just outa curiousity has anyone passed a kidney stone? if so was it easy? painless? enjoyable? conversation starter?

They say the pain is the equivalent of a man giving birth. <yuck face>

Mf

oh man. My buddy's dad had two of them and they came out back to back. He said other than the death of a loved one or the sight of his newborn child, it's the only thing that will make a grown man cry. He saved them and showed us.

i had gall stones. a broken ankle didn't hurt as bad

Honestly, seeing patients with them pretty often, one told me to drink lots of water and just lightly jump up and down when the pain is bad, coming down hard on your heels. This allows the hydraulic force of the water to push the stone down. The pain is backed up urine swelling urethra. When I had one I tried it and it worked very well.

http://ezinearticles.com/?Natural-Kidney-Stone-Removal&id=1119649

Brought me to the ground like I got punched when it hit. The morphine was pretty fun.

I have passed 2. Like a really bad tooth ache deep inside that feels like it should get better with curling up into a fetal position but just doesn't get better.

Also, I have taken care of literally hundreds of patients with stones at this point in my career. Fortunately, they usually respond well in the ED to IV fluids and enough narcotic meds IV. Then they either pass "on their own" with plenty of fluids and oral pain meds, or if they are bigger than 6mm the urologist goes in through the willie (not the boat type) and blasts them into smaller pieces or retrieves it directly.

Reader's digest version.

Ouch!

Oh no, not the Willie !
Yeeeeouch !

being a full blown man i'm powering through this passage with the manly oral narcotic.... whiskey!

and yes it trully feels like several kidney puches delivered by iron mike tyson.

There's an idea.
Have you tried suction ?

Alcohol will dehydrate you and prolong your stone issues

Take 2 shots then lay your willy on a good hard surface and whack it 8 times with a framing hammer..

I've passed 2, first was in 2007, Friday afternoon I started feeling pain in my back that wasn't bad at 1st, by about 6pm I was rolling around on the floor in agony and my wife insisted on a trip to the ER. Sat in the ER for almost 2 hours before I finally got to see a doc who diagnosed the stone and said there was another 1 in the other kidney. After getting some really good pain meds I went home and decided not to cancel a Kalama trip I had planned for the following morning. I was fine and even caught a springer out of the 1st hole, about noon things went to hell, the pain med made me sick so not only was I in pain but I was puking my guts out and this is at the Beginners Hole, still had to row down to Modrow which sucked big time. That stone took me 8 days to pass, some days were pain free, others, not so much. On the 6th day I had to fly to Alaska, passed the stone on the morning of the 8th day, right before my guests got on the boat, huge relief.
Second stone was a year ago and I was woke up about 2 in the morning and knew exactly what it was, rolled around on the living room floor in agony for 3 hours then passed that stone. The 2nd stone hurt worse but only lasted 3 hours, If I ever have another 1 I want the 3 hour stone.
Good luck!

If you are doing it DIY be sure t drink a ton of water. It will help dilate up the ureters and float that thing down the pipe. If it is working the pain will go lower and lower and then disappear, followed a day or so later by pain in little willie as it enters the toilet.

Sincere condolences and best luck.

I haven't been fortunate to deal with kidney stones yet. If it's anything like having a full blown gallbladder attack I think I'd rather jump off a 20ft bridge with nothing but rocks at the bottom. I can't even begin to describe the pain and wouldn't even wish it on my worst enemy... Well maybe...

Get through it Brewer, time is your worst enemy!

Keith

so far the nothing but whiskey/beer for meds has worked well. feel the discomfort moving lower. hopefully the stone will be completely passed by this evening.

If you have good insurance...you have them blasted with Ultrasound...or so I've heard

I had good insurance and a 4mm stone, doc sent me home with pain meds, said if it was either 4.5 or 5 mm, don't remember which, they could zap it, until then, suck it up and be a man, 8 days later I passed it, Son of a .............!

Maybe the Brewer could engineer a "marriage of convenience" ?

I'm a stone factory.
I've passed eight and had five large ones blown up via three lithotipsy procedure. The last lithotripsy was two weeks ago.
I felt like I was pissing spawning gravel afterward. By far the most painful physical ailment I've gone through.

