toff, define fly fishing then? Cause I fairly sure I could rig a gear rod and fly fish with it. so is it no longer considered gear fishing then?
like I said, call it what ever you feel like at the end of the day so you're happy

No worries at all
I think the main message has been covered that beads kick ass no matter what you wana call fishing them

Can anyone explain to me how can a guy that sells tackle to people on this board can be such an amazing douchebag to people to who might buy tackle from him?

Who's being a douche Vic? This is just a discussion of bead fishing for steelhead and how it's like fly fishing and how it's different. Most of us are friends here. I have hooks from Todd that I use for fly fishing and some I use on my salmon fishing tackle. Really isn't much to explain.

Sg

Next fall....It's on.

I may have been the douche who said it, I am not the only one who's thinking it.

Of those that have chimed in, you may well be.



I think you misread something.

This thread just added "hilarious" to the list of other attributes it has...

I think it's pretty clear who the "douche" is, and it's the guy who hasn't even participated in the what up until now has been an interesting and entertaining thread...

Carry on.

Fish on...

Todd

P.S. Every person that is in this conversation is already a customer of mine in some way, and I'm pretty sure this conversation won't change that one bit, except that some of them may need to stock up on #2 octopus hooks from me to get their bead fishing tackle in order!

Vic,

I beg to differ. This thread was all cool with everyone here, but you. What makes you think other readers are on your side of the street? Even KK isn't outside the loop on this one, and he usually tries to be, just because of a goat, or somethin'.

Sg

Hey Todd, is that #2 or #4? Probably the larger in BC now that I think about it. I thought it is generally a smaller hook thing, but that will have to be the next couple of pages when Coley covers rigging . . .

Sg

He can talk bead rigging like nobody's business...he's a master. Our #2's are plenty small...quite a few of the beaders ended up with them on their lines up in BC, and were quite pleased with the results.

Hey, I'll be in Oly for the SCAPG meeting tomorrow, agenda says I'll be done about 4pm...want to grab a beer before I head out of town?

Fish on...

Todd

For steel, #4 in Owner or Gami. I think Todd's #2's are just a bit bigger? Use the smallest hook you can get away with. The bigger the hook, the more it hampers the beads natural action.

Go bead fishing with KK, and he'll probably show up wearing a gag ball and carrying a Batman lunch box loaded with anal beads.

Fish on...

Todd

Toff's #2s were awesome on the Methow, only fish we lost were client error..... Sh!t, that fish is jumping with beads in its face and your line is limp...... saw that a few times but the hooks still stuck
Alogn the lines of what Coley said, the smaller hooks give more natural drift and better penetration.

Our #2's are a bit bigger than a Gami #4, and a bit smaller than a Gami #2, and being pretty fine wire, they seem to fish the beads pretty well.

But what do I know...I'm just a douche

Fish on...

Todd

Finally, something we can all agree on here

Yeah Todd-douche, give me a call cuz I'm not much of a clock watcher. I'll try and remember to set my desk clock for 4. I was gonna' comment on KK's "beads are for hippies" statement, but after your KK and bead remark, I can't bring myself to say anything. I'd buy some more of your hooks Todd, but I have this box of salvaged hooks that I picked up on the rivers, mostly summer fishing on the Cowlitz. Some good brands in the mix, still sharp as can be. I try to stop picking up gear, but can't stop myself, even tho I have no use for 500 corkies.

Fishtale, or do you prefer somewhere else?

Sg

Deal, KK...hell, I've been trying to get rid of you as a fishing partner for years, if I knew that's all it would take, I would have mentioned your gag ball a long time ago

Steve, Fishtale is fine...I'll call you when the meetings are over...I don't know if Curt is keeping tabs on this fine thread or not, but I'll invite him along, too, if he's willing...he's got a pretty good drive home after the meeting, though.

Fish on...

Todd

Apparently I'm confused. I thought flyfishing was define merely as casting by using the energy of the line to propel a lure forward. Nothing more, nothing less.

So are you saying that I'm flyfishing when I'm flicking out baitfish patterns but once I switch to a Clouser then I'm not? ...or is it only when tie my Clouser on a jig hook (as I often do) that I am no longer flyfishing? So when I'm shooting a floater 3 quarters down current and swinging or stripping in then I'm flyfishing but if I cast 1/4 upstream and mend like crazy to change my presentation to a dead drift then I'm not flyfishing? If I suspend my weighted fly using a floating line that is fly fishing but once I add a indicator I'm not?

"You are a dirty-ass nympher..."