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#63881 - 11/19/01 07:41 AM Two Rods Regulation Proposal
Mike C Offline


Registered: 04/05/01
Posts: 1373
Loc: Redmond
I read that WDFDW is considering allowing freshwater anglers to use two poles if the angler buys a second license. I'm wondering what everyone thinks of that? Several years ago we were allowed to use two rods in saltwater. But we didn't have to buy a second license. I liked being able to use the second rod. I don't remember catching more limits, though. rolleyes I don't know if I would pay for a second rod. What about you?
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#63882 - 11/19/01 12:27 PM Re: Two Rods Regulation Proposal
Old Man Offline
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Registered: 05/02/01
Posts: 762
Loc: Silver Star,Mt
I know I wouldn't pay for a second license just to fish with 2 poles. I think it would be kind of hard to try to fish with 2 fly rods at one time when you need both hands to fish with one. I know thats not what they mean. It's to use two rods in a boat or if you are shore fishing. I never keep any of the fish that I catch. So two license's for me would be a waste of money. One is enough. Jim S cool
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#63883 - 11/19/01 01:44 PM Re: Two Rods Regulation Proposal
Zen Leecher aka Bill W Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 972
Loc: Moses Lake
I've fished two rods up in BC on a couple of trips and eventually went back to one rod. It always seemed it was the other rod that got the hit and if your line's not straight then you won't get a hookup fishing chronies.. just see the indicator go down and back up before you can switch rods.

My hookups increased by only fishing one rod.

Now up there they only allow one fly on the line, not droppers like down here in WA.
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#63884 - 11/19/01 06:11 PM Re: Two Rods Regulation Proposal
Chromeo Offline
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Registered: 10/29/01
Posts: 550
Loc: Kenmore, WA
Think of it this way. For all of us river fisherman we could plunk with one rod then use spinners or drift with the other one. Trolling 2 rods=twice the hook-ups. Trout fishing one pole w/ power bait and one fly rod. I will buy a second licence. i've fished in cali with 2 rods and sometimes you can barley keep one in. You can be very versatile with 2 rods. there are endless posibilities.
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#63885 - 11/20/01 11:01 AM Re: Two Rods Regulation Proposal
Eddie L Offline
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Registered: 02/08/00
Posts: 170
Loc: Seattle,Wa
Just imagine on openning day on the lakes fishing piers if they all had 2 license and each had 2 rods,bad enough with 1 rod at some lakes. I could agree on 2 rods from a boat but, bank fishing with 2 rods on some lakes and rivers can create some problems.It has it's good and bad on this issue.(Picture this -- everyone fishing Blue Creek with 2 rods). eek

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#63886 - 11/20/01 11:30 AM Re: Two Rods Regulation Proposal
Matt Pouley Offline
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Registered: 11/19/01
Posts: 3
Loc: Arlington WA
Hello ALl,

Been a while sence I posted here.... And my old account doesn't work!! SO NOW I AM A STUPID SMOLT AGAIN.... ARRRGGGGGHHHH... There goes my over 50 posts aye!!!

Anyhow to the topik.

I don't really see why it should matter if you run 2 poles. Anyone who wants to pay twice as much should be able to use twice the gear it is as simple as that. I myself will not take part in this, I think the currant lisence price is just dandy!!! (my first year buying an adult lisence). I can see a few minor problems arising like one siad on my forum, COMBAT FISHING, Imagine all the people out on some packed waters with twice as many lines to tangle!! So in many ways I am for it. But I myself could not see the use in 2 rods. Salmon fishing in the sound or trout fishing down at the net pens on Rufus Woods lake, I couldn't handle a double header myself!!! (Trout at Rufus Woods are often over 15 lbs and have been over 20, I've caught over 10+).

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#63887 - 11/20/01 02:16 PM Re: Two Rods Regulation Proposal
Old Man Offline
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Registered: 05/02/01
Posts: 762
Loc: Silver Star,Mt
Hey Zen. I was reading your post and I have to comment on one thing. The use of droppers. The "regs" state that on fly fishing only waters The use of a single barbless hook. No where does it allow you to use a dropper. I would like to know where that came from. I use a dropper sometimes in rivers, but if it is illegal, I will stop using it. Jim S cool
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#63888 - 11/20/01 03:56 PM Re: Two Rods Regulation Proposal
Easy Limits Offline
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Registered: 05/06/01
Posts: 2959
Loc: Nisqually
I think you should be able to use two poles only from a boat. Most fisherman, I have noticed, do not have enough coordination to handle two poles let alone one.
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#63889 - 11/20/01 09:23 PM Re: Two Rods Regulation Proposal
Eddie L Offline
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Registered: 02/08/00
Posts: 170
Loc: Seattle,Wa
I can picture our Elliot Bay Salmon fishing with a boat of a party of 4 guys,running 4 rods off 2 downriggers and 4 rods off 2 Planer Boards (mostly used on the east coast and great lakes) which can reach close to 100 feet on each side of the boat.

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#63890 - 11/20/01 10:16 PM Re: Two Rods Regulation Proposal
Fishboy5 Offline
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Registered: 11/14/01
Posts: 65
Loc: Battle Ground, WA
Two rods is ghetto. some places would be so packed that you would not be able to find a place to fish. if it was proposed to buy a license for a second pole, what about kids, they don't have to pay. Can you imagine a family of dad, grandpa, and four kids fishing at once? that's TWELVE poles, and these kind of family fishing excursions are not really uncommon on a lot of lakes and rivers. There should not be two poles per person.

