#658262 - 01/28/11 10:36 AM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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Remember when I said I didn't really think bait humper was a dickhead?
Well, I lied.
Here's the thing, bait humper. Nobody gives a fark what you think other than you. Go ahead and object, whine, snivel, and piss your pants. It's not going to change anything, except to let everyone know what a pathetic sad-sack you are.
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#658265 - 01/28/11 10:40 AM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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Village Idiot
Registered: 12/06/09
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So what are you going to do with those who can't get a job in this economy, if no more funding for training is available and they've exhausted their benefits? We have to cut them off at some point, do you want to support them forever? Oh wait, you don't even have a job, you're not supporting anyone. Once people know their benefit is coming to an end, it becomes a very motivating factor, suddenly jobs that they passed up seem desirable.
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#658269 - 01/28/11 10:50 AM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 06/03/06
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Loc: Tacoma
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Hank, Growing up I had a freind whose father worked for the US government in Vietnam. As a result, his father was targeted and assinated. His mother than married an american citizen and the group moved to the US. After a few years, the couple divorced. His mother never spoke english, and the Husband had never adopted the children. I thinks that's why they never heard from him or ever got a penny. Should we have sent them back to Vietnam because his mother didn't learn english quick enough.
Close to the same thing happened to my brother-in-law. In his case his GI father died so they got a little SSN but never enough to survive. His mother also spoke a little english, but not enough to really get by.
Had other freinds that were refugees from camodia. They too got aid for a couple of years until they were able to get established.
My understanding is that most of these people would have faced instant death if they were sent back to their country of origin.
One thing for certain, none of these kids from these non-english (little english) speaking parents have ever taken a penny once they grew up. Also should point out that the parents worked, just didn't always make eonough to cover all the costs at first.
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#658270 - 01/28/11 10:50 AM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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Village Idiot
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Nobody gives a fark what you think other than you.
Remember the 2010 elections? Many Americans feel like I do, not saying they all agree 100%, but more and more are by the day. As people find themselves tested by the economy, the more they are outraged supporting druggies on welfare, illegal aliens etc. If it makes me a dickhead to want to see my taxes spent wisely, then so be it.
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#658285 - 01/28/11 11:37 AM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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Welfare - financial or other assistance to an individual or family from a city, state, or national government.
I'll fudge a bit for simplicity.
Person A: Earns $1 mil a year Debt free and no deductions pays $250k in taxes
Person B: Earns $1 mil a year Property tax and interest on primary residence -$20,000 Property tax and interest on secondary residence -$20,000 Interest on $1 mil yacht -$10,000 pays $200K in taxes And he has two million dollar homes and a yacht. WELFARE by choice.
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#658293 - 01/28/11 12:00 PM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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River Nutrients
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The big question is how did a drug addicted convict get 50% custody of his children?
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#658306 - 01/28/11 12:55 PM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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Hippie
Registered: 01/31/02
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Loc: B'ham
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Just FYI, more people in the world speak English than any other language. Dumb ass.
English is the "standard" language in America, although it is not the official language yet. Imagine all the money we could save in printing costs alone. Bait Dunker, just stop. You are completely clowning yourself at this point. You live in a tiny world. Can you say "dumb ass" in Mandarin too? Language Approx. number of speakers: 1. Chinese (Mandarin) 1,213,000,000 2. Spanish 329,000,000 3. English 328,000,000 4. Arabic 221,000,000
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#658326 - 01/28/11 02:11 PM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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Poon it! Poon it! Poon it!
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Person B: Earns $1 mil a year Property tax and interest on primary residence -$20,000 Property tax and interest on secondary residence -$20,000
I thought Stlhead was in error here - that you couldn't deduct Mortgage Interest on a secondary residence, but lo and behold he's RIGHT. Why in the world is this true? More welfare for the rich I guess... Since everyone is all excited about "means testing" the poor now, maybe we should be "means testing" all the rich guys too... The mortgage interest deduction was intended to spur home ownership, but clearly folks with the "means" (like the example above) shouldn't be getting this housing stimulus, should they? (clarity for those who get confused easily -- I'm *not* really arguing for the repeal of these deductions nor am I arguing for means/drug testing of all wanting to take these deductions... Just wondering why BD, et al, seem so fired up about making the poor prove their worth/need, yet are perfectly happy letting all the rich/white/homeowning people skate)
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#658338 - 01/28/11 03:00 PM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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Hippie
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Anyone born in this country should have the full rights and priveleges of an American citizen but that should be limited to those whose parents are here legally. Classic Hank writing/arguing style. So why even type, "Anyone born in the country should have the full rights and privelges of an American citizen" when you go and qualify it after-the-fact?
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#658339 - 01/28/11 03:02 PM
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Don't casinos have cheap buffets?
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#658346 - 01/28/11 03:21 PM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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Village Idiot
Registered: 12/06/09
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Bait Dunker, just stop. You are completely clowning yourself at this point. You live in a tiny world. Can you say "dumb ass" in Mandarin too?
Language Approx. number of speakers: 1. Chinese (Mandarin) 1,213,000,000 2. Spanish 329,000,000 3. English 328,000,000 4. Arabic 221,000,000
Thanks for pointing out my error. You have listed native speakers. I should have said English was spoken in more countries than any other language. English is only slightly behind Chinese. Total Speakers 1. Chinese (1.5 billion) 2. English (1+ billion) 3. Spanish (500 million) 4. Hindustani (460 million) http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_most_common_language_in_the_world
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#658367 - 01/28/11 04:13 PM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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I should have said nothing Typo fixed.
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#658368 - 01/28/11 04:22 PM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 10/09/09
Posts: 182
Loc: Coast Range OR.
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Thought this thread would die
But now KK is fired up and it's great entertainment.
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#658377 - 01/28/11 04:52 PM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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Village Idiot
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Coogs gotta have something to get fired up over ... Might as well be drugs and welfare I'm pretty sure those are majors there.
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#658449 - 01/28/11 11:15 PM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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So because welfare cheats only cost us millions instead of billions we shouldnt worry about it?
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#658453 - 01/28/11 11:27 PM
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Baitdunker & Mr. Hankster make a formidable team, no doubt.
Mf
Edited by Magicfly (01/28/11 11:32 PM)
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#658455 - 01/28/11 11:31 PM
Re: Requiring drug tests for welfare and unemployment?
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River Nutrients
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And so does kk & Marsha.....And so does Marsha & kk. Mf
Edited by Magicfly (01/28/11 11:33 PM)
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