Awesome! I knew it was Bush's fault.

Thanks for the chuckle.

Yeah it was settled. 95% of the 10,000+ accepted. So there's still 5,000 plus out there.

The Zadroga bill
"bars ailing responders from double-dipping on payouts from the recent 9/11 health settlement."

So BD what's your problem with it besides a general accusation of greed?
I wouldn't accept $3,200 if I saw my buddies coming down with ailments.
Did you want Corps to continue to have an off shore tax haven?

First, people are compensated by severity of ailment. Some show no effectsat this time, but want large payouts in case they get sick years later. I want first responders appropriately compensated, but the original bill had no safeguards for fraud or attorneys getting rich off the lawsuits. My main objection was lack of safeguards, many were fixed in the recent rewrite, and the riders, weighing this bill down with unnecessary pork.

From NBC news.

"In 1998, President Clinton announced, “We will use all the means at our disposal to bring those responsible to justice, no matter what or how long it takes.”

NBC News has obtained, exclusively, extraordinary secret video, shot by the U.S. government. It illustrates an enormous opportunity the Clinton administration had to kill or capture bin Laden. Critics call it a missed opportunity.

The tape proves the Clinton administration was aggressively tracking al-Qaida a year before 9/11. But that also raises one enormous question: If the U.S. government had bin Laden and the camps in its sights in real time, why was no action taken against them?"

More than one person to blame.

A few more folks

From Slate.

"Now it's time to note that a similar set of documents shows that Reagan also played a major role in bringing on the terrorist war that followed—specifically, in abetting the rise of Osama Bin Laden.

(Jimmy Carter and his national security adviser, Zbigniew Brzezinski, had started assisting the resistance, but with not nearly the same largess or ambition.)"

Everybody had a hand in this pile of crap. Looks like Jimmy Carter actually started it.

From what I read victims must file claims for loss which means there must be proof. You can't file a claim because you might get sick later. However, there will be monitoring and health coverage in case you do get sick.

What I can't find yet, now that the Reps have got their hands on it, is exactly how it's now going to be paid for. I'm betting the off shore tax haven will be intact after all is said and done which is a rip off of the tax payer.

I agree in their right to ask for settlement, I just don't think they necessarily should be winning any large lottery settlment. Again, while I've heard that they pared back the bill from the original offering, so that it actually gets things done and doesn't line too many pockets, I haven't seen the bill as amended.

If that smiling peanut farmer hadn't started the whole issue by funding Bin Laden's guys, or if Clinton would have taken Osama out after the Cole bombing or the embassy bombing, we wouldn't be talking about this mess either.

So in your vien of thought, going back to the beginning, and who is to blame, every president beginning with Jimmy Carter played a role in 9/11. I figured you implicating Bush took care of dad and son, and Reagan played a significant part too. I didn't find information going back further than that, but I am completely willing to throw Nixon and Ford under the bus if they shared some blame as well. LBJ and JFK are open targets for me as well.

I don't understand why you insist on only highlighting the failure of republicans when there is equal or larger blame to be shouldered by democrats. I must be that your loyalty to a single partyy clouds your judgement. Me, I think they are all assholes, not worthy of my trust or admiration.

Or had the Government been honest and forthright in regards to the actual dangers, first responders could have used respirators and other appropriate breathing apparatus during the recovery operations.

I believe that they should have worn protective gear. Why anyone in their right mind wouldn't do so, regardless of what anybody says, even the .GOV., I don't understand.

Now the folks who were there immediately after the towers came down, I can understand an urgency to act, and maybe they would forget their gear in case they could save just one more life by acting quickly, but as the efforts continued, I don't see why there wasn't gear on site.

Kk, your an idiot! The first responders had respirators, and SCBA's. The chose not to wear them out of stress, being tired, worrying about others more than themselves, not caring at the time, not thinking about the consequences etc. Common sense tells you not to breathe all that dust in, even if you thought it was just "dirt". While I'm not blaming the first responders, nobody had to lie to them. Go back to huffing bug spray with your armadillo hat.

Is that all you've got pansy ass? Picking on my iphones spell check, which always seems to change you're to your? You can't even stay on topic, or add anymore to the conversation? Your goats deserve better...

ITG alert!!

First responders include police whom I'm quite positive did not have respirators.

About the EPA being coerced you can start your research here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Stat...ion_controversy

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So you folks are saying you shouldn't trust what .GOV says? That's my line.

You can click on the OOIG report which is in PDF format on that link and go from there. If you notice it is a .GOV link.

First, most police officers have respirators in the trunk of their cars, let me qualify that by saying all the hazmat drills I've ever done, there were always respirators or masks in the cars.

He said/she said on Wikipedia is hardly proof. Point is, everybody knew breathing the dust must be harmful in some way, but they did it anyway. Nobody made or decieved anyone into not wearing appropriate gear.

Most would not be all would it? I highly doubt every NYC police responder had access to a respirator during 9/11. Prove otherwise.

Here's the link for the reading impaired:

http://www.epa.gov/oig/reports/2003/WTC_report_20030821.pdf

I suppose the next argument is the Inspector General is a liar.

I'm not doubting the report from the EPA from 2003. I'm not doubting that there may have been mis-statements as to the health of the air, but for god's sake, knowing that the dust contained essentially pulverized remains of the 2,700 or so folks who perished. How on earth could that be safe?

I'm actually just poking fun at you guys for sounding like some right wing/libertarian conspiracty theorists.

This is why many folks like me mistrust the word of .GOV. Analyze and verify. Don't take their bait.

Present.

From what I have heard several are sick enough that they can no longer work, there fore they loose their insurance.