DAMN ! !Time to change the diet maybe ? ? !! ? ?

Mine was 5mm(3/16) x 10mm(3/8) and the pain will take you to the floor. Tried the water hydro thing-- couldn't find it. Finally on the 3rd hospital trip did the laser thing--- only one way in for the laser and that is through a small natural hole in the body.

there was a sinefeld episode where krammer had a stone... it passed in a public restroom... very funny.

At the circus .. .... . .

I definately have the right last name, Stone. My dad suffered from kidney stones as well and I'm the spitting image of him.
All I can say about kidney stones is....thank god for dilaudid!

It was at Yankee Stadium.

I'm just thankful for my boringly fairly good health.

Sg

My faith in Jeezis will protect me from kidney stones.

still ailing, the pain is much lower now. hoping this gravel falls out soon.

Had one 5-6 years ago,painfull as hell and a scary ride in the aid car @ 4:00 am.I didn't know what was happening,I thought I was gonna die and so did the wife.The pain mellowed shortly after arriving @ the hospital.They shot me up and gave me a bottle of vics for the road, game over.Hit bouy-10 for the annual 8 day vaca two day's later like nothin had happened.Good luck,
SZ

The killer is when you see how small the damned is.

marsha delivers a facial over bait dunker!!! (que in the marv albert voice)

Coming from the Ron Jeremy of Harstine island

He's like that paste-eating dipsh!t from 1st grade that sat in the back of the room before they placed him in special-ed, where he belonged.

Dang SF. You're the King of Kidney Stones now.

I haven't had the pleasure yet. If I'm fortunate, I'll not have to deal with them. On the other hand, I find that I'm dealing with other health issues right now.... Joy's of getting older.

Took 3 weeks for them to deal with mine. The laser deal was a trip. I'm half awake looking at a sheet at about belly level and I hear the Doc tell one of the nurses to "Grab ahold of his penis and don't let it go". The epidural/spinal block deal kept me from enjoying the touching. I could feel the laser bursts in my head in 3's.

Any sage words from you veterans on avoiding pushing a marble through a straw?

(queue Doctor Rick?)

Sounds similar to my first kidney stone ER visit. I just wish the nurse had gotten the shot into my arm on the first attempt, not her own hand.

I guess I shouldn't complain. My urologist said she removed 20+mm stone surgically from a guy a few years ago. Damn boulder.

One key thing is to drink plenty of fluids so that the ureters, and eventually the urethra, can fill frequently to their maximum diameter which is, hopefully, bigger than the stone, and allows the stone to float down the pipe.

Unfortunately, that means lots of bumping and scraping while floating, which is kinda like riding down the river in my boat.

The fact that Brewer is feeling the stone move is a good sign so far. And he's not the first or last person to self medicate with beer.

Dr. Rick, that sounds like a semi endorsement of beer to relieve pain.

The only medication I have had that made me want it again was Verced (sp?). Everything else made me feel like crap. I had back surgery last May. I had them take me off the pain meds a few hours after waking up, as the meds made me feel so bad. The next day I got out (early because I was off the pain meds) and after the drive from Kirkland to Post Falls I got in my chair, looked at the bottle full of pain meds and told my wife to throw them away and get me a beer. A few kokanees and I was much better.

Stick with the plan Brewer. Sounds like your strategy is working. I have not experienced the pleasure of a kidney stone yet, but I have seen others, so I hope your just drinking beer for fun soon.

All man..............half animal.

Hey Doc.....isn't there something that they give women to dilate their junk ? (just tryin' to help, Brewer )
Hmmm....would that make him a tranny ?

I'm thinkin' lots of cheap beer* and a good jog down around the bowling alley.

*Just in case you start pukin'....no sense in wasting good IPA

So, there's my moral support and one last thing.....
Pics or it didn't happen

my wife tried to feed me some bull yesturday. saying that the reason i have a kidney stone is because of alchohol.... i looked at her with a straight face and said. "you better get me another 16 ounce (keystone)before the achohol gives you a black eye"...

