater this is how the system works.

NOAA proposed and implemented integrating hatchery with wild in the CR by using their science. In the final draft there was concerns submitted during public input period that were answered similar to your questions you ask on here with ESA listed fish mixed with hatchery. . I suggest you look them up for your answers.

Obviously, NOAA could care less about your concerns because now we have mass amount of hatchery fish mixed with ESA listed wild.
NOAA science now dictates “use them or lose them” to keep funding for hatcheries while keeping hatchery fish off spawning beds.

WDFW already is testing selective commercial gear to reduce mortality rate = more fish off spawning beds.

So what is your proposal or plan of action to “use them or lose them”?
So far a handful of you are supporting cutting hatchery funding by just sitting there.

PS I would suggest if you have any problems with the system on ESA listed and hatchery fish to contact NOAA.They started it and now they are apparently attempting to end it.

let me ask you 3 questions,

1) do you think the wdfw does a good job predicting numbers of returning salmon ?

2) do you believe the wdfw numbers on how many esa listed fish are killed durring a gillnet season on the LCR ?

3) do you believe the wdfw can craft a season to remove the required amount of hatchery fish off the spawning grounds to meet the hsrg recommendations using the new selective commercial fishing gear ?

So you are finally admitting hatchery funding cuts are in order?

cant answer the questions ?

Your material seems to be getting old, stale, dated, obsolete and antiquated just like gill nets. Both of you need a change.

You admitting to something would be a new beginning.

How do you know that they are not in fact ad clipping their hatchery fish?
Federal mandates in 2003 required Tribal hatcheries to clip all their releases, except for fish designated for research and stream re propagation purposes.
Spring chinook brood stock years 2004 and 2005 show Tribal mark rates around 90%.
But you already knew that,why are you saying that they are not clipping their fish?
Any data to back that statement up? Not interested in any in boat observations.

Are you really for hatchery funding cuts.?

Good scare tactic.........

Keith

Hey your right! I asked around on how the selective fishing tests are going and I guess the beach seine down off of Sand Island is having good results. 7-800 fish for a couple of days of tests, now we can extract 50% of the hatchery fish mulitply that times a 40 day season x's 100 seines and now we know why they were banned in the first place..

Pretty scary really....... You cut loose a fleet of them and it's mop up time.......

Keith

Are you really for hatchery funding cuts.?

Sports fish from Bouy10 to a deadline and seiners fish from deadline to Bonny to clean up. Leaving sports over full run of salmon for the most amount of time allowed possible with mortality issue in mind.