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#63891 - 11/20/01 10:54 PM Re: Two Rods Regulation Proposal
JimSa Offline
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Registered: 11/30/00
Posts: 20
Loc: Bellevue, WA, USA
I'll duplicate my post here that I made on Matt's forum:

I think they should completely reverse the proposal. Two rods in the salt and only one in the fresh. That makes much more sense as there is 100 times less pressure on the salt. Likewise if you're just trolling you're not messing anyone up but yourself if you have too many lines out.

I rarely fail to get my limit when I fish the salt, be it bouy 10, neah bay, seiku, the puget sound etc. I don't see two rods increasing the catch by all that much. Two rods just gives me more freedom to experiment. It's kind of like when you go out to eat. Quite often you find yourself getting something that you know is good and you take a chance on something that could be even better. I'd have a lot more fun if I could apply the tried and true technique on one pole and play Mad Doctor on the other. I get excited just thinking about all the gear I could be switching up on...

Sigh... Unfortunately the proposal is for the fresh. I'm against it unless they want to limit it to fishing from a boat. The logic being that you're less likely to ruin it for others. I suppose it could be a problem for those that fish the hog lines, but you usually have the option of not joining the line.

-Jim

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#63892 - 11/20/01 11:18 PM Re: Two Rods Regulation Proposal
Matt Pouley Offline
Egg

Registered: 11/19/01
Posts: 3
Loc: Arlington WA
FISHNOY5,


I agree with you that it is "ghetto" in some respects but I can also see it working some times too.


TO get to my point if I read the rule perposal correctly.... The law would not be allowed to apply to kids under the age of 16. If you buy a youth License or don't buy one at all you can not use 2 rods, simply put. It is for "adults only" I suppose you could say. Remember people it is only a perposal, not a law yet. (chances are it will pass though frown )

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#63893 - 11/20/01 11:20 PM Re: Two Rods Regulation Proposal
Matt Pouley Offline
Egg

Registered: 11/19/01
Posts: 3
Loc: Arlington WA
Sorry bout that last post... not Fishon5


Fishboy5


Sorry man, not trying to offend anyone... Typo!

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#63894 - 11/21/01 03:15 AM Re: Two Rods Regulation Proposal
bigb8bigfish Offline
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Registered: 03/10/01
Posts: 300
Loc: seattle,wa
guess it depends upon everyones style of fishing. Salt water, its the old fashioned mooching, on rivers I do a lot of drifting or bobber fishing, and on lakes after quite a few beers, don't think I could keep my attention to only one set up. NOW if I bought a second license so I could double my daily catch............. laugh laugh laugh

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#63895 - 11/21/01 11:41 AM Re: Two Rods Regulation Proposal
Mike C Offline


Registered: 04/05/01
Posts: 1373
Loc: Redmond
I can envision the insanity of the Pine Lake fishing Pier on Opening Day with all those extra rods - glad I have a boat. I agree with JimSa that for us saltwater trollers it would be great. I remember years ago being allowed two rods and fishing Jeff Head, being able to target two different depths, use diferenet gear, it was great. I could see this reg being useful for trolling lakers on Chelan, trout on Lake Wash, etc, but as far as still fishing, it could for sure get hairy some places. I don't know if I would actually fork out a second license fee though. Number one, I'm too cheap smile , number two, with two kids that's three rods and that's more than enough to keep track of, sometimes too much. rolleyes
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#63896 - 11/27/01 01:34 AM Re: Two Rods Regulation Proposal
Metalhead Mojo Offline
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Registered: 11/26/01
Posts: 550
Loc: Browns Point
You can get a "second rod" stamp for your license in Arizona for only $4.00...if you're trolling then its great, or still fishing too, depends on how you go after the fish of course.
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#63897 - 11/27/01 01:44 AM Re: Two Rods Regulation Proposal
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Registered: 04/25/00
Posts: 5005
Loc: East of Aberdeen, West of Mont...
Hello:

Love the idea, think it should just be "allowed". Many other states have the 2 rods with 1 license. I fish out of a small jet boat, lot's of the time by myself, would love to be able to fish 2 plugs, different colors. What the heck, 2 rods to get your fish.....how's that compare to "gillnets", that can get 100's, and the license sure doesn't cost double.

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#63898 - 11/27/01 02:06 PM Re: Two Rods Regulation Proposal
Zen Leecher aka Bill W Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 972
Loc: Moses Lake
Back in PA where I got my start I remember at times fishing with two rods and one handline. Each had three baited hooks.
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#63899 - 11/27/01 02:34 PM Re: Two Rods Regulation Proposal
Trout Master Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 394
Loc: Edmonds
I see you were a baiter at one time also. shocked
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#63900 - 11/27/01 03:05 PM Re: Two Rods Regulation Proposal
Zen Leecher aka Bill W Offline
Spawner

Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 972
Loc: Moses Lake
I used to gather them in the dark at golf courses.

I still do from time to time if I'm going to places like Sprague Lake.
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#63901 - 11/28/01 12:43 PM Re: Two Rods Regulation Proposal
Banock Offline
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Registered: 11/24/01
Posts: 59
Loc: Oakville, Wa.
Concerning the two pole regulation, I can see it would be helpful if you are in a boat and trying to find out what the fish are biting on. I would use it for that purpose and then go back to one pole for catching. No matter what you would still be allowed only one catch limit. But I will not pay for an extra license jusy for the option to use two poles, plus it would be an enforcement nightmare.
Just for the record, I am a trout fisherman and mostly use worms or power bait.
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