It will be a way for them to access the sockeye fishery which has been off limits because of the steelhead issue.

It won't be long and they'll be harvesting them in big #s........ A prime fish bringing a prime $$..

Keith

i know but some of the slow learners thinks there is.

That's the entertaining part... As you read back through this thread you can see the Naysayers coming around. They're beginning to realize what this is going to turn into. I even think Leadhead is starting to get it too.....

Keith

Any thing can be said in here the internet, but in the real world science will prevail, and that isn’t good for the 40%ers ----gill nets.

in the real world the release mortality rate doesnt matter what matters is the actual amount of esa listed fish that are killed.

Boater you stopped in the middle of the equation. Are you OK?
I still understand what you are saying.

Boater you haven’t shown any scientific basis supporting your support of gill nets hence Da Bogeyman Theories. Where is your science?

It doesn't take a fisheries degree, or a mathematics degree, to know that 2% of the run being killed in the non-tribal fisheries is 2% of the run, no matter how they are killed...just as it doesn't take any advanced degrees to math out that if the commercial guys catch more hatchery fish, we will catch less.

Fish on...

Todd

sofa king

i have no use for gillnets but i have less use for a more selective commercial fishery taking more fish than they do now.

How does that work again..........

But in reality it's cool. Sportsman concede on behalf of a group that thinks they know what is best. Sportsman keep conceding and conceding and I've yet to see our mortality rates drop to allow us more of the ESA take/hatchery fish.... That's the battle to fight and carry forward with... Not one freely giving up our hatchery fish....

For those of you out of the area that rarely fish the Columbia it's easy to follow along and agree with what they're doing but digging in a little exposes an almighty [censored] plan......

Keith

Same thing is going on country wide, for instance the idea that if the government spends more money this will somehow reduce the national debt. If the fish and wildlife depts. give the commercials more hatchery fish it will give the sports more fish. What kind of logic is this? The ones who believe this are easy to tell, they keep repeating the same old slogans like eating elephants and getting hatchery fish off the spawning grounds. When you try to tell them that those "nasty" hatchery fish are the ones that they can keep, and most of them are stopped by weirs at the hatcheries, it goes right over their heads. These alternative methods being tested were outlawed THANKS to the gillnetters because they could not compete with them. If a gillnet can`t catch a fish above a seining operation, what chance do you think you`ll have with a cut plug and a rod? Bill

Hey, Bill long time no see. Give up on the other board?
More DA BOGEY MAN THEORY.

Some people eat elephant and some people eat crow. What is your choice?

So you are voting for alt.2 on hatchery DEIS to cut about 1/2 of the hatchery fish?

Hi LL, no i didn`t give up anywhere. Lately I prefer fresh tuna to elephant and crow. Getting near the point where I`ll switch from surf to turf. Fresh heart is sounding real good. Cutting hatchery production at this time would be a big mistake for WDFW. Too many fishermen have already given up due to regulations and lack of fish. This may spiral out of control if we`re only left with natives to fish for, there`s not many of them even with all the regulations designed to protect them. Here`s your boogey man, if hatchery production is eliminated, 95% of us will no longer fish, take that to your budget meeting WDFW/ODFW. Bill

I haven't read anywhere that hatchery production will be eliminated and I hope you haven't seen that either.

With all the DA Bogeyman gloom and doom. Just hang in there like the rest of us.

I think there is going to be some pleasantly surprised fishermen around here when everything is said and done.

i`d like to know what your smoking ??

I agree. This thread has rambled on from alternative gear to what you are smoking.

It would appear this selective harvest as a means for recovery idea is faith based.
Unless you contribute, or attend the meetings, you don't get to smoke the good sh1t.

i bet you cant explain why anglers are going to be pleasantly surprised because they wont be.

Has anyone seen any stats on how they did with the test selective fishing this year?

Keith