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#663417 - 02/16/11 12:15 PM No charges against Seattle officer who shot woodca
Sol Duc Offline
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I'm 95% pro L.E , but this whole shooting smelled of BAD COP. I take it he's going to be wearing the Shield again? Shooting is not justified, but no charges??? huh


http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2014235279_policeshooting16m.html


Edited by Sol Duc (02/16/11 12:18 PM)
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#663426 - 02/16/11 12:56 PM Re: No charges against Seattle officer who shot woodca [Re: Sol Duc]
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Yeah, makes you wonder if a taser would have solved the perceived problem. He seemed like a high strung hothead in the interview I saw.
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#663430 - 02/16/11 01:11 PM Re: No charges against Seattle officer who shot woodca [Re: fish4brains]
Man of logic Offline
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that guy deserves way more than a slap on the wrist. He shot the man 4 times! the guy didn't even make a move! twisted system.
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#663431 - 02/16/11 01:17 PM Re: No charges against Seattle officer who shot woodca [Re: fish4brains]
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There was a good reason why Sheriff Taylor never gave Deputy Barney Fife any bullets for his gun.


Edited by SBD (02/16/11 01:17 PM)
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#663439 - 02/16/11 01:31 PM Re: No charges against Seattle officer who shot woodca [Re: SBD]
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the blood alcohol level of the indian was 0.18, interesting little factoid, the cop proabably could smell him and took the easy way out.


Edited by HOOKUP (02/16/11 01:33 PM)

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#663440 - 02/16/11 01:38 PM Re: No charges against Seattle officer who shot woodca [Re: fish4brains]
Sol Duc Offline
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Originally Posted By: fish4brains
Yeah, makes you wonder if a taser would have solved the perceived problem. He seemed like a high strung hothead in the interview I saw.

Just the way the cop sauntered towards the wood carver, It gave me the impression he thought a lot of himself. Cops say that tasers are not used when the Perp is armed with a knife or Gun, they consider that deadly force towards them. Wood carver is minding is own business and he's almost completely deaf, doesn't hear the demands and POW! The wood carver was a full blown detox drunk that prolly weighed 90lbs with a 3" knife, might of been opened might not have been.
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#663441 - 02/16/11 01:45 PM Re: No charges against Seattle officer who shot woodca [Re: Sol Duc]
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bad enough that you have to watch out for bad guys now you have to watch out that the cops don't shoot you. seems to be a big city problem
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#663447 - 02/16/11 02:06 PM Re: No charges against Seattle officer who shot woodca [Re: larryb]
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What a joke. Hopefully the Feds charge him. Not that this should have anything to do with color but if that is the only way so be it.

Just another scared of the dark, traumatized little punk that instantly got the largest johnson in the city once a badge was placed on his chest. No one was ever going to pick on or not listen to him again. Gives all good cops bad name.

Hopefully a lesson for others like him that they better have more of a reason than a mean face and a closed knife to shoot someone multiple times.
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#663454 - 02/16/11 02:52 PM Re: No charges against Seattle officer who shot woodca [Re: docspud]
Sol Duc Offline
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Not only shooting him under those circumstances, but discharging your firearm in a very crowed area during that time of day seems to be in itself not worth the risk.

Most all Cops do a GREAT job under some serious stressfull situations and I appreciate and thank them all.
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#663455 - 02/16/11 02:55 PM Re: No charges against Seattle officer who shot woodca [Re: ]
Brant Offline
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Registered: 12/09/03
Posts: 399
Loc: Seattle
I am not surprised he was not charged with murder. The findings of the inquest indicate a prosecutor would have had a tough time proving murder. I am a bit surprised he was not charged with manslaughter in light of the inquest results. The article I read said he will probably lose his badge. Seattle Police have been losing a lot of trust with all the stuff going on recently. This won't help.

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#663456 - 02/16/11 02:56 PM Re: No charges against Seattle officer who shot woodca [Re: Sol Duc]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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Registered: 01/31/02
Posts: 4450
Loc: B'ham
Agree that the guy is a disgrace to good cops. The story seemed bad from the start and then got worse with more evidence and first-hand witness accounts. He actually just made cops' jobs harder.