Don't get her p!ssed off now.
You might want to try the aforementioned "suction option".

The STAMinal ..........guess I won't ever go to Yak-town since it gives a guy the stones

I too am a fetal position club member. Lasted one night and passed it with the help of "Dilaudid" , great stuff and I have had lots of different types.4.5 mm and I bow to those that have gone bigger.Rolling that big a ball down the gutter is one memory you won't forget soon...

Changed the diet and lost the diet pepsi, now I drink more water and lots more beer!

Good luck with the beer therapy!

Fishy

PS. Stam does in fact appear to the "The Man"

I'm not sayin", I'm just sayin" that folks self medicate. I think the trick is to know when enough self medication is enough, and another intervention is needed. Prolly best to listen to the women and chillen just about then, cause they will be right.

More water, Brewer!!

DD, I think you are thinking diuretics, and they don't help in this case. Part of the problem is dehydration and diuretics worsen that.

Drink, Brewer, Drink (Water!)

Brewer, give me a call if you think best.
You have my number.

bwp, i'm not dumb by any means. i've delt with pain management for many years. won't go into it all. but will say that when i'm ready to pussout, yea i'll go see a doc. untill then i'll qoute bush sr. "stay the course" and man up. i'm not a very big guy, i just have stam's tolerance.

"stay the course" and man up. i'm not a very big guy"



On this thread it could mean about anything Aunty

Now there's another idea....johnson enlargement.
Make the pipe bigger.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgI2dsJN-Ng

All kidding aside, I just Googled up some "home remedies" but there really wasn't anything that looked useful.
There was one thing that stood out....possible permanent kidney damage if not addressed.
http://www.home-remedies-for-you.com/remedy/Kidney-Stones.html

Maybe a quick trip to the SWMC ER ?

good news!!! just had my 1st drop to the floor... yes hurts like hell! i'll rate the discomfort a 7 on my chart. my youngest son just stared at my halibut on the deck impersonation. after i stopped flopping around he asked if he could play on the playstation? cripes!

Drink all the water you can handle and jump around, I swear it works miracles az a home remedy get that fukker out!!

Brewer,

Y'er lucky yer kid didn't harpoon ya' while ya' were layin' on the deck floppin' like a 'butt.

One last time Brewer, Dilaudid and Flow Max....the winning combo for passing stones.
Send yourself into the twilight zone with the DIlaudid while the Flow Max opens up your pipes.

You of all people know the rulz Brewer: Pic.'s or it didn't happen

Another idea....
Get the kids involved and have them decorate you like a pinata.
Then have them whack the sh!t out of you....
Start with Nerf bats, then fists -> rubber hoses -> broomsticks -> and then chunks of rebar if necessary.
The kids will love it.

Should help pass the stone.

i'm drinking alot of water and following bait dunker's advice... hoping all over the place. the discomfort is much lower now... is this where i need to start pushing with my knees in the air? i forgot to keep count of each duration of each attack.

i still need to make it work today.

what does these stone look like anyways?

You really must be hurting

Just keep jumping until the pain subsides. Keep drinking water, and when the pain starts to increase, start jumping again. Gravity and water are your friends.

When the stone comes out it will look like a small piece of gravel, nothing special even though it feels like a shards of glass

jumping around like a mutherdunker at the moment! spilling keystone all over the livingroom...thank you bd.

A closeup of that piece of gravel showws some spikes. Women that have birthed children and also have had a stone prefer childbirth.

You ever see footage of cows being born? I'd imagine it's something like that...

Can't add much to this discussion, Brewer, since I've never had a kidney stone of my own. Once, a student of mine brought his mother's kidney stones into the classroom for a little "show and tell" action. My principal was a "born again" rockhounder, complete with homemade bolo ties and massive stone and silver belt buckles. He had a standing offer to identify any rocks we would bring to him, so I took the kidney stones to him...just to see how good he was. He hemmed and hawed, held them up to the light, mumbled something about greenstones, and after a contemplative moment asked, "Where'd they come from?" Lucky for me, he had a good sense of humor.

