#492367 - 03/02/09 11:33 PM
Re: Obama gun ban process is starting.
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 03/17/05
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But they vote the D ticket....or whatever to rep says to vote,"Work First".
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#492387 - 03/03/09 12:23 AM
Re: Obama gun ban process is starting.
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Poodle Smolt
Registered: 05/03/01
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Dropped off the guns from the DU auction, and wouldn't you know it, they only had one AR-15 lower left. When I left they had none.
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#492455 - 03/03/09 09:43 AM
Re: Obama gun ban process is starting.
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 09/27/06
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......It's all part of the stimulus plan........
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#492476 - 03/03/09 01:47 PM
Re: Obama gun ban process is starting.
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Spawner
Registered: 01/30/09
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Dropped off the guns from the DU auction, and wouldn't you know it, they only had one AR-15 lower left. When I left they had none. are you trying to replenish your stock since you lost all of your guns in a boating accident?
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#492489 - 03/03/09 02:09 PM
Re: Obama gun ban process is starting.
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
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I would think the ammo shortage is due to the wars or Mehico.
(CBS) Mexico's police are overwhelmed in part because drug traffickers have them outgunned. Mexico's Attorney General Eduardo Medina-Mora is helping lead the effort to break up the cartels.
"Half of what we seize, 55 percent are assault rifles. And this is what gives these groups this intimidation power. Over 17,000 assault rifles, throughout the last two years. Two thousand and 200 grenades, missile and rocket launchers. Fifty caliber sniper rifles," the attorney general explained.
It might surprise you to learn where all these guns are coming from. It turns out 90 percent of them are purchased in the US.
"The Second Amendment was never designed to arm criminal groups, and especially not foreign criminal groups as it is today," Medina-Mora said.
Asked if he blames the U.S. for not doing more to stop this flow, he told Cooper, "We believe that much more needs to be done. We need a much more committed effort from the U.S."
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#492495 - 03/03/09 02:27 PM
Re: Obama gun ban process is starting.
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 08/12/05
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Ammo....I cannot find 7.62x39. (anyone?) It's getting tough to find .357 . It's all being bought up.
About the only caliber I've seen full shelves of is .40
Your day to day "workhorse war rounds" are disappearing with the only exception being the all-american 5.56
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#492514 - 03/03/09 03:22 PM
Re: Obama gun ban process is starting.
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Spawner
Registered: 10/26/02
Posts: 908
Loc: Idaho
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Stlfuk and Todd,
I keep hearing about how our rights were taken away in the last 8 years, but when I asked stlfuk a couple of times on a thread a little while ago there was no response.
So I'll ask again, what actual rights did you have taken away or trampled on because of the repugnicans in the last 8 years?
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#492531 - 03/03/09 03:52 PM
Re: Obama gun ban process is starting.
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Spawner
Registered: 01/30/09
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"The Second Amendment was never designed to arm criminal groups, and especially not foreign criminal groups as it is today," Medina-Mora said.
it doesnt....
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#492548 - 03/03/09 04:47 PM
Re: Obama gun ban process is starting.
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
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WRscofflaw, good timing for a pud.
"In a speech Monday, Obama's attorney general, Eric Holder said that too often in the past decade the fight against terrorism has been put in opposition to "our tradition of civil liberties."
That "has done us more harm than good," he declared. "I've often said that the test of a great nation is whether it will adhere to its core values not only when it is easy but when it is hard."
Where do you want to start? Warrantless wiretapping? Indefinite detention without a trial? How about the Patriot act authorizing searches of your home without telling you? Which amendments should we start with? The first and the fourth? Bush had the DOJ determine he could legally restrict freedom of speech and freedom of the press under the guise of terrorism. Take a drive on the Olympic Penninsula and maybe you'll run into one of the Border Patrol checkpoints miles from any border. It's not the second amendment so why are you concerned and why now? Should have been awake years ago.
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#492577 - 03/03/09 05:37 PM
Re: Obama gun ban process is starting.
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Spawner
Registered: 01/30/09
Posts: 849
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It's not the second amendment so why are you concerned and why now? Should have been awake years ago. I was against that crap and never defended Bush's trampling on the Constitution and I'm JUST as against Obama doing it. It would appear the jokesters here are not. Funny how you all want to blame Bush and excuse Obama, huh? that is exactly what i was thinking
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#492586 - 03/03/09 05:46 PM
Re: Obama gun ban process is starting.
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Spawner
Registered: 10/26/02
Posts: 908
Loc: Idaho
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Sthlfuk,
You still missed my point.. None of those things affect you. I asked how your personal freedoms were affected.
Here are a list of mine Demosocialists have taken away or are working on..
Right to lift my truck and put any aftermarket parts on it.
Right to fire an employee for any damn reason I chose (run the risk or percieved discrimination)
Right to buy my kid a small ATV (have lead in them, deadly in CA)
Right to buy a Brand new 3 wheeler
New bill to GPS's in cars to tax mileage
Right to smoke in a bar where everyone smokes (hell the owner smokes)
Right to a highcap mag for any of my semi auto guns
Currently moves in place to reanact the fairness doctrine (a direct affront to free speach and business freedom)
So let me get this straight, they falsely detained you, tapped your phone, and wouldn't let you fairly report on the war.. Your shittin me right. I asked what freedoms you ( personally, not percieved) have lost. I've lost some and have quite a few more on the chopping block.
BTW, Obivously having an armed populace is not a percieved threat to any of our enemys.
Admiral Yamamoto famously said "You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a man with a rifle behind every blade of grass."
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#492594 - 03/03/09 05:56 PM
Re: Obama gun ban process is starting.
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MPD
Registered: 01/02/08
Posts: 2544
Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
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Admiral Yamamoto famously said "You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a man with a rifle behind every blade of grass."
someone has mowed your lawn a little too short.
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#492608 - 03/03/09 06:06 PM
Re: Obama gun ban process is starting.
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
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"None of those things affect you"
Applies to about 80% of what you listed. Hasn't effected you has it?
Wow....what a warped sense of thinking. So losing my right to having a phone conversation without being eavesdropped upon doesn't effect me? Losing my right to having my house locked up and knowing the Govt can't enter and search it without my knowledge doesn't effect me? Losing my right to travel freely within our borders without running into Fed Govt checkpoints doesn't effect me? I have to actually be detained indefinitely without trial in order to have lost my right against that?
So in your warped world, if you have no intention of purchasing another firearm and the right to purchase a firearm is taken away then you really didn't lose anything right? Doesn't effect you right?
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#492610 - 03/03/09 06:08 PM
Re: Obama gun ban process is starting.
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MPD
Registered: 01/02/08
Posts: 2544
Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
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Stlhead- you've totally missed the thought process here - "my dad can beat up your dad."
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#492613 - 03/03/09 06:11 PM
Re: Obama gun ban process is starting.
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
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Yeah but what about yo momma?
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