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#663497 - 02/16/11 05:25 PM Re: No charges against Seattle officer who shot woodca [Re: ]
Krijack Offline
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Registered: 06/03/06
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Loc: Tacoma
A few years ago an officer around here was shot. The statement by the commanding officer says it all, "This is different, this was one of us.".

As long as they view themselves as special and different from the rest of the population, we will always have a problem.

I doubt the officer meant to kill him for nothing, but rather just over reacted. I remember an officer coming to my school saying he had never drawn a gun in 30 years. Now they pull them in almost every circumstance. If the department pulls a gun a 20,000 times a year, there is a good chance someone will make a mistake. Thats human. Unf

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#663515 - 02/16/11 06:41 PM Re: No charges against Seattle officer who shot woodca [Re: Krijack]
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I I hope no one ever gives you a gun. It may have been an overeaction when the first bullet went off, but the last three were more than basic human nature. And what if he didn't shoot? at most he would have been mildly cut.

There's a big difference between people who want to be in that position of power, and people who should be. Thats the problem.

If he didn't have a badge and did the same thing, he'd be in fuckn prison.
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#663540 - 02/16/11 07:42 PM Re: No charges against Seattle officer who shot woodca [Re: Man of logic]
Irie Offline
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Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 4317
Loc: South Sound
I watched the video.

The time between "Drop Your Weapon!!" and "BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM!"

was about .0001 seconds. --And all the shots were in his back.

Pretty easy call for any logical person to conclude that this cop was some trigger-happy POS looking for any excuse to plug some poor bastard.

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#663541 - 02/16/11 07:45 PM Re: No charges against Seattle officer who shot woodca [Re: Irie]
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Murder..plain and simple. Unfortunately the law rarely applies to the other side of the "thin blue line".
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#663583 - 02/16/11 09:28 PM Re: No charges against Seattle officer who shot woodca [Re: ]
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Registered: 05/27/08
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Loc: Bellingham/Socialistic Idaho
Originally Posted By: FishPrince
He is not a disgrace to good cops. He is a typical cop.


Bingo. It's no secret that cops like to kill. If a cop kills a "criminal" they are heroes. If an ordinary man kills a cop, they have essentially killed a god based up media emotion and law.

Cops started being held on the same level as saints around the start of the war on drugs if it helps to make any sense to anyone.

Fuk the police. To serve and protect my ass.

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#663643 - 02/16/11 10:56 PM Re: No charges against Seattle officer who shot woodca [Re: ]
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Registered: 03/01/03
Posts: 1244
Loc: Snohomish County
Travesty for sure...not only did a half deaf, fully drunk, peaceful geriatric carrying a pocket knife get killed, but it basically gave precedent to allow Seattle cops the right to kill anybody they see fit. I mean for fuk sake, if there were ever a case to use non-violent force, this was it.

Strange, isn't it, that just last year we felt concerned/sorry for LE for getting mowed down in coffee shops?

Ike

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#663655 - 02/16/11 11:19 PM Re: No charges against Seattle officer who shot woodca [Re: Ikissmykiss]
Sol Duc Offline
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The latest In Vouge for shooting Perps is... "He was trying to run me over in his car" that one's getting a little old. frown
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#663668 - 02/16/11 11:40 PM Re: No charges against Seattle officer who shot woodca [Re: ]
Sol Duc Offline
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Cops in this town have been shooting the mentally ill lately. The last one was some poor wacko in a wheelchair. He did use the knife he had and stabbed one of the cops.


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/01/20/BAQR1HBLTV.DTL

Sounds like you're ok...... :>)
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#663676 - 02/17/11 12:05 AM Re: No charges against Seattle officer who shot woodca [Re: Sol Duc]
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What did you expect? They shot a guy up in Everett 8 times in the back while he was sitting in his car, drunk but no real threat. The other cop said he heard the shooter say, Thats enough of this!

Bang,Bang,Bang,Bang,Bang,Bang,Bang,Bang!

Still an Everett cop, pretty sad.


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