Here's some music to help get you/your stone moving. It'll sound pretty good after the tenth or twelveth Keystone. Have a safe passage!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtMPlY3duz4&feature=related

Wow ...Sounds like it's getting very close to a happy ending to this thread..

Hey Bait Dunker.....while I was repying to your post about Marsh it got deleted....not sure if a mod did it or you did it. So I'll cut n paste on the reply before yours....


I'm not even a big Marsha fan and yet with that last comment you just went on ignor for me. I only have two people on ignor.....Irie and you.
Blades would be on it but he doesn't post anymore.
Go [censored] yourself.

Marsha I don't have any personal hate for ya......you just like to argue and I don't. Your convos with Todd and KK make me wince.

I find myself checking on this thread several times a day. Brewer, pass that stone so I can get my life back!

P.S.

Hope it don't hurt too much

i called doctor rick, took him up on his free advice. he said to see a real doctor by thursday if i don't drop the stone. he also advised i see a therapist too. huh?

Just had a Tricerahops Double IPA from Ninkasi Brewing Company.
Pretty good stuff.
If you make it I'll buy you one.

Brewer, Aren't you glad you have friends like us with these great suggestions?

Cows being born combined with Rosemary's Baby!

Brewer,
You do know that I am a veterinarian, right?
















I crack me up.

Damn, Brewer....go get numbed out...it's probably that missing 5000A pawl you've been looking for.

Brewer probably needs the therapist more than medical help with his stone, but that's a whole 'nuther story. Keep on keepin' on Brewer!

Brewer must still have the hops cause he ain't returned my calls....

Hop bro hop...

Best thread of 2011, even at Brewers expense. Hope those bastards aren't hereditary

Get well Brewer.

Mf

IPA -> Hops -> Hmmm.....
Could be industrial.

I'm hurt.

I never post anything negative, and am a pillar of kindness and optimism on this otherwise insensitive and callous BBS.

You're OK in my book Irie.

Mf

Any guesses when Brewer finally gives birth? I'm guessin 9:12 pm tomorrow (Wed) which would also be 2112 pm. Git'r done

From this statement, I have properly diagnosed your problem! It is not a kidney stone at all. Your wife is setting her alarm and waking up at 3 am and kicking you in the kidneys every night for being a drunken asshole to her! Just sayin'....

well i'm trying to get in to see my doc. i've drank enough water to set a new personal high water mark. i'm really doudting this is really a KS. still very painfull but no severe pain way lower in the plumbing area. i'm also noticing alot of bruising too! steve e you might be onto something.

A stone isn't constant pain---- knocks you to the floor when it moves and mellows out some when it's planning it's next attack.

How's this for a coinky-dink: Sol just stopped by and announced he had a CAT scan showing a 6.4 mm diameter stone trying to head down his 3 mm ID piss tube

And it's still "hangin out"

The original Sol on the Duc....different guy. You came to the party late Hank. Sol was pure entertainment.
And a good guy.

Still listed as 5th in the top posters list and hasn't posted in maybe 1 1/2 years.

Looks like I didn't miss the birth. We need to figure out a name. Since it will be an asexual lump I vote to name it Bait Dunker.

This is good on two counts....

1. We are seeking professional help.

2. Having a new, personal high water mark will allow you greater access on your favorite streams
Be sure to have this tattooed and notarized.

+15

two things here-

lady gaga has a bigger penis than any of us

brewer is falling down drunk all the time, so pain is not an issue for him. Got $13.99 seagrams 7 down here in the 1.75l bottle - feeling the pain now?

headed to the doc shortly...

with a new high water mark was made i had to check the personal archives on the old personal high water mark. goes back to dec. of 96.

discomfort has not moved. so i'm wondering now what the problem is.

I bet it's just gas...

nobody has thrown around the gay card lately.
Maybe it's a gerbil?
Sorry Brewer!

dammit STAM, ya made me google lemmiwinks......catchy tune

OK, I think I just want to remain naive and not know anything about this.

Brewer you doing ok? Kidney stones can cause real problems. My sister has had to have 2 transplants. I would suggest you go deal.

Got word from Brewer. It's not KS's, the Doc doesn't know what's wrong. I'm sure he'll add more.

