#661493 - 02/08/11 09:54 PM
Re: Taxes
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At a 10% flat tax rate, he'd be paying $1,850 per year. That "rich" guy would be paying $1,850,000. That's not fair... I like that a guy making $18,500, which doesn't even register on the tax table, is complaining that "rich guys" aren't paying their share. Classic.
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#661521 - 02/08/11 10:37 PM
Re: Taxes
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Poodle Smolt
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At a 10% flat tax rate, he'd be paying $1,850 per year. That "rich" guy would be paying $1,850,000. That's not fair... I like that a guy making $18,500, which doesn't even register on the tax table, is complaining that "rich guys" aren't paying their share. Classic. People make their own future. Educate yourself and get a better job. Don't expect me, or others like me, to do the heavy lifting.
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#661534 - 02/08/11 10:50 PM
Re: Taxes
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What's Truck day?
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#661541 - 02/08/11 11:03 PM
Re: Taxes
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oic.
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#661622 - 02/09/11 02:37 AM
Re: Taxes
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Poodle Smolt
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Loc: McCleary, WA
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I make $18.5k a year. I shouldn't have to pay the same rate in taxes as someone who makes $18.5 million a year. Screw the flat tax. Just got done with my taxes. Interesting figures. I paid more tax last year than you earned, paid more mortgage interest than you earned, and I contributed more to the economic viability of the community where I live (not including what I do in my day job, just solely income) than your earned last year. Heck, I spent 35% of what you made last year starting my chicken farm with buildings and supplies. We aren't rich by any means, but it would be nice to see you start doing your share and contributing, rather than slacking off and complaining about the tax rate of folks who are alive the same number of hours you were last year, yet were able to be 20x's, or 1,000x's more productive than you were. Buck up sailor, get to work, stop smoking dope, and turn off the X-box.
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#661651 - 02/09/11 10:42 AM
Re: Taxes
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Spawner
Registered: 05/27/08
Posts: 652
Loc: Bellingham/Socialistic Idaho
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I make $18.5k a year. I shouldn't have to pay the same rate in taxes as someone who makes $18.5 million a year. Screw the flat tax. Just got done with my taxes. Interesting figures. I paid more tax last year than you earned, paid more mortgage interest than you earned, and I contributed more to the economic viability of the community where I live (not including what I do in my day job, just solely income) than your earned last year. Heck, I spent 35% of what you made last year starting my chicken farm with buildings and supplies. We aren't rich by any means, but it would be nice to see you start doing your share and contributing, rather than slacking off and complaining about the tax rate of folks who are alive the same number of hours you were last year, yet were able to be 20x's, or 1,000x's more productive than you were. Buck up sailor, get to work, stop smoking dope, and turn off the X-box. I almost spat coffee all over my computer while reading this. It's laughable at best. I will bet my life that right now I work more hours per week than you do. When was the last time you worked an 19 hour day out in the snow? I can also guarantee that when you were my age, you were probably a piece of schit mooching off of your parents. So please, get off you high horse. I'm happy where I am. I don't make anything, but you got to start a career somewhere. It's my choice to be where I am. I could be making a lot more money elsewhere, but I don't want to be anywhere else at this juncture in my life. I'm just so sick a tired of hearing you old farts bitch and moan about paying taxes when you have a larger income than 99% of the world's population. Cry me a fukin' river. Seriously. No one gives a fuk that you have to pay taxes except you and other Glenn Beck followers. And Hank -- go fuk your self
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#661660 - 02/09/11 11:09 AM
Re: Taxes
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 11/01/06
Posts: 1557
Loc: Silverdale Wa
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McMoron,
I think the point was to have you quit bitching about "others not paying enough" when you "pay none".
A flat tax is a fair tax. Everyone pays same share but no deductions, no breaks(that would be the most important part). You make 10K at 10% you pay 1K. Your share. Someone makes 100K they pay 10K. Same %, different amount of money. No need for the IRS either. Saves money.
The "tax them not me crap" and pitting one class against another is then gone as well. But what would our pols have to bitch about. Who could they say is holding you back? Keeping you down. What would drive you to the voting booth? Will never happen for that reason. Besides it is to simple and makes to much sense for our govern to use it.
