#653253 - 01/12/11 04:40 AM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
[Re: Dogfish]
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River Nutrients
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One thing that never gets addressed in these situations is how we deal with mental illnesses in this country. W. Virginia, Ft Hood, Tucson all the same people.
Mental illnesses are easy to diagnose but require expensive LONG term care. Our health system seems to be built to extract as much money out of people during their last year of so of life while totally ignoring young people with long term health issue's. We'd rather throw them out in the streets for society to deal with. And I don't see this getting any better.
As for political fallouts hopefully people just take a deep breath and realize that Government cannot keep us safe. The above tragedies are simply the cost of a free people. Be it terrorists, foreign and domestic, or whackjobs until they show themselves there is not much we can do. It's how we act after the act that determines our collective fate!
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#653254 - 01/12/11 04:49 AM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
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River Nutrients
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I'll be that guy, with more training than the guy whose integrity you are trying to impune, that will be running towards the gunfire. Hopefully I will have a few other folks I know here who also have proper training on my side.
I used to like listening to the Brain Suits show. He has a couple of life rules. #1. Bring a gun to a gun fight. #2. Bring friends with guns to a gun fight. I purchased my first CWP after Columbine when I realized I walked my dog everyday past two schools. Since then I've only been "spotted" twice. Once by an undercover Secret Service agent, "If I see you here Thursday you will leave that gun at home," and once by an ATF agent, "So ah what you carrying there son." Both where very cool and respectful but damn I was surprised at how easily they spotted it!
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#653270 - 01/12/11 11:01 AM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
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Registered: 11/01/06
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Sad that Pols never let these things pass by without some new F-ing restriction on our lives. Never waste a crisis you pukes. Dont we have a viable third party yet.
Edited by docspud (01/12/11 02:00 PM)
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#653315 - 01/12/11 02:20 PM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
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This could be a good argument for advocating legal concealed carry. Do you EVER get it right? AZ is one of a few states that allow concealed carry W/O a permit. Yes, I fully realize that Mr. Rocket scientist. Did I say it was illegal in Arizona? Many believe this type of event is the exact reason for the advocacy of concealed carry in a legal manor. The man near the event who was carrying said he couldn't shoot because he couldn't do so safely according to the news story I saw. Maybe someone with a different line of sight could have had different results. Do you realize what kind of jack-ass you are? You obviously do not think things through before you post.
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#653319 - 01/12/11 02:34 PM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
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Since then I've only been "spotted" twice. Once by an undercover Secret Service agent, "If I see you here Thursday you will leave that gun at home," and once by an ATF agent, "So ah what you carrying there son." Both where very cool and respectful but damn I was surprised at how easily they spotted it! That neon green fanny pack is usually a dead give-away.
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#653320 - 01/12/11 02:40 PM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
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#653332 - 01/12/11 03:16 PM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
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April Fool
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This could be a good argument for advocating legal concealed carry. Do you EVER get it right? AZ is one of a few states that allow concealed carry W/O a permit. Dave, this is the same creep that thinks torturing Dogs is no big deal. This is the type of POS that we might read about in the news...Get help Baithumper.
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#653337 - 01/12/11 03:25 PM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
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Village Idiot
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Vick was convicted and went to prison, WTF more do you want from the guy? He killed dogs not kids, yes it's screwed up, but a little perspective could go a long way.
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#653343 - 01/12/11 03:32 PM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
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April Fool
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This is what you wrote:
Vick killed dogs, BFD! I'm glad the seahogs won, but don't see them beating the Bears.
Now it's fuked up? which is it?
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#653382 - 01/12/11 05:56 PM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
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Village Idiot
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Yes it was fuked up, he killed dogs, Is it really that big a deal? He went to prison and paid fines. You rooted for the ducks even though one of their players choked his girlfriend. Kill dogs or choke/strangle a human being, which is really worse? A little perspective goes a long ways.
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#653384 - 01/12/11 06:01 PM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
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#653386 - 01/12/11 06:06 PM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
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You make killing dogs seem worse.
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#653390 - 01/12/11 06:43 PM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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I didn't root for the Ducks.
Fish on...
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#653417 - 01/12/11 09:03 PM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
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Returning Adult
Registered: 12/12/09
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Loc: Whatcom County
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We have a GOP House, so Im guessing their fundraising powerhouse over at The NRA won't let them ban hi-cap mags or really do anything that might piss off their buddies at Springfield, S&W, or Colt.
. According to Congresswoman Carolyn McCarthy( bitch from NY) we also have a pro-gun Senate, even though it is Democrat controled. So we might be OK, we will see just how fast these get pushed .
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#653420 - 01/12/11 09:08 PM
Re: Ramifications from AZ shoot-up?
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Dick Nipples
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So we might be OK, we will see just how fast these get pushed .
When you say "we", realize that many people don't feel like they're part of that "we"... Fish on... Todd
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