Get well Bro.

Mf

okay the KSs test was negatory. good news. these showed no evidence of KSs of any kind. she did show me something very interesting. she said, see these lines starting your spinal column? these are all the high water marks since your teens. she explained that water marks do not begin to appear in preteen children. this i did not know. i was fascinated! she said that in recently as ten yrs back there has been alot of high water marks. think about it, yes we've had several large floods.

she noticed that my inerds seemed shaken, she said to me "have you been hopping around trying to get the kidney stones to drop?" i said just a little. doc says thats the stupidest theory ever, or anyone could do!!! thanks BD. at this point i kept very quite about the brewer beer theory.

also there was no evidence of a gerbil either. SS your an ass!

so i seem to be free of KSs. i left with a jar of oxycodone though... thats a score.

still have the same terrable pain in my side.

any other theorys?

still have the same terrable pain in my side.


Left side?

Backside.

and my ass looks huge in these waders!

YAY!

Need more info for a proper hillbilly diagnosis.
Which side ?.....upper or lower ?.

Gall bladder (stones)....with the limited info, my money's on this one.
Appendicitis
Liver (and onions)

Anyone tired of hearing about these stones yet? Holy crap, I know that I have had my limit! Brewer, move onto a new diagnosis... I've perused through all of your test results, and they all exhibit prime physical health; healthy as a horse, which Dr. Rick will appreciate.

I hope you get well soon.

~THE PANTS

The Pants has spoken---

DAMMIT! the wife hacked into my matrix and posted...that chaps my hide! oh she thinks she's real funny.

i'm sorry but i failed to mention that xrays were taken in my post from last night. thats what showed the high water marks.

anyways i'm poppin the Oxys and feelen abit better.

I already told you it wasn't kidney stones!! You need to put in a Nanny Cam in the bedroom and catch her in the act!

yea i totally agree with you SE. i shouldn't really be surprised if she really is giving full kicks in the lower back.

my exwife stabbed me in the hand once with a pair scizzors once... true story.

may come as abit of a surprise to many but i'm not that easy to get along with.

Is that because she missed your neck?

I think he had his hand on his package at the time...

Fish on...

Todd

i'm not joking i got shived between my middle and index knuckles. she had some very sharp beauticians scizzors the went in very deep. it was in self defense i got shived. it's actually a very good story. i'll it sometime.

Hank, tell the Dog in the Hot car release.

Now the dirts commin out..gonna need two bags of popcorn for this session..Funny stuff all around!!

Stop it!

Haven't been on the puter lately, but damn this is funny!

So? Are ya' dead?

well almost but, it's taking forever!

true story, 2 weekends back we were driving just past the bonni dam. there's a small injun outpost to the right. they sell smokesalmon, at least it says on a piece of plywood spray painted in black. well there was a another chunk of scrap plywood next to the smokesalmon one. saying injun faith healer today. [censored] i thought what the hell. pulled into the outpost and inquired about the "doctor". leon broken feathers pointed us over to a sweat lodge. seemed inocent enough. wife and kids stayed in the van. i found myself soon inside the tight sweathouse. expecting to see edgar. after about an hour of seeing doctor dog spawner i was not only very buzzed but the kidney stone pain was finally gone! i took a final hit off the bottle of firewater and paid the doctor. been feeling great ever since.

Glad to hear a good ending to the story, Brewer.

I like that kind of powerful medicine!

You talk about anti-climatic! What a let down. (really glad you are feeling better, Brewski)

yes a total let is right. was looking forward the the entire drama of being doubled overin pecker pain! wreathing in agony screaming qoutes of tourettes guy. so yes very much a "anti-climatic" let down.

however never claimed to have them, just thought i did. this thread was great too.

still thinking about sharing my story of the exwife shiving brewer in the shower.

"after about an hour of seeing doctor dog spawner i was not only very buzzed but the kidney stone pain was finally gone! i took a final hit off the bottle of firewater and paid the doctor. been feeling great ever since."

Who'd have thunk a thorough prostate exam would clear a stone.

Damn....a prostate exam in the sweat lodge with Dr. Feelgood

Mf