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#661665 - 02/09/11 11:14 AM
Re: Taxes
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 07/06/09
Posts: 1138
Loc: MA13
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I make $18.5k a year. I shouldn't have to pay the same rate in taxes as someone who makes $18.5 million a year. Screw the flat tax. Just got done with my taxes. Interesting figures. I paid more tax last year than you earned, paid more mortgage interest than you earned, and I contributed more to the economic viability of the community where I live (not including what I do in my day job, just solely income) than your earned last year. Heck, I spent 35% of what you made last year starting my chicken farm with buildings and supplies. We aren't rich by any means, but it would be nice to see you start doing your share and contributing, rather than slacking off and complaining about the tax rate of folks who are alive the same number of hours you were last year, yet were able to be 20x's, or 1,000x's more productive than you were. Buck up sailor, get to work, stop smoking dope, and turn off the X-box. I almost spat coffee all over my computer while reading this. It's laughable at best. I will bet my life that right now I work more hours per week than you do. When was the last time you worked an 19 hour day out in the snow? I can also guarantee that when you were my age, you were probably a piece of schit mooching off of your parents. So please, get off you high horse. I'm happy where I am. I don't make anything, but you got to start a career somewhere. It's my choice to be where I am. I could be making a lot more money elsewhere, but I don't want to be anywhere else at this juncture in my life. I'm just so sick a tired of hearing you old farts bitch and moan about paying taxes when you have a larger income than 99% of the world's population. Cry me a fukin' river. Seriously. No one gives a fuk that you have to pay taxes except you and other Glenn Beck followers. And Hank -- go fuk your self Well, someone is gonna have to pay the taxes because you have made the choice not too. I applaud you making your career choice but practice what you preach. Don't wnat to hear others bitch about taxes, then help us out a little.
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#661670 - 02/09/11 11:24 AM
Re: Taxes
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Poon it! Poon it! Poon it!
Registered: 08/08/06
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Loc: Yarrow Point
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For all the popularity of a flat tax, I guess I'm still a bit of a bleeding heart liberal. My income is certainly up from when I was younger and raising a family and I'm willing to take the hit of the graduated income tax to lessen the tax burden on the poor. I've been poor. It ain't fun.
Salmo... You really should read 5 minutes worth on Huckabee's "Fair Tax" stuff. It's the best balance I've seen: www.fairtax.org Even your bleeding heart may agree.
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#661679 - 02/09/11 11:37 AM
Re: Taxes
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Poodle Smolt
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Had a job since I was 14, and only a single day unemployed since that time when I switched jobs. While putting myself through college I had two jobs.
Most recently, while holding down a regular day job, I put 4,000 hours of my own labor into building my house, working the day job, skipping lunch, heading to the property, and working most evenings until 11pm or midnight. A year and a half of 5-6 hours of sleep per day, and the rest working my ass off. I took three or four days off from this project during that whole time. That's it.
It is called work ethic, and personal responsibility McMahon.
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#661688 - 02/09/11 11:50 AM
Re: Taxes
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Registered: 10/20/10
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Loc: Seattle
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"The shot was at the most failed generation. Your generation has handed down nearly every social institution and government institution in a filed state. Hence I call yu the most failed generation. The odd thing is that because of the general arrofence of the most failed generation, you all don't even see it. ou as a group continue to act as though you have credability. Unfortunately you have money and that equals power."
Why do we have money? Apparently you are too young to have perspective along with money wisdom comes with age. We worked for it, the most innovative and smartest working generations in the history of the world were born after WWII. Almost everything that makes it easy for you to sit back and bitch was thought of and produced by your failed generation. You have been handed too much and you expect more we were handed nothing and built everything. A failed generation is one that is handed a lot and fails to advance off of what they were given. I see that happening in your generation the one I will call the "excuse generation" because that’s all I hear from it. Btw your generation’s music sucks big black donkey dik.
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#661711 - 02/09/11 12:46 PM
Re: Taxes
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Registered: 02/14/06
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Loc: Elma
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Reading this thread clarifies for me why I have specialized in flyfishing for steelhead. I clearly can not afford the type of fishing Chuck and RR do. Good for you guys. I bet your boat owners.
Go Sox, cds LOL. I'm glad my lavish fishing lifestyle helped you gain some clarity.
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#661759 - 02/09/11 02:49 PM
Re: Taxes
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Registered: 12/12/09
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Loc: Termite Country
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It's my choice to be where I am. Exactly. You made the choice so deal with the consequences. Obligating one man to subsidize the "choice" of another man is theft. Plain and simple.
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#661773 - 02/09/11 03:31 PM
Re: Taxes
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Poodle Smolt
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Loc: McCleary, WA
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I'm definitely better armed.
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#661779 - 02/09/11 04:00 PM
Re: Taxes
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Poodle Smolt
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Loc: McCleary, WA
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My boys do.
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#661782 - 02/09/11 04:11 PM
Re: Taxes
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 10/20/10
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Loc: Seattle
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First off if you are paying taxes you are making money so quit bitching about it. Hankster if you paid 35k+ in taxes and are here on the interwebz all day doing the jaknrod show count your blessings. It s blessing that there are people like Mc out there helping to make that possible. If you think they don't help and directly benefit you then you have no idea how our system works .
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